Fx-55 and 4000+ reviewed.

[Adn4n]

Finally Anandtech reviews the Fx-55 and the 4000+. Among them are also benchmarks of the 3200+ line and above, and the P4 530 and above.

The difference between the 3800+ and the 4000+ is not significant at all, and does not justify the price difference. The Fx-55 beats the EE by extremes, and even the 560 is faster than the EE

LINK

 

[Frew]

How do you say, AMD PWNED INTEL!!1!one!11. While still sounding smug?

 

[Adn4n]

Watch and learn:

Amd>Intel

 

[Zebo]

More interesting to me was "cheap" 3400 hangin' with both 3800 and 4000 Not more than 10% difference ever, and a lot closer most of the time.

Overall...Total Annihilation.


If you primarly game you are a fool to even think about Intel chips of any kind when "cheap" 3200/3400 newcastles are whoopin Intels fastest.. FX55 OMG PIMP. Bring it.

 

[Sylvanas]

buy .09 3200+, overclock to 2.4, enjoy.

 

[FelixDeCat]

FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

 

[SickBeast]

Hmmm...the FX-55 has strained silicon and is 0.09um. I wonder when the 3000+ will be using this technology.

 

[imported_SLIM]

Hmmm...the FX-55 has strained silicon and is 0.09um. I wonder when the 3000+ will be using this technology.

Nope, still using a very mature looking 130nm process with the new addition of strained silicon. Hope this article clears the air for all those threads wondering who makes the better processor (at this point in time).

SLIM

 

[Yanagi]

From what I've heard FX-57 will be on .09nm But I dont htink that'll be oiut until end of next year or something like that.. Bleh, I'll wait until the new process matures and get it up to about 2.8GHz on air I dont like extreme cooling. Too expensive for my taste

 

[clarkey01]

I think the FX-57 will be out around March Yanagi, they tend to come every 6 months, plus 90 nm yields will be better and 2.8 Ghz wont be so hard.

As for the review the 4000+ was ok ,I was expecting another 3200 xp fiasco, but it?s performed ok, funny at hardcop it seems a lot better, perhaps there benchmarks over there are a little biased but hey.

 

[clarkey01]

Also they will only be a 200 Mhz jump in the P4 (3.8) plus another 1 Meg cache ( cache is more beneficial to a P4 then K8) so Intel might claw some back but time will tell.

 

[Yanagi]

I thought the next P4 would be 1066 mhz fsb 3.73 GHz P4 EE with 2 mb lvl 2 cache?

 

[clarkey01]

yeah the EE, out nov, but the last P4 will be at 3.8 with more cache.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Originally posted by: Sylvanas
buy .09 3200+, overclock to 2.4, enjoy.

Anand was hitting 2.6 on air with the 3200/3000's in his review...I'm hoping to do the same on water

Poor Intel, they've got one last EE and one last Prescott to throw out into the ring, then AMD will just drop a more mature 90nm FX on top and that's all she wrote for the speed wars. Like Anand said, this is the last year of the Ghz war, after this it's all dual core...but then we have to have highly optimized software before we get any benefit.

 

[Zebo]

I think anand got a VERY good chip ZobarStyl. That's all I'm hoping for on water too what anand got on air....as soon as I find a board I like....

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

We only determined that the FX-53 was made of wood, not any of the other FX chips

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

We only determined that the FX-53 was made of wood, not any of the other FX chips

And that wood chip wastes the P4EE, thats sad.......

 

[Zebo]

No wood just nickle plated copper Interated heat spreader and silicon

http://xtremesystems.org/forum...php?attachmentid=12941

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Zebo
No wood just nickle plated copper Interated heat spreader and silicon

http://xtremesystems.org/forum...php?attachmentid=12941

You'll neve get Felix to believe that !

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

We only determined that the FX-53 was made of wood, not any of the other FX chips

Well, let's be fair here...

They're using a special wood/silicon alloy, on 2x4 wafers. And that's their biggest problem. Since the wafers are so small, it's hard to get decent yields. Even though they are using BOI (Bark on Insulator) and Strained Pine technologies, it's still a low yielding process. Imagine if one knot shows up... It's basically an entire waste of that wafer.

And then there's still electrotermitagration and crosstalk along the ring layers that are challenges.

What AMD has been able to accomplish with timber is really quite impressive.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Oh man, think back to the days when Tom's Hardware had that video that showed AMD had insufficient insecticide and if you ran without the heatsink you got termites...

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

We only determined that the FX-53 was made of wood, not any of the other FX chips

Well, let's be fair here...

They're using a special wood/silicon alloy, on 2x4 wafers. And that's their biggest problem. Since the wafers are so small, it's hard to get decent yields. Even though they are using BOI (Bark on Insulator) and Strained Pine technologies, it's still a low yielding process. Imagine if one knot shows up... It's basically an entire waste of that wafer.

And then there's still electrotermitagration and crosstalk along the ring layers that are challenges.

What AMD has been able to accomplish with timber is really quite impressive.

:heart::laugh:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
FX is a supreme waste of money for a wooden chip. :laugh:

We only determined that the FX-53 was made of wood, not any of the other FX chips

Well, let's be fair here...

They're using a special wood/silicon alloy, on 2x4 wafers. And that's their biggest problem. Since the wafers are so small, it's hard to get decent yields. Even though they are using BOI (Bark on Insulator) and Strained Pine technologies, it's still a low yielding process. Imagine if one knot shows up... It's basically an entire waste of that wafer.

And then there's still electrotermitagration and crosstalk along the ring layers that are challenges.

What AMD has been able to accomplish with timber is really quite impressive.

What about the fact it helps our enviroment by selectively harvesting to help prevent forrest fires? Or that Pinocchio got work as the expert who determines the Performance Rating? Coincidence that his nose grows when he lies and it's made of wood? I don't think so

 

[Zebo]

teehee.. Old growth from saxony germany helps with stability.

 

[clarkey01]

2.6 Ghz on 130 nm tech, got to hand it to FAB 30 and the guys that work there.:beer: