Funny Political Cartoon. Newly Frugal Guy fights deficit spending

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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Irony. "Scare people away from change" said sarcastically, except that's what a balanced budget would be, far more change than anything else. This is the second cartoon I've seen from this site and, no sir, I don't like them.

That's a ridiculous post. If you just want "Change", detonate a few Nukes over some major Cities.
 

bamacre

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Um they ignore medicare and medicaid costs. If we eliminated those two programs, we would be pretty much close to black.

Are you suggesting we eliminate those programs? Overnight? No transition? D:
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs and dropping coverage for all retirees overnight? lmao.

Economics and ethics win.

Well, at the very least I wouldn't see those mobile scooter commercials anymore promising "Covered by Medicare Guaranteed!"

j/k
 

Lemon law

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Nov 6, 2005
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Lets us see what wrong with having a balanced budget in time of national economic crisis.

It was exactly the Hoover strategy when the stock market crashed in 1929, and what did we get with the Hoover balanced budget. If you choose long term 25% unemployment you win the prize. Once 25% of the tax base becomes unemployed, the tax base is shot to hell and a balanced budget becomes only a pipe dream.

What GWB&co handed Obama is every bit as bad, and we are damn lucky to have only 10% unemployment now.

The value of tea bagger obstruction is only in being counter productive idiotic sloganeering without a platform or a clue. .
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
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bamacre

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Lets us see what wrong with having a balanced budget in time of national economic crisis.

It was exactly the Hoover strategy when the stock market crashed in 1929, and what did we get with the Hoover balanced budget. If you choose long term 25% unemployment you win the prize. Once 25% of the tax base becomes unemployed, the tax base is shot to hell and a balanced budget becomes only a pipe dream.

What GWB&co handed Obama is every bit as bad, and we are damn lucky to have only 10% unemployment now.

The value of tea bagger obstruction is only in being counter productive idiotic sloganeering without a platform or a clue. .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml

The Herbert Hoover of popular imagination was a laissez-faire lickspittle of Adam Smith. But this idea began as Rooseveltian propaganda and endures as the creation myth of modern liberalism.

William Leuchtenburg, possibly the greatest authority on the FDR era, wrote some time ago, “Almost every historian now recognizes that the image of Hoover as a ‘do-nothing’ president is inaccurate.”
 

werepossum

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Thanks for that post. I've pretty much given up on educating people on the Great Depression and why it lingered so long in the USA.

Thanks, FoBoT, for a political cartoon that is actually funny. The OP's cartoon is painfully bad. Surely the side that owns 95% of entertainment and entertainers can make better propaganda. Hell SNL does better left wing agitprop and that show's been washed up for decades.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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An opinion piece from the NRO, one of the greatest perpetrators of Rightwing revisionism ever? they said it, so IT MUST BE TRUE, right? To listen to them tell it, Roosevelt caused the depression, even though he took office years after it began... Rushbo called the current malaise the "Obama Recession", so IT MUST BE TRUE as well, obviously.

The depression ended elsewhere sooner than in the US? how about some numbers rather than mere assertion from a notably biased source?

Righties had their way all during the Bush years, and we see where it got us today. And now they're spouting the same crap they did in 1930 and 1931, too- they were the newly frugal guy back then, too... We've gone from Dick Cheney's "deficits don't matter" in 2002 to whining about the expense of flying Pelosi around in the blink of an eye... from going to war voluntarily and buying systems the military didn't ask for to whining about every last dime... even as more and more people become unemployed...
 

nobodyknows

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Sep 28, 2008
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Thanks for that post. I've pretty much given up on educating people on the Great Depression and why it lingered so long in the USA.

Thanks, FoBoT, for a political cartoon that is actually funny. The OP's cartoon is painfully bad. Surely the side that owns 95% of entertainment and entertainers can make better propaganda. Hell SNL does better left wing agitprop and that show's been washed up for decades.

Thery're both funny, but some people know how to laugh at the truth... even if it hurts a little. It's caled being open minded.
 

nobodyknows

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An opinion piece from the NRO, one of the greatest perpetrators of Rightwing revisionism ever? they said it, so IT MUST BE TRUE, right? To listen to them tell it, Roosevelt caused the depression, even though he took office years after it began... Rushbo called the current malaise the "Obama Recession", so IT MUST BE TRUE as well, obviously.

The depression ended elsewhere sooner than in the US? how about some numbers rather than mere assertion from a notably biased source?

Righties had their way all during the Bush years, and we see where it got us today. And now they're spouting the same crap they did in 1930 and 1931, too- they were the newly frugal guy back then, too... We've gone from Dick Cheney's "deficits don't matter" in 2002 to whining about the expense of flying Pelosi around in the blink of an eye... from going to war voluntarily and buying systems the military didn't ask for to whining about every last dime... even as more and more people become unemployed...

Everything is hunky dory until they start spending money on people instead of spending money on thing that will make the rich and powerfull even more rich and powerfull. Heavan forbid that the common man get a little meat in his gruel, the next thing you know he'll want a desert too and we just can't afford that. Boohoooboohooo!!
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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Lets us see what wrong with having a balanced budget in time of national economic crisis.

It was exactly the Hoover strategy when the stock market crashed in 1929, and what did we get with the Hoover balanced budget. If you choose long term 25% unemployment you win the prize. Once 25% of the tax base becomes unemployed, the tax base is shot to hell and a balanced budget becomes only a pipe dream.

What GWB&co handed Obama is every bit as bad, and we are damn lucky to have only 10% unemployment now.

The value of tea bagger obstruction is only in being counter productive idiotic sloganeering without a platform or a clue. .

i understand the need for deficit spending when there's a crisis. it's just like a family dipping into their savings when they fall on hard times.

the problems is we don't have any savings. we just pile up the debt instead and pay interest *only* on it. once interest rates begin to rise we're going to be in some real trouble, as the interest payments will take larger and larger portions of the government's budget (which will cause inflation and/or going into more debt to pay off the current debt).

once we get out of the recession is when we need to tighten belts, reduce spending, increase taxes, and pay things off. and if you want UHC, then you really better jack up the taxes (i don't necessarily oppose a good UHC system, i oppose a half-assed one that is almost guaranteed to come out of congress)
 

bamacre

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An opinion piece from the NRO, one of the greatest perpetrators of Rightwing revisionism ever?

You're right, that was not a good source. But feel free to pick your own...
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=hoover+myth&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=c26c79a56c95bda8

The bottom line is that Lemon Law is incorrect, Hoover wasn't a Harding. Harding was the president who dramatically cut government spending and intervention to ward off a recession. Hoover was as "laissez-faire" as Bush.