Future Proof Power Supply?

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jose

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Strange55,

Does the Enermax 600w have 24pin mobo connector for dual systems ?

Does anyone know if the OCZ 600w has a 24pin mobo connector also ?

Regards,
Jose
 

Gamingphreek

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Alll the OCZ's have the 24 pin adapter. Why would you wait for the Coolermaster PSU. They are not even in the same league as PCP&C, OCZ, ANtec, ENermax.

PCP&C is the noisiest but probably most powerful.
The OCZ is supposed to hover around 26dba and is right on the heels of the PCP&C in terms of power.

You really dont need to replace the fans on any of these PSU's.

-Kevin
 

Gothgar

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why the hell would anyone pay that much for a psu?

are you running a server with 4 processors and 10 drives in it?

If not, then you dont need that psu

you coulda spent 60 bucks and been just as good off
 

fkloster

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
why the hell would anyone pay that much for a psu?

are you running a server with 4 processors and 10 drives in it?

If not, then you dont need that psu

you coulda spent 60 bucks and been just as good off


Its futureproof. In addition I never thought I would need 4 molex connectors to just run video (i.e. twin 6800 ultras which will be reality shortly)
 

Thoreau

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That monster mobo power connection on the OCZ PSU is one thing I *dont* like about it. It's really annoying when you have a really nice wiring setup in your case, have everything routed neatly, and then have to deal with this big fat adapter right smack in the middle of your system. Maybe it's nice if you're slapping it into a server board or just like to plan way ahead for the future, but for the enthusiast (which is who this PSU is marketed to) it makes no sense. Other than that, the mirror finish, and nifty hdd/vga power leads are kinda nice... not to mention the fully adjustable power rails.
 

Gothgar

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Originally posted by: fkloster
Originally posted by: Gothgar
why the hell would anyone pay that much for a psu?

are you running a server with 4 processors and 10 drives in it?

If not, then you dont need that psu

you coulda spent 60 bucks and been just as good off


Its futureproof. In addition I never thought I would need 4 molex connectors to just run video (i.e. twin 6800 ultras which will be reality shortly)

so what you are saying is in 25 years you can still use that power supply?

nothing is future proof... ever
 

fkloster

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: fkloster
Originally posted by: Gothgar
why the hell would anyone pay that much for a psu?

are you running a server with 4 processors and 10 drives in it?

If not, then you dont need that psu

you coulda spent 60 bucks and been just as good off


Its futureproof. In addition I never thought I would need 4 molex connectors to just run video (i.e. twin 6800 ultras which will be reality shortly)

so what you are saying is in 25 years you can still use that power supply?

nothing is future proof... ever

no not for 25 years.... but for 5 years... this PSU will be good to power anything I'm going to throw @ it.

 

jose

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Very much doubt any $60 ps could power any dual opt/xeon system today. Much less try to power a dual cpu/sli w/ 4 hd's..

Regards,
Jose
 

Dynamix3D

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Originally posted by: DrCool
Dynamix3D

if you think the enermax whisper is noisey, then you best not even consider the pc power and cooling power supply. they sound like jet engines in comparison.

here is a detailed review of the Enermax Noisetaker Series:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article149-page1.html

if the noise level of the enermax whisper bothers you, you probably want to go with something like the Antec Phantom 350:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article188-page1.html

Well I don't necessarily think the Whisper is loud. It's not loud, its just that its the loudest thing inside of my case. I have 4 Panaflo L1A's and I can hear the PSU over all 4 fans. Anyway that PC P&C psu is out of the question already since everyone is saying its loud. I would love to have something with a single 120mm fan like the Coolermaster or the Antec NeoPower, only problem with those two is lack of wattage. :-

But anyway I might just go with the Coolermaster 450 for now since I won't be running dual GT's yet. I will probably wait till 6800GT's go down to at least $250 range before I add another one into my rig. I think a single GT will hold me down just fine for now. So by the time I decide to upgrade to another GT, Coolermaster will have came out with there 550W version of the Real Power, and I can upgrade to it. :)
 

erikistired

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i'm sure all those people who bought beefy power supplies for their p3 rigs thought they were future proof as well. wonder how that turned out... :D
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Dynamix3D
Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
why dont you run one 6800GT now, and add the other later?

if youre going for super monster rig, why dont you get an FX processor?

but to answer your question, i would get one of those $150+ PSU, or the enermax with the dual 12v rails.

Yes I actually do plan on getting only one 6800GT at first, but I figure since my plans are to get a second in the future, I might as well get the power supply that will support both now, rather than having to worry about upgrading that also in the future. And I definately won't spend the extra money for an FX processor when its been proven that the 3000+ can be overclocked to 2.6Ghz.
How much power does your rig really need?

an eXtra 6800GT won't take that much power . . . . ;)


me . . . . i tend to get what i need - NOW; reasonably priced and quality (i.e. good bang for buck) . . . and not worry about (possible) future upgrades.
:roll:
 

nealh

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I just got a OCZ Powerstream 520W...never realized there was a green led fan...no biggie..looking at the PSU I know the rear grill will come off but I doubt you could just pull the fan out

BTW compared to my 2yr old Antec True 480w..which died, this PSU is very quiet..at 60% load (pretty sure)it is rated at 23db..

It comes with PCI-E connector, 2 SATA, 2 twisted 3 4pin molex with floppy, 2 single shield VGA/HDD 4pin molex adapters, 20pin atx connector with a slide off 4pin to make it 24pin...chrome plated??..mirror finish...very nice...
BTW the ATX mobo connector is not worse than my previous antec

also it is big 5.9x3.4x7(not 5.5) inches

do not forget you can adjust rails if need be...mine was ok out of the box at idle and after running 3dmark03...

Price wise...nothing was comparable IMHO..I looked at Neopower and 485w noistaker from enermax....I not sure you can comapre the 520w to 600w PSU
 

Slaimus

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Any PS with Active PFC will do. The wattage really does not mean much for those. Newegg has the SilverStone 400W with Active PFC for $63. This PS compaison shows the SilverStone 300W having less ripple running dual Opterons then even the high powered ones.
 

Gamingphreek

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PFC Will do nothing. DOnt listen to that. It is not necessary only an added bonus. Everyone else here has recommend OCZ Enermax or Antec
 

nealh

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Active PFC is designed to reduce power consumption and costs...for a residential user in the US it probably will provide a small benefit in savings...it basically means the unit uses lower energy from the utility's power grid thus lower cost to a business...

the active PFC are more effiecient but not much ...if the unit you likes has it fine but I would not spend extra to get ..at this at this point in time

I can not tell you whether a 600w PSU is critical vs 500w psu...I have no method of showing my wattage usage on my P4 to know if I need more than 520w but I doubr it
 

imported_situman

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Right now I have the 600 watt Enermax 600watt noisetaker in my system. It is very quiet, but now my case fans are starting to annoy me.
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
get a pc power and cooling 510W. pricy, but is far more then enough even wtih 2 gt's.



Quoted for truth. PC Power and Cooling is untouchable when it comes to PSUs.
 

beatle

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People rant about PCP&C, but as Mik3y pointed out, it's loud. With so many great quiet PSUs out there, I'd only look into PCP&C if I had more money than I knew what to do with and I was deaf. :)

I just put in an OCZ Powerstream 470 and it's great. It's very quiet and the rails are solid. I expect to get several years of service out of it.
 

nealh

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I agree 100% that PC power & Cooling are are simply the best...but they are excellent alternatives

After 2 days I have been impressed with my OCZ Powerstream 520 w...just like when I got my Antec 480 True Power 2 yrs ago...OCZ is quiet in fact when I hooked up my cases ...I am using 2 80mmx25mm sunon they are quieter than when hooked up to fan only controllers on Antec...

I was happy with noise so I tried 3 case fans..temps where essential 1 degree less...but I was unhappy with the noise

I can hear my HDD again
 

Slaimus

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The problem is rarely not enough power, as you will be hard pressed to put together a system that draws more than 250W(on the output side, so not counting losses due to inefficiency of the AC-DC conversion).
People are buying more powerful power supplies purely for more stable voltages. In a PSU with active PFC, the input power is effectively fully buffered, so almost all input fluctuations are evened out. This results in what you wanted all along, which is voltages that are more stable even under heavy load. You will notice in that comparison review that all the units with active PFC show noticably lower fluctuations.
 

nealh

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active PFC only has to do with drawing less current off the utility grid..I doubt it does anything with regards to stability of the rails