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Fukushima experienced a full-blown nuclear meltdown.

Krynj

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Maybe not "full-blown" like Gizmodo says, but a pretty substantial meltdown.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...9502/Nuclear-meltdown-at-Fukushima-plant.html

Engineers from the Tokyo Electric Power company (Tepco) entered the No.1 reactor at the end of last week for the first time and saw the top five feet or so of the core's 13ft-long fuel rods had been exposed to the air and melted down.

Previously, Tepco believed that the core of the reactor was submerged in enough water to keep it stable and that only 55 per cent of the core had been damaged.

Now the company is worried that the molten pool of radioactive fuel may have burned a hole through the bottom of the containment vessel, causing water to leak.

"We will have to revise our plans," said Junichi Matsumoto, a spokesman for Tepco. "We cannot deny the possibility that a hole in the pressure vessel caused water to leak".

Tepco has not clarified what other barriers there are to stop radioactive fuel leaking if the steel containment vessel has been breached. Greenpeace said the situation could escalate rapidly if "the lava melts through the vessel".

However, an initial plan to flood the entire reactor core with water to keep its temperature from rising has now been abandoned because it might exacerbate the leak. Tepco said there was enough water at the bottom of the vessel to keep both the puddle of melted fuel and the remaining fuel rods cool.

Meanwhile, Tepco said on Wednesday that it had sealed a leak of radioactive water from the No.3 reactor after water was reportedly discovered to be flowing into the ocean. A similar leak had discharged radioactive water into the sea in April from the No.2 reactor.

Greenpeace said significant amounts of radioactive material had been released into the sea and that samples of seaweed taken from as far as 40 miles of the Fukushima plant had been found to contain radiation well above legal limits. Of the 22 samples tested, ten were contaminated with five times the legal limit of iodine 131 and 20 times of caesium 137.

Seaweed is a huge part of the Japanese diet and the average household almost 7lbs a year. Greenpeace's warning came as fishermen prepared to start the harvest of this season's seaweed on May 20.

Inland from the plant, there has been a huge cull of the livestock left inside the 18-mile mandatory exclusion zone with thousands of cows, horses and pigs being destroyed and some 260,000 chickens from the town of Minamisoma alone. The Environment ministry has announced, however, that it will attempt to rescue the thousands of pets that were left behind when residents were ordered to evacuate. At least 5,800 dogs were owned by the residents of the zone, although it is unclear how many remain alive, two months after the earthquake struck.

Other stories:
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/05/90715.html

http://gizmodo.com/5801376/its-official-fukushima-was-hit-with-a-full+blown-nuclear-meltdown
 
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Not really surprised considering that big radioactive leak they were trying and failing to plug a few weeks back.

Oh well, at least we now have a radioactive theme park that's not in a former Soviet bloc country.
 
Iodine-131

Neutrons 78
Protons 53

Nuclide data
Half-life 8.0197 days

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Caesium-137

Neutrons 82
Protons 55

Nuclide data
Half-life 30.17 years
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The Iodine will decay down to "legal" levels in a matter of weeks. (It likely already has by the time this story printed)

The Caesium could be problematic if it was heavily concentrated, it will rapidly dissipate into the ocean though. Caesium is not water soluble.
 
Don't see anything new here. We have known the rods partially melted for months, and there has been unproven speculation that the fuel "may" have melted through the pressure vessel for nearly as long.
 
Seaweed is a huge part of the Japanese diet and the average household almost 7lbs a year. Greenpeace's warning came as fishermen prepared to start the harvest of this season's seaweed on May 20.

Well they don't need to worry about it now, since the world is ending on the 21st. :hmm::'(
 
Iodine-131

Neutrons 78
Protons 53

Nuclide data
Half-life 8.0197 days

---------------------------

Caesium-137

Neutrons 82
Protons 55

Nuclide data
Half-life 30.17 years
---------------------------

The Iodine will decay down to "legal" levels in a matter of weeks. (It likely already has by the time this story printed)

The Caesium could be problematic if it was heavily concentrated, it will rapidly dissipate into the ocean though. Caesium is not water soluble.
Um, no, it's exceedingly water soluble. It's a group I alkali metal for crying out loud, they all go boom when they hit water and form very soluble salts. Cs2CO3 is apparently 2605 g/L.
 
I'll pay attention when the group providing a good chunk of the information isn't Greenpeace. While almost every group has an agenda they've made theirs painfully obvious. I can believe that there's a big issue, but I'd prefer to hear about it from somebody that isn't trying to twist it to suit their cause.

It's like trusting PETA to give unbiased information about salmonella in chicken meat.
 
No way

The AT experts said that couldn't happen

Correct me if I'm wrong, you (the expert) said it would blow up like Chernobyl, it didn't. Nor did you know (say) anything about the spent fuel pools.

But hey, the AT resident expert (failure) at everything correctly predicted $5 gas (fail), a CA earthquake (fail) the Minneapolis bridge collapse being caused by an earthquake (fail), $5 milk (fail), among a multitude of other failures (bar, boat...etc).

Really, you have no room to be pointing fingers.
 
IF this is true...and it may or may not be true...I won't be at all surprised. They had about the worst of all possible scenarios thrown at them all at once...and sadly, despite the best efforts of the workers, they failed.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, you (the expert) said it would blow up like Chernobyl, it didn't. Nor did you know (say) anything about the spent fuel pools.

But hey, the AT resident expert (failure) at everything correctly predicted $5 gas (fail), a CA earthquake (fail) the Minneapolis bridge collapse being caused by an earthquake (fail), $5 milk (fail), among a multitude of other failures (bar, boat...etc).

Really, you have no room to be pointing fingers.

lol, pwned.
 
IF this is true...and it may or may not be true...I won't be at all surprised. They had about the worst of all possible scenarios thrown at them all at once...and sadly, despite the best efforts of the workers, they failed.

I think the workers did the best they could. As you pointed out though, Murphy proved to be an optimist and just about everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

They did have some disadvantages though.
1. This occurred in a plant using a pretty old design nearing the end of its life.
2. The Japanese nuclear industry has a pretty lousy track record with emergencies and accidents compared to other countries with nuclear power.

While the workers did their best I'm not so sure TEPCO had done everything should have to keep the plant safe or to be prepared for an emergency. I'm sure there will be a large investigation as things get under control and I'll be interested in seeing what they find.
 
correct me if i'm wrong, you (the expert) said it would blow up like chernobyl, it didn't. Nor did you know (say) anything about the spent fuel pools.

But hey, the at resident expert (failure) at everything correctly predicted $5 gas (fail), a ca earthquake (fail) the minneapolis bridge collapse being caused by an earthquake (fail), $5 milk (fail), among a multitude of other failures (bar, boat...etc).

Really, you have no room to be pointing fingers.

dmcowned!
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, you (the expert) said it would blow up like Chernobyl, it didn't. Nor did you know (say) anything about the spent fuel pools.

But hey, the AT resident expert (failure) at everything correctly predicted $5 gas (fail), a CA earthquake (fail) the Minneapolis bridge collapse being caused by an earthquake (fail), $5 milk (fail), among a multitude of other failures (bar, boat...etc).

Really, you have no room to be pointing fingers.

Your username is so perfect 😀
 
We don't care anymore

And that does absolutely sum it up...

News sites and channels don't even mention Japan anymore. And since we're not dead, I don't personally care. I'll just remember to get a tour of the exclusion zone when I go.
 
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