FYI: BFG **not** honoring some warranties at this time.

[tcsenter]

That's not what I meant. BFG had power supplies amongst other things as well.

Which was an epic failure. BFG wrapped up its PSU business a long time ago.

 

[nitromullet]

That's not what I meant. BFG had power supplies amongst other things as well. EVGA's GPU business is exclusively NV based just like BFG. When a company lays all the blame for their troubles at the doorstep of an outside supplier you can be guaranteed that's not the whole story.

Yes, but that was sort of the point. EVGA has a successful Intel chipset motherboard program, which has nothing to do with NVIDIA. During the last holiday season when NV was AWOL, EVGA was still pushing motherboards.

They also had an exclusive 4-way SLI GTX 285 (GTX 285 Classified), and IIRC they promised all purchasers of this card first dibs on Fermi when it came out. Additionally, EVGA has unmatched customer service in my experience. Their service and support is simply in another league than any other video card or motherboard manufacturer.

 

[bryanW1995]

yeah right. There are (rare) situations where the local AG would be a good resource, but not this one. Company goes bankrupt, I move on.

Are we as a society are going to just "contact our local authorities" every time something goes wrong in our lives, especially something as insignificant as a video card? How about man up and work a few more hours and get another video card?.. and use the time you save by not calling the ag towards the family? Americans are unrealistically demanding, and when something goes wrong, first thing comes to mind is "sue them" or "call the police". Kinda ironic that I hear so many Americans hate the lawyers instead of embracing them. But I digress.

I'm going to complain to the AG. you just really really hurt my feelings!!


@leyawiin: I'm seriously looking at an evga mobo even though I could very well end up using SI this round. they aren't exclusively nvidia mobos, they happen to be kickass OC'ers as well and can do xfire too.

 

[3DVagabond]

If a company goes bankrupt and you feel they owe you something (warranty claim, money, etc...) you file with the bankruptcy court and get paid out from the liquidated assets. Typically pennies on the dollar, like every other debtor the company had.

Some company's warranties are underwritten by an insurance company. Read your warranty paperwork and see if it is.

 

[james1701]

Best Buy was a big seller of BFG. I wonder who their premium line will be now?

 

[Puffnstuff]

yeah right. There are (rare) situations where the local AG would be a good resource, but not this one. Company goes bankrupt, I move on.

Are we as a society are going to just "contact our local authorities" every time something goes wrong in our lives, especially something as insignificant as a video card? How about man up and work a few more hours and get another video card?.. and use the time you save by not calling the ag towards the family? Americans are unrealistically demanding, and when something goes wrong, first thing comes to mind is "sue them" or "call the police". Kinda ironic that I hear so many Americans hate the lawyers instead of embracing them. But I digress.

In many instances when a company goes out of business their warranty is handled by a 3rd party.

 

[formulav8]

You can't compare eVga's survival to BFG. nVidia and eVga are like what Intel and Dell used to be. They are very buddy-buddy and eVga definitely gets the best margins/deals/products usually at the earliest times. Especially if there are shortages you can be sure nVidia does everything they can to get eVga what they ask for or do as much as they can to meet their demands. I wouldn't put it past nVidia to do what Intel would do with Dell by putting money in their pocket for being their closest friend.


Jason

 

[Keysplayr]

You can't compare eVga's survival to BFG. nVidia and eVga are like what Intel and Dell used to be. They are very buddy-buddy and eVga definitely gets the best margins/deals/products usually at the earliest times. Especially if there are shortages you can be sure nVidia does everything they can to get eVga what they ask for or do as much as they can to meet their demands. I wouldn't put it past nVidia to do what Intel would do with Dell by putting money in their pocket for being their closest friend.


Jason

I thought Intel did that to try to prevent Dell from offering AMD products?

 

[bryanW1995]

I think that's why he meant to say: nvidia paid evga to remain exclusive. I don't know if that happened or not, but it's pretty obvious that remaining exclusive didn't work for bfg. and it's also obvious that switch hitting DID work for xfx, at least in the short run. it wouldn't be illegal for nvidia to do this, however, since they're not a monopoly and amd clearly is happy with their suppliers.

 

[Keysplayr]

I think that's why he meant to say: nvidia paid evga to remain exclusive. I don't know if that happened or not, but it's pretty obvious that remaining exclusive didn't work for bfg. and it's also obvious that switch hitting DID work for xfx, at least in the short run. it wouldn't be illegal for nvidia to do this, however, since they're not a monopoly and amd clearly is happy with their suppliers.

Ah, I see. Sort of what AMD might do with say, Sapphire, for example. To keep them exclusive.

 

[ZimZum]

Did XFX completely switch to ATI or did they just want no part of Fermi?

 

[nyker96]

lucky that I just sold off my two bfg card in my closet, they still work but with no warranty I feel shaky keeping them now.

 

[Grooveriding]

Ah, I see. Sort of what AMD might do with say, Sapphire, for example. To keep them exclusive.

Sapphire isn't strictly exclusive, the parent company also owns Zotac, and Zotac only sells nvidia based cards.

 

[happy medium]

How many board partners does Nvidia have left? 14? I'm sure they won't miss BFG.

NVIDIA Board Partners

Albatron
ASUS
BIOSTAR
Elitegroup Computer Systems
EVGA
Foxconn
Gainward
GALAXY
GIGABYTE
InnoVISION
LEADTEK
MSI
PALIT
PNY
Point of View
SPARKLE
ZOTAC International (MCO) Limited

http://www.nvidia.co.in/page/cv_galaxy.html

 

[spittledip]

Best Buy was a big seller of BFG. I wonder who their premium line will be now?

According to that article, Best Buy dropped them. I am wondering why Best Buy dropped them..?

EDIT: oh I missed this- from the article:

But they couldn’t sell them as quickly as they had been used to because once Best Buy caught wind of BFG not being able to supply graphics cards, they dropped selling their power supply product line as well.

 

[jonnyGURU]

You guys are funny with all your speculation and stuff.

 

[Keysplayr]

Sapphire isn't strictly exclusive, the parent company also owns Zotac, and Zotac only sells nvidia based cards.

Well then substitute Sapphire with another company that only exclusively makes and sells AMD cards.

 

[bryanW1995]

amd doesn't really have anybody like evga. xfx could get there if they completely drop nvidia. I wonder if xfx didn't get fermi as punishment for offering both red and green? If they don't offer gtx 460 then it's probably safe to assume that they have been shut out by nvidia or decided on their own to go exclusively red.

 

[zokudu]

Quote from BFG Graphics Head about Fermi from several months ago (I cant remember source I grabbed it from an old post I made):

I actually wanted to sell more, but then NVIDIA can't give me GF100 chips they promised. I can't keep on selling the old stuff, because people are expecting the latest and the fastest, not the old GT2xx chips.

And then I only sell gaming cards... The margins were already tight in the GT200 days, it's even worse for GF100, basically I gain nothing by sticking our label on the cards and sell it.

Can't stand it anymore...

Also I thought XFX dropped nVidia because they were forcing partners to purchase old outdated cards if they even wanted a chance at being allowed to sell Fermi. Is XFX planning on getting back on board with nVidia with the next generation?

SA Article on it

Obviously its SA so take it with a grain of salt

 

[evolucion8]

Quote from BFG Graphics Head about Fermi from several months ago (I cant remember source I grabbed it from an old post I made):


Also I thought XFX dropped nVidia because they were forcing partners to purchase old outdated cards if they even wanted a chance at being allowed to sell Fermi. Is XFX planning on getting back on board with nVidia with the next generation?

SA Article on it

Obviously its SA so take it with a grain of salt

That's called Channel Stuffing isn't? With such petty practices, I wonder if that was the last bullet that killed BFG. So even with that, nVidia couldn't get off enough of its old inventory which eventually they had to write off, I wonder how much G92 SKU's they still having around. I always liked BFG but, they trailed behind for too much time.

 

[tcsenter]

Sapphire isn't strictly exclusive, the parent company also owns Zotac, and Zotac only sells nvidia based cards.

Subsidiaries have nothing to do with each other and are wholly separate.

 

[Rubycon]

Best Buy was a big seller of BFG. I wonder who their premium line will be now?

Their house brand?

Dynex and Socketfish?

 

[evolucion8]

Durabrand

 

[brybir]

Their house brand?

Dynex and Socketfish?

Im sure we will start seeing the Dynex Ultra Amazing Gaming Terminator Radeon 4850's anytime now, or perhaps the Super Mega Punisher Nvidia GTS 250. At $250 of course.

 

[Rubycon]

Im sure we will start seeing the Dynex Ultra Amazing Gaming Terminator Radeon 4850's anytime now, or perhaps the Super Mega Punisher Nvidia GTS 250. At $250 of course.

As long as it has the words MAX or Pro or Ultra in it (or a combination of them!). We call that Behringer fever.