Fury X liquid cooling - reliability / failure consequences?

[DaveSimmons]

FYI, the coolant is conductive. If that leaks, its not good for the PC. Likelihood of this happening is very low. More likely to get a leak from the radiator, but even that's not very likely. These are built to be non-serviceable and reliable.

I'm not so much worried about a good card failing 6 months later as getting a lemon that's broken on arrival and fails in the worst way.

That isn't meant as a comment against AMD or Cooler Master. Every device made has a rate of manufacturing defects that is above 0%.

I was thinking if I got a fury I might put it in an old PC from the closet like my E8400 at first. Power it up, see if coolant starts spraying from a pinhole leak or the pump makes grinding noises. If it doesn't explode and kill me then move it to my real gaming PC

 

[Abwx]

FYI, the coolant is conductive. .

It is thermally condutictive, of course but not electrically...

Or have you a source..???

 

[yacoub]

yacoub, Ill try to answer some of your questions since I read the manual released with the FuryX ( I don't own one just downloaded the manual to learn).

As to radiator placement, the radiator and attached fan should be mounted above the gpu unit if possible with the fan blowing out of the case. I believe the tubing from the gpu unit to the rad unit is long enough for most standard size cases. I imagine you could mount it outside if the tubing reaches.

I doubt most of us, unless we have very specialized tools will be able to service the pump unit. I use Swiftech D5-655 Vario pumps in my system( 2 in series in my XSPC Dual D5 bay/res) and I'm familiar with working with them but this is a VERY specialized unit. I'm sure the internal cost to AMD is less than what you and I would pay. I don't see the pump unit in the CoolerMaster catalog. I suspect CoolerMaster may be able to tell you the MTBF for the pump unit.

Hope this info helps.

Thank you.

 

[exar333]

It is thermally condutictive, of course but not electrically...

Or have you a source..???

It is electrically conductive. Even originally non-conductive liquids like glycol or non conductive water will pick up metal particles almost immediately and make the liquid conductive. In no way would these leaking into your computer be safe, unless it literally did it right out of the box AND you were lucky. Even out of the bottle distilled water is conductive in some capacity, unless perfectly distilled.

From what I can find (but we don't know for sure exactly the specs of the one AMD is using) CM uses part distilled water and part coolant in their CLCs. It would definitely be mildly conductive. You don't want any potentially-conductive liquids near exposed electronics...

This is from a H100 user. Corsair also uses 'non-conductive' liquids.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1300669/corsair-h100-leaked-onto-my-brand-new-graphics-card-and-motherboard

Edit: I use a custom loop. I accept the risks. Just don't pretend its not there and a leak could not potentially have bad effects.

 

[Subyman]

I've been water cooling since before they made dedicatd radiators for it. I would use an aquarium pump and a heater core out of a car and braze my own fittings. After all that time, I've never had a leak in a live system. People that build custom loops leak test the system for several hours before firing it up. The only things I've seen have trouble were older acrylic reservoirs and Mac Pros

As for AIOs, I'd be more worried about a DOA chip than the AIO leaking. Pump failure would be more likely IMO. If the pump fails then the card will likely go into thermal protection mode or shut down completely before being harmed by heat. However, most AIOs have very specific language in their warranties saying they are not liable for other parts harmed by a leak even if it is a manufacturer's defect. I have heard stories of people getting money for damaged parts though.

 

[Creig]

I looked up the specs on one of CoolerMaster's AIO coolers and they rated it for 70,000 hours of usage. Even at 24/7 that equates to 8 years. It doesn't sound as if it should wear out during the expected useful lifespan of the card.

 

[exar333]

Agree with most everyone here. I just don't think it's accurate to say failures don't happen, and even if they do, the liquid is harmless. There is always a chance something happens, even if it is very remote. If a fan dies, it's harmless. If an inexperienced user mishandles this at install and causes an issue, it could damage another part of the build. There will be failures, no product is 100% reliable. That said, for 99% of users, the CLC will likely outlive the usefulness of the card and do just fine.

Just saying.