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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: chrisms
Screw it nobody gets tips anymore. This is getting out of hand.

Except the pizza guy. Gotta tip the pizza guy.

Well of course, as long as you want to order from that pizza place again and get pizza that lacks bodily fluids. And even if you never order from there again, you run the risk that the guy will key your X5 on his way back to one of his 4 cars.

I don't know if you're being serious here but I need to vent about tipping.

Threats of harm on my food do not make me tip you. That's like the customer service rep at the cable company saying he's going to post your social security number on craigslist if you don't order digital cable. Also, having been a pizza delivery person, I know that getting stiffed is not uncommon and we got over it. I started noting addresses that don't tip but the worst I'd do is skip over their order and take a different one. Out of the 30 or so drivers who came and went during my time there, nobody ever did anything disgusting to the food.

Second, pizza delivery drivers only get a tip from me because I understand $1 isn't a fair price for the pizza to be sent to me, and the restaurant is giving me the freedom to decide how much it should cost based on order accuracy, speed of delivery, etc. At the local Papa Johns they charge $3 for delivery, I give $1 tips. Otherwise its usually $3. I know the amount they get per drive isn't enough to cover gas/maintenence because it is expected that you tip for normal service.

Restaurants are the worst. Waitresses who bitch about not getting a 17% tip. I went to those websites that post offenders and was apalled to see them posting the names of people who didn't tip over 12, 13, even 15%. I tip waiters and waitresses $3-4 if the service is normal, $0 if they do not refill my drink (my pet peeve, the most important role of a waitress is to refill your drink). If I order a $20 plate of ribs and my date a $14 plate of pasta with two $2 drinks, and a $5 desert, I am not going to tip $7 or $8. It was not worth $7 or $8 to me for her to grab my plate and bring it to my table, a normal duty of her job. A waitress cleans tables, takes orders, and brings food to your table while checking in about once a meal. That is a job with about normal difficulty for minimum wage. I don't see why they are entitled to such large tips, and the claims I hear of how much money they make does not make me want to tip them any more.

Don't tell me waitresses have it hard. I am especially against them because I worked in the back of a restaurant and worked twice as hard without the tips. I understood why, it was an unskilled job that deserved to be paid minimum wage. The same goes for them.

I developed this attitude after going around the world and seeing the 2 euro service charges in Europe and the no tipping culture of Asia. If you want tip a buck or two in Asia. These are fair prices for the service provided.. this 17% crap is nonsense.
 
Originally posted by: chrisms
A waitress cleans tables, takes orders, and brings food to your table while checking in about once a meal. That is a job with about normal difficulty for minimum wage. I don't see why they are entitled to such large tips, and the claims I hear of how much money they make does not make me want to tip them any more.

Don't tell me waitresses have it hard. I am especially against them because I worked in the back of a restaurant and worked twice as hard without the tips. I understood why, it was an unskilled job that deserved to be paid minimum wage. The same goes for them.

You work in the back of a restaurant, it requires minimal people skills. A little different.

Anyway, the bolded point is wrong. Many if not most wait staff do not make minimum wage. They make well below minimum wage and are allowed to do so because it is assumed they will make a certain amount of money in tips.

 
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: chrisms
A waitress cleans tables, takes orders, and brings food to your table while checking in about once a meal. That is a job with about normal difficulty for minimum wage. I don't see why they are entitled to such large tips, and the claims I hear of how much money they make does not make me want to tip them any more.

Don't tell me waitresses have it hard. I am especially against them because I worked in the back of a restaurant and worked twice as hard without the tips. I understood why, it was an unskilled job that deserved to be paid minimum wage. The same goes for them.

You work in the back of a restaurant, it requires minimal people skills. A little different.

Anyway, the bolded point is wrong. Many if not most wait staff do not make minimum wage. They make well below minimum wage and are allowed to do so because it is assumed they will make a certain amount of money in tips.

Not in my state. They make one of the highest minimum wages in the nation.

Actually it did require people skills. I took phone orders and was near the front counter working the oven and handing orders off to waitresses so everyone would come to me bitching about how long they'd waited on busy nights.
 
I don't tip delivery personnel. Movers on the other hand get money (enough for lots of beer), water, and bathroom privileges.
 
I usually tip $10 to 20 especially if they're bringing in new furniture and unboxing and/or assembling stuff. I ordered a new king bed earlier this year and the two people who brought it in took it up one flight of stairs, ripped the plastic off it then were like 'ok anything else'. I don't know if it was a 'we're only going to take the trash with us if you tip us' move but I didn't appreciate it so no tip for them. Grabbed the trash myself.
 
I would offer them a drink before they started moving the furniture just so they feel like am I righteous dude and therefore be more careful with the furniture. After they were done, I would tip them 20 bucks each.

EDIT: I would adjust the tip accordingly to quality of the moving job.
 
Well, that's the thing. They're delivering and assembling and it doesn't cost me anything other than what is possibly already worked into the price of the furniture. It is a full living room/bedroom so it's not like they're dropping something into the front of the house and saying bye.
 
For those tipping $20... How much furniture are we talking about? And also, aren't you already paying a bunch just for the delivery service?
 
Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: chrisms
Screw it nobody gets tips anymore. This is getting out of hand.

Except the pizza guy. Gotta tip the pizza guy.

Well of course, as long as you want to order from that pizza place again and get pizza that lacks bodily fluids. And even if you never order from there again, you run the risk that the guy will key your X5 on his way back to one of his 4 cars.

I don't know if you're being serious here but I need to vent about tipping.

I was being serious, a certain member here who claimed in four different threads to own four different cars also claimed to have keyed the BMW X5 that owned to a person who stiffed him on a tip.
 
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