Full Size Diesel Pickup MPG?

Pliablemoose

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I've been trying to sompare the big 3's diesel pickup MPG, EPA's guide doesn't list it, anyone have a link or resource that lists MPG for say, Chevy 2500, Ford F250, & Dodge 2500?
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: NFS4
~ 20MPG

Seriously? I've been averaging 22 mpg lately in my Accord (virtually all city driving & a gas pedal that can't stay off the floor), given the cost of diesel vs gas that would make driving a full sized diesel truck cheaper than my Accord.

:(

Viper GTS
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: NFS4
~ 20MPG

Seriously? I've been averaging 22 mpg lately in my Accord (virtually all city driving & a gas pedal that can't stay off the floor), given the cost of diesel vs gas that would make driving a full sized diesel truck cheaper than my Accord.

:(

Viper GTS
Well... I'd be willing to bet that the truck would only be getting something like 16MPG in pure city driving...
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: NFS4
~ 20MPG

Seriously? I've been averaging 22 mpg lately in my Accord (virtually all city driving & a gas pedal that can't stay off the floor), given the cost of diesel vs gas that would make driving a full sized diesel truck cheaper than my Accord.

:(

Viper GTS

A diesel Jetta gets over 40mpg. However, you'd have the whole problem of having to admit you drive a Jetta ;)
 

StageLeft

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I can't imagine a 300 horsepower 600 footlb torque beast of a vehicle could get around 20 mpg. Maybe with a tail wind at 50 mpg? :)

Somebody at work just bought a brand new dodge diesel. It sounds like a real beast :D
 

drnickriviera

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We have a 01 ram 2500. The worst we ever got was 16mpg on the highway pulling 6000lbs going 70mph. Pure city 18. 50/50mix 20mpg. If you can drive in the sweet spot around 50mph you can get 25mpg

It's amazing how cool the engine runs. Our PRE turbo EGT averages around 500F. Never above 1000F and that is running full 20 PSI of boost.

Even though diesel prices are lower than regular around here, we are looking into running vegetable oil. Would be nice to drive for free, or close to it.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: drnickriviera
We have a 01 ram 2500. The worst we ever got was 16mpg on the highway pulling 6000lbs going 70mph. Pure city 18. 50/50mix 20mpg. If you can drive in the sweet spot around 50mph you can get 25mpg

It's amazing how cool the engine runs. Our PRE turbo EGT averages around 500F. Never above 1000F and that is running full 20 PSI of boost.

Even though diesel prices are lower than regular around here, we are looking into running vegetable oil. Would be nice to drive for free, or close to it.

It might make you hungry though ;)
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: drnickriviera
We have a 01 ram 2500. The worst we ever got was 16mpg on the highway pulling 6000lbs going 70mph. Pure city 18. 50/50mix 20mpg. If you can drive in the sweet spot around 50mph you can get 25mpg

It's amazing how cool the engine runs. Our PRE turbo EGT averages around 500F. Never above 1000F and that is running full 20 PSI of boost.

Even though diesel prices are lower than regular around here, we are looking into running vegetable oil. Would be nice to drive for free, or close to it.
EGT of 500F? Are you sure? ....

Wow.. that seems obsurd to me for some reason. I guess I've never heard a diesel EGT tho, so maybe it's normal.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Actual results from my dad and brother in law:
'99 Dodge Ram, 4wd, 6 speed, steel contractor style camper shell: 16MPG city, 18MPG HWY, 10-12MPG with a 9000LB 35' travel trailer.
'03 Dodge Ram, 4wd, auto: 20MPG city, 22MPG HWY, 10-12MPG with a 9000LB 35' travel trailer.

These aren't in a flat place either, we live in the Sierra Nevada foothills (about an hour and a half from Lake Tahoe). In a place where it's flatter, results will be better.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I can't imagine a 300 horsepower 600 footlb torque beast of a vehicle could get around 20 mpg. Maybe with a tail wind at 50 mpg? :)

Somebody at work just bought a brand new dodge diesel. It sounds like a real beast :D


My dads OLD Chevy Turbo Diesel got high teens to low 20's, and that was the old Diesel not the new updated duramax Diesel.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Oh, both trucks are rated at 245HP/460LB-ft. As far as what's the best diesel, my brother in law has a bunch of friends with Ford Powerstrokes, and has a Chevy logo tattoo'ed on his calf. And he drive a Dodge. Although the Cummins "is only a 6 cylinder", it's about the same displacement and it's a very large 6 cylinder that can take a stupid amount of abuse.
 
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Wow, if you were in the market for a new vehicle it may be worth looking into one of these, and then selling it in a couple of years. If you are in the right market. Retain their value pretty well in East TX.
 

drnickriviera

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Originally posted by: Eli
EGT of 500F? Are you sure? ....

Wow.. that seems obsurd to me for some reason. I guess I've never heard a diesel EGT tho, so maybe it's normal.


Better be right, I just installed the combo egt/boost gauge.


When I was researching trucks, the Ford was a little worse than the Dodge. I would hope a 7.3 would get worse than a 5.9
 

Demon-Xanth

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500F on a pyrometer isn't bad. But it depends on if the measurement is before or after the turbo, and what load it's under. 700F after the turbo on the boost isn't uncommon.
 

Stark

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my opinion is that they need to make an f150 with a diesel engine

or an element with honda's new diesel

I'd take either one. :p
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Stark
my opinion is that they need to make an f150 with a diesel engine

or an element with honda's new diesel

I'd take either one. :p

Agreed, they (Ford) actually had a diesel F150 project, I'm pretty sure they abandoned it.

Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Chrysler all make light/medium duty diesels for non-US sales:(
 

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Agreed, they (Ford) actually had a diesel F150 project, I'm pretty sure they abandoned it.

Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Chrysler all make light/medium duty diesels for non-US sales:(

maybe they have a diesel lobo in mexico.
 

klah

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Stark
my opinion is that they need to make an f150 with a diesel engine

or an element with honda's new diesel

I'd take either one. :p

Agreed, they (Ford) actually had a diesel F150 project, I'm pretty sure they abandoned it.

They are still promising it:

Ford revives V6 diesel plan for light-duty pickups, SUVs
Ford Motor Co.'s on-again, off-again plan to install a V6 diesel engine in its light-duty pickups and SUVs is on again.

At a recent meeting in Las Vegas, Ford officials told dealers to expect a V6 diesel engine in the F-150 pickup and Expedition SUV sometime after 2007.
The article says they are going to wait for the new low-sulphur diesel to be available.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: klah
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Stark
my opinion is that they need to make an f150 with a diesel engine

or an element with honda's new diesel

I'd take either one. :p

Agreed, they (Ford) actually had a diesel F150 project, I'm pretty sure they abandoned it.

They are still promising it:

Ford revives V6 diesel plan for light-duty pickups, SUVs
Ford Motor Co.'s on-again, off-again plan to install a V6 diesel engine in its light-duty pickups and SUVs is on again.

At a recent meeting in Las Vegas, Ford officials told dealers to expect a V6 diesel engine in the F-150 pickup and Expedition SUV sometime after 2007.
The article says they are going to wait for the new low-sulphur diesel to be available.



Ford HAD tapped International to do the V6 diesel, but there have been so many problems of late with the new International deisel motor they cut them off. Now cummins and others are in a race to get the contract to make the baby diesel for ford.


Now that it is law to have ALL diesel fuel be low sulfur bya certain yar, GM and many others have diesels in the works. So the diesel is making a strong come back fast.