FX-8150 - Error while folding, Prime95 errors on 4 cores. Anyone else?

[nanaki333]

Usually core errors on an AMD is a sign of a bad CPU unfortunately. You can easily see the warnings stack up in event viewer.

yeah. i'm pretty much convinced it's a bad cpu at this point in time. i just wanna see if any of the other 20 people in the world that bought this processor are having the same problems

 

[Patrese]

Some reviewers also reported problems with the 8150:

http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/amd-bulldozer-can-it-get-even-worse/

Have you guys followed this link? If what the guy says is true, damn... Bulldozer could be even worse then it seems now, and us enthusiasts are even more screwed. Intel will start charging prices of US$999 and above for Ivy Bridge processors...

 

[MisterMac]

Before everyone jums the gun on BD,

This happened during Phenom as well, on certain boards that we're "supportive" of the new socket - but kinda not really.

It's a Southbridge to CPU problem, "i think".



It could be just be this, OP your board is one of those "supposed" upgradeble boards for socket BD or an actual AM3+ ?

 

[nanaki333]

asrock 970 extreme 4 (AM3+). if you go to the cpu support list, it does not list the 8150 (it doesn't list it for any of them). but if you select the CPU from their list and look up compatible boards, it lists it, and all of the other AM3+ boards.

 

[bryanW1995]

Odd.

I have been using AMD CPU's since the K6/2 Genre and have never had one quit. (A good 20 AMD chips or so over the years)

I would RMA.

AMD doesn't exactly have a sterling track record with new releases, however, and nanaki runs folding 24/7. Maybe AMD just tested light use situations?

 

[exar333]

A bad CPU can happen to anyone. Rare, but it happens.

 

[Idontcare]

Maybe AMD just tested light use situations?

No way. Even before the TLB bug bit them they had an exhaustive verification process.

I'd lean more towards it being a mobo, psu, or ram issue. (and by mobo I include the possibility of bad BIOS)

 

[apoppin]

A bad CPU can happen to anyone. Rare, but it happens.

i got two bad ASUS AM3+ boards (from AMD) in a row. First one was DoA; second one broke the PCIe No2 slot riser from the MB when i pulled my videocard out and the LAN died when i overclocked it.

i asked AMD for another MB ... or perhaps that will go through ASUS; i benched a few games and there is BETTER CrossFire scaling (almost like normal) at 4.4GHz

AND i'd ALSO like to report two BUGS

- DueSex: Human Revolution and Total War: Shogun II, both BSoD the computer on launching either game. At first i thought it might just me me and my flaky MB ... but not just me ... just like this site reports:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/842-22/ ... -1404.html

Notice that these are "Gaming Evolved" titles. AMD say however, that it may be a Steam issue and they are working on it right now.

If you are trying to run the game through STEAM, that may be the cause of the problem. . . local copies of the game should work fine.

The good news is that CrossFire scaling is much better with the FX-8150 running at 4.4GHz. Evidently, it turbos up only to about 3.9GHz in games.

 

[nanaki333]

No way. Even before the TLB bug bit them they had an exhaustive verification process.

I'd lean more towards it being a mobo, psu, or ram issue. (and by mobo I include the possibility of bad BIOS)

yep. i won't know til i get my 6100 to test in here. the x4 840 works just fine in this board. could be a bios thing. regardless, i got a head start on the rma. even if it is the bios, it does me little good until asrock fixes it. better safe than sorry.

 

[soccerballtux]

2 duds does not equal common.

Seriously, I have a llano laptop and it isn't a dud.

they have tests which will easily tell them if it's a dud or not.
That these make it into production tells us they are cutting corners.

 

[nanaki333]

finally got an update on my RMA

Thank you for contacting AMD Global Customer Care. For RMA 2000124434, we will be sending you a replacement processor. However at this time our RMA warehouse does not have any FX8150's in stock and we are trying to get an ETA on when we can ship out to you.

 

[Idontcare]

finally got an update on my RMA

AMD doesn't have 8150's in stock?

 

[nanaki333]

AMD doesn't have 8150's in stock?

correct. they confirmed 4 of 8 cores were bad when i called before i got them to send me the placement status.

 

[Vesku]

The Renton, WA Fry's was completely out of non-Llano AMD chips except for Phenom II 975s. Wanted to pop a x6 in on the weekend but had to order online.

Seems to be quite a bit of anecdotal evidence for a really tight production squeeze on all AMD CPUs.

 

[Rvenger]

Tell them to give you 2 FX8120 CPUs and you will be happy

 

[Dravic]

The Renton, WA Fry's was completely out of non-Llano AMD chips except for Phenom II 975s. Wanted to pop a x6 in on the weekend but had to order online.

Seems to be quite a bit of anecdotal evidence for a really tight production squeeze on all AMD CPUs.

Think its a combination of a few things.

1. General 32nm process issues at GF

2. LLano taking priority over BD 32nm resources - pretty sure the focus on llano was one of the first delays leading up to BD release. AMD is banking on Fusion, APU computing, and international growth more then BD.

3. BD's are selling well - its new and shiny, overclocks well, and believe it or not has good enough performance for anyone not already on an overclocked PHII x6.

 

[busydude]

Didn't AMD say 45nm chips are EOL? Personally, I don't think it is a good idea.

But considering they are sharing the same equipment; I don't think AMD has a choice.

 

[Idontcare]

Didn't AMD say 45nm chips are EOL? Personally, I don't think it is a good idea.

But considering they are sharing the same equipment; I don't think AMD has a choice.

Yeah, they did state recently that the 32nm ramp efforts resulted in a diminished 45nm capacity and this was impacting their ability to meet demand of 45nm SKU's.

 

[nanaki333]

*sigh*
I'm never going to get a chip...

Response and Service Request History:
Unfortunately, it seems that the stock for this processor still has not arrived. We are waiting on an update from our suppliers currently. I will update you as soon as I hear back.
In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.

 

[Idontcare]

*sigh*
I'm never going to get a chip...

Wow, that's awful.

So not only did their QRA let a bad CPU through to the retail channel, but their customer support ranks so low in priority that they would rather send the CPU's that are being made everyday to the channel for new sales rather than support a customer who already paid up by sending you one of them?

That stinks and is very telling of their corporate priorities. Existing customers should be first in line to get their warranties serviced, not put in the back of the line in a holding pattern with no visibility into the timeline for resolution to your support needs.

Talk about a company with a customer policy which I would vote with my wallet to NOT support...

 

[Vic Vega]

Wouldn't surprise me if the CPU was a dud. Considering that it has a 125W TDP rating and is slower than the PII in some cases means that AMD is having some serious troubles.

This kind of trolling is getting old. My ignore list is getting pretty large.

 

[nanaki333]

yeah. that was my reaction after i called them upset. i saw e-tailers get new stock in left and right, but they don't have anything to give me one that works.

 

[exar333]

Wow, that's awful.

So not only did their QRA let a bad CPU through to the retail channel, but their customer support ranks so low in priority that they would rather send the CPU's that are being made everyday to the channel for new sales rather than support a customer who already paid up by sending you one of them?

That stinks and is very telling of their corporate priorities. Existing customers should be first in line to get their warranties serviced, not put in the back of the line in a holding pattern with no visibility into the timeline for resolution to your support needs.

Talk about a company with a customer policy which I would vote with my wallet to NOT support...

Agree 100%. I cannot believe they are making the OP wait around for the CPU. For anyone who may have bought this with a brand-new MB, they would have a nice paperweight sitting around waiting for the replacement to come. Crappy.

 

[nanaki333]

Agree 100%. I cannot believe they are making the OP wait around for the CPU. For anyone who may have bought this with a brand-new MB, they would have a nice paperweight sitting around waiting for the replacement to come. Crappy.

heh.. i had to put an x4 840 in the machine in the meantime

 

[nanaki333]

i called AMD for a status and the guy told me they haven't even tested it yet. they still have no eta at all. i love being an early adopter...... i'm thinking all my future company computers will be switched to intel and their celeron series instead of the athlon ii.


EDIT: i forgot to mention the killer of my phone call. i asked if he sees my response to the ticket that went unanswered. he said it never showed up because my ticket was closed. i guess if i didn't call i would have never gotten anything back.