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SpanishFry
Platinum Member
right, because i was supposed to KNOW where YOU work
loup garou
Lifer
Why not? You THOUGHT you KNEW what kind of computer he was using. :roll:
SpanishFry
Platinum Member
notice the question mark on my statement. please go look up "guess" and "know". i don't feel like linking for you.
ultimatebob
Lifer
Bah... Notes 7 takes about 10 seconds to load on my computer, which is even quicker than Adobe Acrobat.
Platypus
Lifer
I'll add a bit more to the thread instead of expressing my distaste for the product 😛
As a mail client I would have to once again agree that the UI is absolutely atrocious, lacks certain 'common-sense' features that you would think would be in a mail client and has random quirks that make its usage kind of cumbersome. There are lots of really random bugs in 6.5 as far as the calendar goes and if people change their date on a meeting, sometimes it won't update properly, stuff like this.
This being said, its DB capabilities and programming with LotusScript really unlock this product's use, domino(server and messanger client), etc make up for these issues at least a little bit. It's very functional in the environment I work in and I pretty much use it constantly for scheduling meetings, organizing projects, having document repositories and things like this. I've worked in places with both Exchange and Lotus and while the ease of use of Outlook (though it's a wretched program) made tasks quicker for me in some cases, Notes is still better in my opinion.
As a mail client I would have to once again agree that the UI is absolutely atrocious, lacks certain 'common-sense' features that you would think would be in a mail client and has random quirks that make its usage kind of cumbersome. There are lots of really random bugs in 6.5 as far as the calendar goes and if people change their date on a meeting, sometimes it won't update properly, stuff like this.
This being said, its DB capabilities and programming with LotusScript really unlock this product's use, domino(server and messanger client), etc make up for these issues at least a little bit. It's very functional in the environment I work in and I pretty much use it constantly for scheduling meetings, organizing projects, having document repositories and things like this. I've worked in places with both Exchange and Lotus and while the ease of use of Outlook (though it's a wretched program) made tasks quicker for me in some cases, Notes is still better in my opinion.
chuckywang
Lifer
🙂
SpanishFry
Platinum Member
Seriously, if you're having this many problems talk to your admin.
We have a dedicated Notes admin who knows it inside and out, and nobody (~40 users) has a problem with Notes. Primary use of it in our office is as an email client/workflow app.
As someone else noted, Notes takes less than 10 seconds to open on my laptop.
Kelemvor
Lifer
We have Notes at work and everyone hates it It's such a piece of horse's ass I don't know why any company uses it. We're spposed to be upgrading to Noets 7 which hopefully will at least be usable. But I would kill to be able to go back to Outlook to at least get some decent functionality.
SpanishFry
Platinum Member
ummm...ok 😕
My new job uses Lotus Notes. I use it as an email client, the calendar, and other things. I have had zero problems with it as an email client in the past few months. It's different from outlook but still very easy to understand. I don't recall ever being confused. I also don't have long load times either. In fact, it looks to be very powerful and I would rather use it than outlook.
My personal experience is that LNotes is the best groupware / workflow app out there right now. It works very well for collaborative efforts, scheduling meetings, joint "to do" lists, calendars, sharing databases etc etc.
Outlook is simply an email client, and a horrible one at that. If you just want an email client, Eudora is far superior to outlook, and isn't a virus magnet like outlook.
Also, the notes sametime client (built into lotus notes) provides instant messaging without having to "phone home". Most major corporations are not going to allow desktop apps to connect directly to some server out on the internet, so Yahoo/AOL/MSN etc messengers don't work. The sametime client works inside the firewall to allow the employees to communicate without allowing connections to those outside the company.
Outlook is simply an email client, and a horrible one at that. If you just want an email client, Eudora is far superior to outlook, and isn't a virus magnet like outlook.
Also, the notes sametime client (built into lotus notes) provides instant messaging without having to "phone home". Most major corporations are not going to allow desktop apps to connect directly to some server out on the internet, so Yahoo/AOL/MSN etc messengers don't work. The sametime client works inside the firewall to allow the employees to communicate without allowing connections to those outside the company.
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