Future of PC Gaming from Cevat Yerli, CEO of Crytek

Grooveriding

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http://kotaku.com/5674608/the-future-of-pc-gaming-according-to-the-creator-of-crysis

Interesting read. I see a large example of this in the way Blizzard is staking out their IP with facebook integration, as well as in the rants of Bobby Kotick(asshat) and his vision for social-gaming.

I expect the unannounced future MMO Blizzard has planned to heavily integrate advertising, social-networking and micro transactions directly within the game. They've seen the cash-cow in the pasture.
 

blastingcap

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http://kotaku.com/5674608/the-future-of-pc-gaming-according-to-the-creator-of-crysis

Interesting read. I see a large example of this in the way Blizzard is staking out their IP with facebook integration, as well as in the rants of Bobby Kotick(asshat) and his vision for social-gaming.

I expect the unannounced future MMO Blizzard has planned to heavily integrate advertising, social-networking and micro transactions directly within the game. They've seen the cash-cow in the pasture.

I agree to some extent and wrote a long entry about it on my private blog. It's not just PC games, either. Many things are turning to "freemium" business models. Psychologically it works for a lot of reasons I won't get into here.

For PC gaming there is only so much people can consume--you can't play 10 MMORPGs at the same time, really. So the overall quality will go up for surviving games. There will always be a few blockbusters like WoW that can charge a premium, some medium games, and then a long tail of also-rans that die off due to lack of quality.
 

Bateluer

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God, I hate Facebook. I do not want to see that little blue F in every one of my games.
 

Grooveriding

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God, I hate Facebook. I do not want to see that little blue F in every one of my games.

Not a big fan myself, but I do use it.

We're the anomalies though, facebook is pretty popular amongst the gaming crowd. A large part of that is likely the majority demographic is teens to eary 20s aged folks :$
 

Fenixgoon

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i think cevat is right in that F2P and MMO types will continue grow in popularity, but i think there will always be a market for high quality retail games. the problem is making high quality games that aren't derivative. you can't expect every FPS sold to be a blockbuster. there's only so much room to play with.
 

Grooveriding

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i think cevat is right in that F2P and MMO types will continue grow in popularity, but i think there will always be a market for high quality retail games. the problem is making high quality games that aren't derivative. you can't expect every FPS sold to be a blockbuster. there's only so much room to play with.

That's a good point and one that is carrying through to so many things, not just gaming. TV shows, movies, music etc. The idea well is starting to run dry, hence the endless sequels or remakes, whether they be games or movies or whatnot. I should of made the exception for music of pop music. As there is always an open avenue for creativity in music, just not in the packaged to sell variety.
 

tyl998

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Retail PC games better not die. I love and am willing to pay for quality games.
 

TechBoyJK

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Cevat is smart mofo. We wrote some interesting things about the "valley" in regards to photorealism. aka the more real things look, the more critical people get about graphics.
 
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If he is right, I am screwed.

I hate Facebook, social gaming, and MMOs.

What do you have to do to get a good single player game that you can enjoy alone at your own convenience instead of having to connect with a bunch of other people???

I am afraid he is right though, it just costs too much to develop a quality single player game for the PC. The best we can hope for is that there will be enough high quality "multiplatform" (i.e. console ports) games to keep traditional PC gaming alive.

The main thing I would disagree with is that causal or social games that are cheaply made will eventually evolve into quality games. So far I havent seen any of that on the facebook games.
 

EvilComputer92

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I would trust Blizzard or Valve more than this clown about the state of PC gaming. Considering they abandoned the PC to make Crysis 2 multiplatform, despite the fact the Crysis sold several millions. You can never have enough money I suppose.
 

shortylickens

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I would trust Blizzard or Valve more than this clown about the state of PC gaming. Considering they abandoned the PC to make Crysis 2 multiplatform, despite the fact the Crysis sold several millions. You can never have enough money I suppose.
Businesses exist to serve only one purpose: Make money.
All other concerns are secondary. If the customers keeps buying, they dont change their product.

Keep in mind the reason any business does anything is to make the majority of their customers happy. Next time dont bash the businessman, bash his millions of customers who gladly shell out top dollar for crap. They're the ones ruining the business as you liked it before.
 

Phynaz

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Republican tripe.

Video games have the luxury of having a noble motivation in just making good games.

Try to get funding to make that game without showing the ability to produce a substantial return on investment.
 

shortylickens

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Republican tripe.

Video games have the luxury of having a noble motivation in just making good games.

They did back in the 90's, when I started playing PC games. They havent been like that for a while.
Except for web based indie games. And how often do you guys make thousand-post threads about those?
SEE?!? Nobody fucking cares about how awesome Peggle might be. We all want epic shit and thats never cheap. Hasnt been since around 1998.
 

Arglebargle

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That's a good point and one that is carrying through to so many things, not just gaming. TV shows, movies, music etc. The idea well is starting to run dry, hence the endless sequels or remakes, whether they be games or movies or whatnot. I should of made the exception for music of pop music. As there is always an open avenue for creativity in music, just not in the packaged to sell variety.

The idea well isn't running dry, its just that the guys at the top have no clue what's what. They don't recognize innovation, creativity, or, often, even what will sell. So they go after known quantities with built in draws. When Avatar was about to come out, there were these commentaries about how brave Cameron was to go with an 'original' idea for the movie. That's just the nature of the entertainment industry: few will stick their necks out on something new. IF the same old tripe fails, they can at least point to something and say, 'It worked once!', 'Pirates ate my homework(profits)!'
 

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Interesting, Cevat needs to do it. Switch to "online PC games" because consumer "won't be willing any longer to spend $50 or more for a AAA PC game" and don't let the door hit your...on the way out.

I was just reading a Frictional games blog (small publisher) who recouped their investment for Amnesia Dark Descent and then some and are gearing up for new titles. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66172

They'll take some of that market you're abandoning, gladly. It isn't a market for lumbering giants (Crytek) anyway.
 

CurseTheSky

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Interesting, Cevat needs to do it. Switch to "online PC games" because consumer "won't be willing any longer to spend $50 or more for a AAA PC game" and don't let the door hit your...on the way out.

I was just reading a Frictional games blog (small publisher) who recouped their investment for Amnesia Dark Descent and then some and are gearing up for new titles. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66172

They'll take some of that market you're abandoning, gladly. It isn't a market for lumbering giants (Crytek) anyway.

Glad to hear they at least broke even. They can only go up from there.

I loved this quote:

"A developer should not design a game based on how it can be protected and doing so can only lead to bad things for our games," Frictional states. "What we want to continue doing is to create single player games that try to evolve the way in which videogames tell stories and evoke emotions."

I loved Amnesia and I will continue to buy anything Frictional puts out that's decent, just to show my support. So far, I've netted them five sales on Steam, two of which were mine (one copy for me, one copy for my girlfriend, who loves creepy movies / games).
 

coloumb

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I'm surprised no one posted the Ken Levine article yet:

http://kotaku.com/5675559/the-future-of-pc-gaming-according-to-the-lead-creator-of-bioshock

I enjoyed this one most

Lol that's awesome and practically mirrors my nightly routine.

Facebook, various websites, fire up fallout 3 new Vegas or civ 5, then finally off to bed to play some iPad games until I fall asleep.

Nobody can predict the future of pc gaming. They can only predict their own future of what platform to develop for. Of course most will go where the money is at (show me the money!) while others will stick to the PC platform (which include Mac and Linux)