Fury X at $440 a good buy?

[linkgoron]

Congrats on picking up a great card! This should warm your heart :biggrin:

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/doom-vulkan-benchmarks-amd-nvidia/#diagramm-doom-mit-vulkan-2560-1440

That's amazing. 26% faster than the 1070 at 1440p!

 

[bystander36]

That's amazing. 26% faster than the 1070 at 1440p!

Keep in mind, that is 1 game, but that does show a very interesting result. When the resolution is increased to 4K, the gap is almost nothing. That leads me to believe that Nvidia's cards are the one with more CPU overhead in that game since in most 4K scenarios AMD performs better at higher resolutions.

 

[Madpacket]

Mine is definitely in the worst position possible, straight down fan blowing down on the radiator, there are holes in the bottom of the case designed for updward airflow. Unfortunately the rad does not fit in any position in my case. The top is blocked because the pump is slightly too long. The back is blocked because the motherboard actually only allows a small fan in that location. My drives hook up to the non window side so that only has a small fan.

I even have an extra fan I used a dremel to add on the window but it aligns with the GPU so the thickness of the radiator doesn't allow it to mount there either.

The case has holes for water cooling if I was using a custom loop but it is on the other side of the CPU and the XFX hoses are too short even if I wanted to risk taking the AIO apart at all.

My only options are either dremel another custom additional outlet which im not even sure if there is a spot because of the CPU cooler and GPU or get another case. I am looking to upgrade my CPU anyways so I may just push that forward but I was hoping to wait it out for Zen and the 7700k. I may be able to rig up something with zip ties. Have not seen any issues with cooling hit around 52c during gaming, although I get that the pump is probably working harder than it should.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. The AIO coolers are pretty robust on the Fury X's (especially the ones with the revised pumps). As you say you run at 52C under load. I get around the same temps with fans set to auto. You can always up the fan speed a little if you want the pump to work less (120mm fans are easy to replace).

 

[Madpacket]

Keep in mind, that is 1 game, but that does show a very interesting result. When the resolution is increased to 4K, the gap is almost nothing. That leads me to believe that Nvidia's cards are the one with more CPU overhead in that game since in most 4K scenarios AMD performs better at higher resolutions.

I think this is the first game to let all 4096 shaders go the work. Doom is easily my fav game at the moment so extra performance is icing on the cake. The fact that it blows past the 1070 was unexpected though.

Does this put the Fury X at 1080 speeds?

 

[RussianSensation]

That's amazing. 26% faster than the 1070 at 1440p!

Just goes to show how the PC industry has been gimped by DX7-11 and OpenGL for decades. Just imagine if we had closer to the metal APIs like Mantle, DX12, Vulkan 10-20 years ago. Also, goes to show just how serial and one deminsional all modern NV GPUs were all this time. Fury X smashing GTX1070 by almost 30% is an insane result. I hope Volta is a true next gen NV architecture from NV because it's clear the future is parallel compute and greater simultaneous utilization of all the GPU resources. As more games use Vulkan/DX12, it will become beneficial to abandon 'serial' GPU designs since all the DX12 games snow the first true Vulkan result show there is little to no extra benefit to be extracted for serial GPU architectures from next gen APIs. Once again, NV will ride the tails of 2016-2018 with little consequences since software keeps lagging behind next gen parallel hardware.

In TPU's latest charts, at 1440p the $700 780Ti has now fallen behind a $400 R9 290, $500-650 780 can't beat a $300 280X, $550 980 loses to the $430 390X.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_SC/24.html

That means the "outdated" GCN architecture has outlasted GTX 600, 700 and 900 series. If 980Ti didn't overclock well, it would also fall to the Fury X. Just shows how remarkably future proof the GCN architecture was!

 

[bystander36]

Just goes to show how the PC industry has been gimped by DX7-11 and OpenGL for decades. Just imagine if we had closer to the metal APIs like Mantle, DX12, Vulkan 10-20 years ago. Also, goes to show just how serial and one deminsional all modern NV GPUs were all this time. Fury X smashing GTX1070 by almost 30% is an insane result. I hope Volta is a true next gen NV architecture from NV because it's clear the future is parallel compute and greater simultaneous utilization of all the GPU resources. As more games use Vulkan/DX12, it will become beneficial to abandon 'serial' GPU designs since all the DX12 games snow the first true Vulkan result show there is little to no extra benefit to be extracted for serial GPU architectures from next gen APIs. Once again, NV will ride the tails of 2016-2018 with little consequences since software keeps lagging behind next gen parallel hardware.

In TPU's latest charts, at 1440p the $700 780Ti has now fallen behind a $400 R9 290, $500-650 780 can't beat a $300 280X, $550 980 loses to the $430 390X.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_SC/24.html

That means the "outdated" GCN architecture has outlasted GTX 600, 700 and 900 series. If 980Ti didn't overclock well, it would also fall to the Fury X. Just shows how remarkably future proof the GCN architecture was!

You may be going a little to far based on 1 benchmark. Other DX12 games still shows the 1070 and 1080 beating the Fury X. We all know that different games will benefit one brand over the other from time to time. I wouldn't be surprised if in time it happens more, but Doom is always going to be unique, given how they have stuck to OpenGL (now Vulkan) for years.