Funny vid: MSNBC anchors "not sure" on Trump's temp Muslim ban

SP33Demon

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https://youtu.be/LIeIx2HJUAs

Everyone knows the Donald is right on the temporary ban, including liberal anchors who are at a loss for words in this video.

But... "I'm not sure if Donald Trump's concept is good for our country, but..."

but... yes, our visa program sucks balls and what is your solution to weed out radical fucks from immigrating here? /crickets

The looks on their faces are priceless. It's like Donald dropped the mic and he wasn't even in the room. He doesn't have to, the SB shooters did that already.

This, my friends is why Trump is dominating the polls. He's introducing topics that, while "radical" to liberals is actually a practical solution. Let them in, continue to be killed. Temp ban them, continue to live. In the meantime, figure out a way to weed out the radicals from the moderates.

When our way of life is threatened, everyone is the same - even liberal MSNBC anchors. Fear is bipartisan.
 

brycejones

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https://youtu.be/LIeIx2HJUAs

Everyone knows the Donald is right on the temporary ban, including liberal anchors who are at a loss for words in this video.

But... "I'm not sure if Donald Trump's concept is good for our country, but..."

but... yes, our visa program sucks balls and what is your solution to weed out radical fucks from immigrating here? /crickets

The looks on their faces are priceless. It's like Donald dropped the mic and he wasn't even in the room. He doesn't have to, the SB shooters did that already.

This, my friends is why Trump is dominating the polls. He's introducing topics that, while "radical" to liberals is actually a practical solution. Let them in, continue to be killed. Temp ban them, continue to live. In the meantime, figure out a way to weed out the radicals from the moderates.

When our way of life is threatened, everyone is the same - even liberal MSNBC anchors. Fear is bipartisan.

LOL, you really should stop drinking during the day and automatically assuming everyone sees the world the same way you do.
 

SP33Demon

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I'm going to have to point out that you're wrong here. YOU may believe that "everyone knows the Donald is right", but that just isn't so.

So what's your solution to visas issued to fake addresses? lol
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-san-bernardino-shooters-preplanning-20151209-story.html
Malik's role came under additional scrutiny as investigators found a false address on part of her K-1 visa application, the so-called fiancee visa, that allowed her to enter the United States to marry Farook and become a U.S. resident.

Nice.
 

Hugo Drax

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It does look like trump has a point. Why not temporarily halt immigration until the entire vetting process is checked out with a fine tooth comb.
 

desy

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Bea cause its stupid
Are you a muslim? nope, try to prove otherwise
OK sir entry granted
 

alcoholbob

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Trump could have just said lets just do what our Gulf state allies are already doing, but I suspect it's not the results but actually just saying incendiary things which is moving him up the polls.
 

Blanky

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His plan isn't as crazy as it sounds on its face, and a lot of people support it nationally, but very few people are publicly willing to admit it, which is of course a huge problem right now.
 

werepossum

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But that's how it'd be implemented.
Trump is a business man. He sets lawyers to task.
And absolutely everyone knows this. Unfortunately we have a LOT of stupid people who are convinced that they are the brightest of the bright and therefore merely by their making such assertions, everyone else will be convinced too. They are completely unable to understand Trump's appeal and thus are continually sure that this time, they will destroy him. It's like Charlie Brown and Lucy, except Lucy is merely a blank wall and the football is all in their heads.

The vetting process is nothing more than a cursory search at most to make sure the individual is not on any terrorist watch list. Everyone knows this. It doesn't work at our leisure with an intact and supposedly allied government, so now the Dems want to bring in 100,000 Syrians. Just imagine how well the process will work at an emergency pace from a nation which is barely even extant - whose dictator not only wants terrorists out of his nation but also has every reason to hate our current regime.
 

WelshBloke

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It would be a temp ban from certain majority muslim countries, not individuals.
So being a radical Islamic terrorist with funding, what's to stop me from travelling to a non Muslim country before travelling to the USA?
 

Moonbeam

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So being a radical Islamic terrorist with funding, what's to stop me from travelling to a non Muslim country before travelling to the USA?

Don't give these idiots any scary ideas. They'll want to close the borders to everybody even to tourists.
 

Jaskalas

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So being a radical Islamic terrorist with funding, what's to stop me from travelling to a non Muslim country before travelling to the USA?

Don't give these idiots any scary ideas. They'll want to close the borders to everybody even to tourists.

Your passport likely has a country of origin.
This introduces a delay in the process of becoming a citizen of the new country, instead of jumping straight into ours.
 

Subyman

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You can't 100% vet anyone, deal with it. This hypothetical "perfect" vet is a red herring for banning countries and religions indefinitely. I'll let you in on a secret, if we ban to go through the vetting process with a "fine toothed comb" then we will be perpetually stalled. The old, "perfectionist fallacy."
 

SP33Demon

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You can't 100% vet anyone, deal with it. This hypothetical "perfect" vet is a red herring for banning countries and religions indefinitely. I'll let you in on a secret, if we ban to go through the vetting process with a "fine toothed comb" then we will be perpetually stalled. The old, "perfectionist fallacy."
True, but we can get the system from 66% perfection to 98%. And then remove the ban.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Time for the isolationists to retire to their basements. You're starting to really piss off the rational American majority.
 

Bowfinger

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Your passport likely has a country of origin.
This introduces a delay in the process of becoming a citizen of the new country, instead of jumping straight into ours.
I assume you're familiar with the idea that more gun limits are pointless since criminals just ignore the law? Substitute "passport" for "gun" and see if you can figure out why passport restrictions won't work. Incoming terrorists won't be deterred by such laws; they'll just get forged passports. It's only those who intend no wrongdoing who will be stopped from visiting.

Of course Trump's original idea -- ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. -- was even more ridiculous for the same reason. Does he really think an incoming terrorist is going to be honest about his religion if it's going to keep him out of the country? That's the problem with most of Trump's bombast: great sound bites but wholly unrealistic.
 

SP33Demon

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I assume you're familiar with the idea that more gun limits are pointless since criminals just ignore the law? Substitute "passport" for "gun" and see if you can figure out why passport restrictions won't work. Incoming terrorists won't be deterred by such laws; they'll just get forged passports. It's only those who intend no wrongdoing who will be stopped from visiting.

Of course Trump's original idea -- ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. -- was even more ridiculous for the same reason. Does he really think an incoming terrorist is going to be honest about his religion if it's going to keep him out of the country? That's the problem with most of Trump's bombast: great sound bites but wholly unrealistic.
Except the Pakistani/Saudi bitch who just shot up San Bernardino didn't fake her passport, so you're full of it.