FX 8350 system build

[mistercrabby]

Good morning,

Have a few hundred bucks to do an overhaul. I'd appreciate your feedback. Plan to buy the parts tomorrow and build next week or weekend.

Crab


What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Gaming. No work related apps.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

<$500

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

'Merica

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.

N/A

5. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

None Picked the FX-8350 for price/performance

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

A mix of new and used.

NEW:

Currently in Newegg Wishlist

AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX
$179.99

ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$69.99 before $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL
$82.99

Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99

OLD

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500gb SATA
DVD Burner: Asus DVD multi-recorder
GPU: GeForce GTX 560Ti 1gb Note: plan to replace as funds allow
Monitor: Dell 19"

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

Yes, within capabilities of stock cooler and mobo

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using?

1920 x 1080

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?

in the next week

 

[nsafreak]

Hate to say it but folks in this forum for the most part do not recommend AMD for CPUs when it comes to performance per dollar. GPUs are a different story as they compete pretty well against nVidia with their current pricing and performance levels but unfortunately the same is not true when it comes to CPUs. Here's what I would recommend, it runs $30 more but performs a fair deal better without overclocking, with overclocking it'll likely stretch the lead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $423.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-09 12:04 EST-0500

 

[Insert_Nickname]

None Picked the FX-8350 for price/performance

If you're dead set on an AMD setup, at least get the newer 8370(E). An i5 will do better in games...

I'll not recommend anything on the AM3+ platform for a new build. If you have an older AM3+ board, it might be worthwhile though.

GPU: GeForce GTX 560Ti 1gb Note: plan to replace as funds allow

Depending on what CPU you have already, I'd look into upgrading that before the CPU. CPU performance hasn't really improved that radically in the past years, while GPU performance has doubled and even tripled...

 

[Cerb]

If set on AMD, and going to OC, go ahead and get an OC-friendly model, and a cooler. Only with an E will the stock cooler get you far, and even then, it's a rather poor option.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320E 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $394.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-09 16:11 EST-0500

Though, I think you'd be better to just pay another $50-100 more for a Haswell (about +$50 for a stock-only i5, about +$100 for an OCable one).

 

[mistercrabby]

A friend of mine has this chip.

What do you think it would make a good gaming chip, and what should I pay for it?

I5-3470t 2.9ghz.

He doesnt know and i want to be fair.

Thanks!

 

[nsafreak]

That's any IvyBridge low therm processor, not something I would get for a gaming system.

 

[mistercrabby]

Guys, thanks for the feedback. I went back and did some more homework and conclude you've given me good advice. Much appreciated.

How about this?

1x GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-SLI LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (Model:GA-Z97X-SLI)
$128.99

1x Intel Core i5-4690 Haswell Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 BX80646I54690 (Model:BX80646I54690)
$224.99

1x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL (Model:F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL)
$76.99

$430.97
Combo Discounts: - $34.98
Combo Price: $395.99

 

[nsafreak]

The only change I'd recommend is going from an i5 4690 to a 4690k, the difference is all of $15 and you'll get an unlocked multiplier to overclock. If you don't plan on overclocking then I'd suggest going with a less expensive motherboard like an ASRock H97 Anniversary Edition board.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

The only change I'd recommend is going from an i5 4690 to a 4690k, the difference is all of $15 and you'll get an unlocked multiplier to overclock. If you don't plan on overclocking then I'd suggest going with a less expensive motherboard like an ASRock H97 Anniversary Edition board.

That would be more or less my recommendation too. The 4690K also has the Devils Canyon enhancements, so everything else being equal it should run cooler and quieter then the regular 4690, even non-OC'ed.

 

[mistercrabby]

How about one of these?

Hello, any comments on one of the following, or other?


ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI H97 Guard-Pro LGA 1150 Intel H97 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock H97 Anniversary LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $72.79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would still prefer an SLI board so i have the option later though, like the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-SLI

 

[Zorander]

If you're overclocking, the H97 boards are out. The Z87 board *might* work out of the box but if you can, get a Z97 board as that is guaranteed to work with 4690K.

There is a premium for overclocking parts. K-series CPU and suitable Z-series board will set you back about $100 over non-overclockable parts. You need to decide if overclocking will indeed be a requirement or just a 'nice to have' feature.

Edit:
If overclocking, get 4690K and Z97-based board.
If running stock, get 4690 and H97-based board.

 

[mfenn]

Would still prefer an SLI board so i have the option later though, like the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-SLI

Upgrading to SLI after the fact rarely makes sense. When you end up needing extra performance, the new generation of cards generally offers better performance with more features and less hassle than tracking down a card to pair with your old one.

This goes doubly so for cards that were midrange when they were new like the GTX 560 Ti. Those cards show higher framerate variability in multi-GPU setups due to lack of VRAM and less overall headroom.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Upgrading to SLI after the fact rarely makes sense. When you end up needing extra performance, the new generation of cards generally offers better performance with more features and less hassle than tracking down a card to pair with your old one.

Seconded.

 

[mistercrabby]

Hello everyone. I want to thank you for the kind input. Much appreciated.

Based on the feedback and additional research, here's what i went with:

1 x Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case

1 x Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K

1 x Refurbished: ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-

 

[Zorander]

1 x Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K

1 x Refurbished: ASUS Z87-A LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

You should swap the motherboard with a Z97-based one. The difference is IMO not worth the risk of a non-POST scenario (and the hassle of getting a replacement motherboard or updating BIOS using an older CPU).

 

[nsafreak]

You should swap the motherboard with a Z97-based one. The difference is IMO not worth the risk of a non-POST scenario (and the hassle of getting a replacement motherboard or updating BIOS using an older CPU).

^^ This, plus of the items that I will consider purchasing refurbished the motherboard sits at the bottom of the list.

 

[mfenn]

Agree. I would definitely not buy a refurb motherboard. Luckily, you don't have to blow the budget to get a new one. The refurb ASUS Z87-A goes for $85 on Newegg, whereas a new ASRock Z97 Pro3 is $90 AR.

 

[mistercrabby]

Thanks again for all the input!


1 x Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case

1 x Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K

1 x ASUS Z97-A LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D

 

[mfenn]

Nice choices! Can you put what prices you paid for each?

 

[mistercrabby]

All from the egg:

1 x Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case $60

1 x Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I54690K $240. trying to get a price adjustment/credit as the price on newegg shows lower now.

1 x ASUS Z97-A LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard open box $104

1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D

$82.99

Everything came in as advertised and lit up. Looking good...

 

[mfenn]

The open box mobo was a bit of a gamble, but it looks like it paid off since everything is working!

 

[dontsh00tmesanta]

I got the 8320 couldn't be happier I also have an MSI 970 gaming mobo best $90 I spent