blckgrffn
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Wish this forum had an "answer" feature... of course I am not the first to bring this up
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Wish this forum had an "answer" feature... of course I am not the first to bring this up
Well I sold my old AGP 6800GT as soon as I finished the upgrade but before I detected the crashing problem, so that isn't an option. Yes, I know that wasn't very smart.
But I will try the new (MSI) mobo today and update; that would be just as good as moving back to the old.
But I will try the new (MSI) mobo today and update; that would be just as good as moving back to the old.
blckgrffn
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FelixDeCat
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Ive had two AMD chips die on me, so this is not surprising. Ive never had an Intel die on me yet.
Have you actually checked with them on this? You might get lucky, or try small claims court.
Good luck.
Hmmm I have had 7 AMD chips and they have never failed on me. HMMM. Which chips failed and how did they fail? I would like some factual information to go along with your claim if it is possible. 5WH Felix if you would, please. (5WH is who, what, when, where, why and how)
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Actually, I wasn't really calling him a troll; I was more interested in how the chips failed because I have had seven AMD chips (and four Intel chips) and never had any fail (except for the unfortunate water cooling incident which was most decidedly user error) so I was simply curious. I am tired and should of worded it differently but have had some interesting exchanges with Felix in the past. If I insulted or implied you were lying I apologize. I don't particularly care for the search function on this forum but will try thanks.
I admit I was slighlty irritated/interested in his "wasn't surprising" remark implying that AMD chips fail a lot? and I guess that irritated me a little. Sorry.
Edit: I forgot to mention since I don't have all the working chips (sold the computers/gave them away/threw them away) I couldn't prove they were all working but I was implying AMD failed and insinuated that that isn't surprising so I became curious to how they failed because I definitely had a chip "fail" but that was due to my error as I stated.
I admit I was slighlty irritated/interested in his "wasn't surprising" remark implying that AMD chips fail a lot? and I guess that irritated me a little. Sorry.
Edit: I forgot to mention since I don't have all the working chips (sold the computers/gave them away/threw them away) I couldn't prove they were all working but I was implying AMD failed and insinuated that that isn't surprising so I became curious to how they failed because I definitely had a chip "fail" but that was due to my error as I stated.
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uggh. Ok this is the last time for people who dont search:
It was two 1700xps on a iwill xp333 board. Both were unlocked. Both were taken to the limit on air. Both only lasted a few days at those speeds. One died and never recovered. The other did live about week longer at stock and then started producing blue screens thereafter. Total crap.
Whatever. You ran a pair of chips in an unsupported configuration and obviously took them too high and fried them. What the hell does that have to do with this thread?
Ah, so how does your overclocking cpus have anything to do with "Ive had two AMD chips die on me, so this is not surprising. Ive never had an Intel die on me yet" (Felixdecat). You overclocked them and killed them (I popped a leak and cooked a 4400+ but I don't blame the chip for a failed water overclock).
Anyway
q]Originally posted by: warbean
Update:
New 24 pin PSU installed with dedicated PCI-E support. Hasnot fixed game crash issue. Now resigned that mobo is broken.
Can anyone confirm that a faulty motherboard can cause Prime 95 to fail, even if the CPU is working fine? :::crosses fingers that my beloved FX-53 is still good:::[/quote]
As another poster stated a bad motherboard can cause all kinds of failures. I hope a bad motherboard didn't damage your cpu. Have you tried one memory stick with safe defaults in the BIOS to try and ensure safe operating (also have you tried to lower your cpu multiplier to run at 1.8 or 1.6 to see if you get the same crashes?
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Originally posted by: warbean
Memtest was conducted on this setup and passed as stated before. CPU chipset and fan were remounted with arctic silver only about a week and a half ago. (I upgraded motherboards from AGP to PCI express)
I have no idea why it's so hot! Are all FX-53s this way? Does anyone think it would be worth it to invest in a brand new cpu cooler? I would only buy one if I thought there wasn't already permanent damage. If there was, I'd just say forget it and wait for Conroe.
Voltages:
Core: 1.52 (tested up to 1.6, still fails every time)
+3.3 : 3.29v
chipset: 1.52v
DIMM: 2.73v
+5v : 4.99v
if you used too much arctic Silver that will cause overheating...
blckgrffn
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No, but it sure is funny to hear someone whining about baking their chips on air...
I don't even want to know what the voltage was
I told you "likely user incompetence".....He will probably find a way to kill a Conroe...though he would never admit it publicly...
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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
No, but it sure is funny to hear someone whining about baking their chips on air...
I don't even want to know what the voltage was
Oh please. I treated those chips like I would any Intel chip and gave them a good thrashing. Ive been O/Cing since 1991 and I probably have more experience than all of you combined ^2. Those chips bit the dust. They couldn't handle it.
NOW I know AMD quality has vastly improved since the XP and has alot more tolerance built in, and I was about to give x2 a whirl since its been six years. But Intel announced a surperior product making that decision mute.
If something fails you, say so. Dont be afraid of a backlash or criticism by zealots (they know who they are). Ive had tons of p4s and not 1 death.
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
No, but it sure is funny to hear someone whining about baking their chips on air...
I don't even want to know what the voltage was
Oh please. I treated those chips like I would any Intel chip and gave them a good thrashing. Ive been O/Cing since 1991 and I probably have more experience than all of you combined ^2. Those chips bit the dust. They couldn't handle it.
NOW I know AMD quality has vastly improved since the XP and has alot more tolerance built in, and I was about to give x2 a whirl since its been six years. But Intel announced a surperior product making that decision mute.
If something fails you, say so. Dont be afraid of a backlash or criticism by zealots (they know who they are). Ive had tons of p4s and not 1 death.
Thats one good ything about the internet...
You can say you did such and such and nobody can refute it....rofl
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
No, but it sure is funny to hear someone whining about baking their chips on air...
I don't even want to know what the voltage was
Oh please. I treated those chips like I would any Intel chip and gave them a good thrashing. Ive been O/Cing since 1991 and I probably have more experience than all of you combined ^2. Those chips bit the dust. They couldn't handle it.
NOW I know AMD quality has vastly improved since the XP and has alot more tolerance built in, and I was about to give x2 a whirl since its been six years. But Intel announced a surperior product making that decision mute.
If something fails you, say so. Dont be afraid of a backlash or criticism by zealots (they know who they are). Ive had tons of p4s and not 1 death.
well you obviously did not"thrash" your P4's much....Ever heard of SNDS? It killed quite a few northwoods in overclocking...It was about giving a bit too much vcore eventhough the temps were well within the opertaing parameters...
Then came the prescotts which have been heaters since day one....While thermal throttling has definitely saved them from burn out they can still die or get damaged from excessive vcore....I true ocer that "thrashes" their cpus likely would have done this in their process of learning...
I killed one northwood 1.8a by giving it 1.75v....even though my load temps were only in the mid 50's......Never killed an athlon yet so what does that say???
Your "not surprising" comment shows you for the troll you are and what you were really trying to do and that is your normal M.O....incite and inflame....
I think if you continue that practice of quoting ppl and then changing their words as if they said it I will ask for your vacation as well....Mods dont let this practice continue...
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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
No, but it sure is funny to hear someone whining about baking their chips on air...
I don't even want to know what the voltage was
Oh please. I treated those chips like I would any Intel chip and gave them a good thrashing. Ive been O/Cing since 1991 and I probably have more experience than all of you combined ^2. Those chips bit the dust. They couldn't handle it.
NOW I know AMD quality has vastly improved since the XP and has alot more tolerance built in, and I was about to give x2 a whirl since its been six years. But Intel announced a surperior product making that decision mute.
If something fails you, say so. Dont be afraid of a backlash or criticism by zealots (they know who they are). Ive had tons of p4s and not 1 death.
well you obviously did not"thrash" your P4's much....Ever heard of SNDS? It killed quite a few northwoods in overclocking...It was about giving a bit too much vcore eventhough the temps were well within the opertaing parameters...
Then came the prescotts which have been heaters since day one....While thermal throttling has definitely saved them from burn out they can still die or get damaged from excessive vcore....I true ocer that "thrashes" their cpus likely would have done this in their process of learning...
I killed one northwood 1.8a by giving it 1.75v....even though my load temps were only in the mid 50's......Never killed an athlon yet so what does that say???
Your "not surprising" comment shows you for the troll you are and what you were really trying to do and that is your normal M.O....incite and inflame....
I think if you continue that practice of quoting ppl and then changing their words as if they said it I will ask for your vacation as well....Mods dont let this practice continue...
So you admitted that you didnt know what you were doing, killed a cpu as a result, and threw an insult in to boot. What a man. :thumbsdown:
Unlike you, I know not to overvolt. Those XP chips sucked. Period.
You need to be stripped of your title, because your attitude and behavior is unbecomming. Grow up already and stop being so childish.
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