Fury X liquid cooling - reliability / failure consequences?

[DaveSimmons]

I had a heatpipe-cooled passive card many years ago, but I've never had a water cooling setup.

I like the heat and noise specs for the Fury but am a little wary about the liquid part. I had to RMA my first 560ti for a defective fan, but that just meant it got loud and screechy.

if I got a lemon with a defective cooler. what are the chances it would start spraying water into my case and short out the PSU or motherboard?

 

[Elixer]

It don't use water per se, it uses coolant. Pure water would evaporate.
These days, the chances of that happening is basically less than 1%.
To make it a bit more clear, I am talking about all in one units, where people don't have to add anything, like what the Fury has.

If you use something else, that isn't an all in one unit, then those do leak more, but, as long as you secure connections, you should be OK.

 

[Z15CAM]

Evidently your not that clued into water Cooling.

I've been running CF XSPC RAZOR 290X's with a RP 401 x's 2 with 2 PMB pumps and Noctua Fans / 280x60x140mm Coolgate Rad in Push-Pull without a HIC-UP. Temps at Idle are under 40C with Stock Voltage clocked at 1020/1250 and easily does 1140/1500 with +0.134v 24/12 maintaining the same temps - Never exceeding over 70C on the VRM's when Benching.

Insearch of Fast Benching, I can Clock 1250/1500Mhz with +0.150vs and the cards GPU and VRM do not exceed 80C.

My MB is an Asus P8Z68V-Pro Gen3 with an i7 2700k running 4.8Ghz 24/7 with a Corsair H110 AIO and 16GB of Samsung MV-3V4G3D-US_DDR3 @ 9-9-9-24-1T running at 1.34 v's and under the whol platform runs at under 1v at idle.

 

[thilanliyan]

There is always the possibility that something goes wrong and it leaks but AIO cooling these days is pretty reliable I think. I would be more worried about a home built system leaking than an AIO cooler. I've had leaks over the years in the custom water systems I've built but it has been very rare and I've gotten better at knowing what and where to look when building them.

Even if something DOES leak, I don't think the liquid they use would be conductive (at least not in the short term) so if you spot the leak, shut the system down and clean up, I doubt you would do much if any damage. I've leaked coolant onto a video card once and it didn't do any damage. As for the card itself losing its cooling, I think it would probably shut down once it started to overheat. I'd definitely consider a Fury...but I got no more room for rads, with three in my case already lol.

 

[rumpleforeskin]

I had a heatpipe-cooled passive card many years ago, but I've never had a water cooling setup.

I like the heat and noise specs for the Fury but am a little wary about the liquid part. I had to RMA my first 560ti for a defective fan, but that just meant it got loud and screechy.

if I got a lemon with a defective cooler. what are the chances it would start spraying water into my case and short out the PSU or motherboard?

Chances of a leak from an AOI is very low as there are no user serviceable parts which should in theory cut down on the human error of home user assembly. The benefits of a low maintenance watercooled card should certainly dwarf any potential risk of using it.

Evidently your not that clued into water Cooling.

I've been running CF XSPC RAZOR 290X's with a RP 401 x's 2 with 2 PMB pumps and Noctua Fans / 280x60x140mm Coolgate Rad in Push-Pull without a HIC-UP. Temps at Idle are under 40C with Stock Voltage clocked at 1020/1250 and easily does 1140/1500 with +0.134v 24/12 maintaining the same temps - Never exceeding over 70C on the VRM's when Benching.

Insearch of Fast Benching, I can Clock 1250/1500Mhz with +0.150vs and the cards GPU and VRM do not exceed 80C.

Think you posted in the wrong thread!

 

[Z15CAM]

Think you posted in the wrong thread!

I take it you don`t understand what I posted.

If I have a water leak, it`s mainly due to my lack of maintenance and understanding of the platform.

In any event I do not recommend going over + 0.150v`s for any Intel i5 or i7 CPU as you risk the possibility of damaging the MPC Controller.

 

[Makaveli]

I take it you don`t understand what I posted.

If I have a water leak, it`s mainly due to my lack of maintenance and understanding of the platform.

In any event I do not recommend going over + 0.150v`s for any Intel i5 or i7 CPU as you risk the possibility of damaging the MPC Controller.

Actually I agree the first sentence was relevant.

The rest of your post tho is you just posting your specs?

"If I have a water leak, it`s mainly due to my lack of maintenance and understanding of the platform." This was all you needed to add to your original post!

 

[.vodka]

Exactly. What does a custom loop have to do with the AIO unit cooling the Fury X?

It's unlikely for the AIO to leak. The pump giving up, however, I'd be more concerned with that. Should it ever happen, the card will heat up until throttling or shutting down to prevent damage. The card won't get killed because of it, hardware these days have lots of protection for these extreme cases.

How long is the warranty on the Fury X or an AIO? That could be a good indicator of how long it's supposed to last.

 

[Z15CAM]

The rest of your post tho is you just posting your specs?

I like your Spec's ;o)

 

[Makaveli]

I like your Spec's ;o)

lol

 

[Z15CAM]

If AMD has the gall to put the ATi Rage Fury Badge on a Card - Of course enthusiasts are curious.

I still have a 2900XT and GTX 280 APG's in service.

 

[Makaveli]

If AMD has the gall to put the ATi Rage Fury Badge on a Card - Of course enthusiasts are curious.

I still have a 2900XT and GTX 280 APG's in service.

ahh miss those old cards.

oldest card i got laying around now is a sapphire 4890 with HDMI collecting dust retired from HTPC for something much quieter 6450 passive.

I like the stock cooler AIO for fury but I would love to see the air cooled version so I could rip that off and put the G10 bracket on it, then maybe a H55 in push / pull.

Would love to see a comparison to stock AIO.

 

[chihlidog]

I wouldnt worry too much about the factory sealed watercooler. I have an Antec Kuhler from my old build still churning happily away. It's now 5-6 years old, and stayed on pretty much 24/7 for 4 years of its life. It is now relegated to wife/kid duty in the kitchen since I built my new rig. No signs of failure and I dont really expect any.

 

[sam_816]

That's a main reason they let cooler master use their branding on the pump. To instill confidence in buyers. Cooler masters is a very experienced company. But you can't rule out you wont get a leaky lemon so be afraid, be very afraid lol. Just kidding. They are charging 100 bucks for a cooler purchased in a corporate deal that means market price(if retailed) of this cooler won't be lower than $150. A $150 cooler should be very dependable in theory... Isn't?

 

[guskline]

I custom water cool but this AIO on the FuryX looks like a robust system. Example? The fan on the rad.

 

[Z15CAM]

HDMI was always a dud for me and would sooner use Dvi-D and ramp up the Display Hz.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Thanks to all who replied to my question about the Fury X AIO cooler.

Z15CAM, some of your posts seem to be replies here to other peoples' questions in other threads by mistake? But thanks for trying to help, and yes I do know next to nothing about liquid cooling

 

[SolMiester]

Evidently your not that clued into water Cooling.

I've been running CF XSPC RAZOR 290X's with a RP 401 x's 2 with 2 PMB pumps and Noctua Fans / 280x60x140mm Coolgate Rad in Push-Pull without a HIC-UP. Temps at Idle are under 40C with Stock Voltage clocked at 1020/1250 and easily does 1140/1500 with +0.134v 24/12 maintaining the same temps - Never exceeding over 70C on the VRM's when Benching.

Insearch of Fast Benching, I can Clock 1250/1500Mhz with +0.150vs and the cards GPU and VRM do not exceed 80C.

My MB is an Asus P8Z68V-Pro Gen3 with an i7 2700k running 4.8Ghz 24/7 with a Corsair H110 AIO and 16GB of Samsung MV-3V4G3D-US_DDR3 @ 9-9-9-24-1T running at 1.34 v's and under the whol platform runs at under 1v at idle.

You could probably just put that in your signature, though not sure how that answers his question

 

[Abwx]

Custom coolers :

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-06/...ersten-kuehleralternativen-setzen-auf-wasser/

 

[Stuka87]

My H100i has been flawless. I have no issues with running it. Would love an AIO cooled GPU.

 

[yacoub]

Exactly. What does a custom loop have to do with the AIO unit cooling the Fury X?

It's unlikely for the AIO to leak. The pump giving up, however, I'd be more concerned with that. Should it ever happen, the card will heat up until throttling or shutting down to prevent damage. The card won't get killed because of it, hardware these days have lots of protection for these extreme cases.

How long is the warranty on the Fury X or an AIO? That could be a good indicator of how long it's supposed to last.

And how user-serviceable is a pump replacement? And what does it cost? And are the pumps actually available to consumers to purchase? And what's their MTBF?

Btw, where does the radiator end of the cooling system get placed? Outside the case? Inside the case near a fan?

 

[.vodka]

The radiator is mounted just like an AIO, you screw it in a 120mm fan hole in your case. The rad's fan is now an exhaust for the system case, too.


The pump in an AIO isn't user serviceable. Thankfully they don't seem to break easily and last a long time, going by the reports of other people here.

 

[guskline]

yacoub, Ill try to answer some of your questions since I read the manual released with the FuryX ( I don't own one just downloaded the manual to learn).

As to radiator placement, the radiator and attached fan should be mounted above the gpu unit if possible with the fan blowing out of the case. I believe the tubing from the gpu unit to the rad unit is long enough for most standard size cases. I imagine you could mount it outside if the tubing reaches.

I doubt most of us, unless we have very specialized tools will be able to service the pump unit. I use Swiftech D5-655 Vario pumps in my system( 2 in series in my XSPC Dual D5 bay/res) and I'm familiar with working with them but this is a VERY specialized unit. I'm sure the internal cost to AMD is less than what you and I would pay. I don't see the pump unit in the CoolerMaster catalog. I suspect CoolerMaster may be able to tell you the MTBF for the pump unit.

Hope this info helps.

 

[cbrunny]

I'm more concerned with pump failure as that seems far more likely than having the coolant spray out everywhere. Pumps seem to me to be less reliable than fans, or at best they're way harder to fix than a fan.

I'm incredibly hesitant about AIOs as a result. i had one pump fail on me. I RMA'd it and they replaced it no problem but I wasn't impressed. Id be even less impressed if it cost me $650 USD.

I think I'll stick to air on my GPUs for a while.

 

[exar333]

FYI, the coolant is conductive. If that leaks, its not good for the PC. Likelihood of this happening is very low. More likely to get a leak from the radiator, but even that's not very likely. These are built to be non-serviceable and reliable.