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effee

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So I got a letter today...

The Enlistment Act (Chapter 93).

Enlistment Notice (Operationally Ready National Service)

You are hereby required under Section 10 of the Enlistment Act (Chap 93) to report for enlistment on 09 Dec 2005 at 0830 to 1st BATTALION SINGAPORE GUARDS.


Guards are basically your heliborne/fast strike infantry.

Studies have to be put on hold till this is over :( Damn what a waste of 2 years. Be glad you dont have a draft.

 
ThePresence

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I wouldn't go if we did.
Canada, here I come.

Sorry to hear that. :(
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Must be nice to let others do the hard work to protect your way of life, but if they would potentially ask you to get up and help yourself you'd run away. Nice.
 
BigFatCow

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damn, that sucks, we were just talking about something like this the other day here. One of my buddies old Sgts got screwed over by something like this in the states.
 
Queasy

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Don't you get some kind of benefit (beyond the freedoms you enjoy) from service though? Free school or something?
 
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JLGatsby

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In Singapore, do they still enlist you if you have poor eyesight?

I have 20/500 vision (and weigh less than what is minimally required), so even if a draft occurred, I would probably not be enlisted.

Couldn't you fake the eye exam? "Z...F...W...MONKEY...CAT...GORILLA...JOHN TESH...."
 
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imported_Pablo

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I wouldn't go if we did.
Canada, here I come.

Sorry to hear that. :(
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Must be nice to let others do the hard work to protect your way of life, but if they would potentially ask you to get up and help yourself you'd run away. Nice.
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QFT. Go ahead and leave. Its not like you're contributing anything here.
 
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effee

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
In Singapore, do they still enlist you if you have poor eyesight?

I have 20/500 vision (and weigh less than what is minimally required), so even if a draft occurred, I would probably not be enlisted.

Couldn't you fake the eye exam? "Z...F...W...MONKEY...CAT...GORILLA...JOHN TESH...."
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You can't run from it, they'll find something for you :) Probably non combat though.

and no, I feel no patriotism, instead i feel its a huge burden. and I am pretty sure I'm not alone when i say that
 
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JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
that isn't much notice

you don't have any sense of duty to country?
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Not to get into such a discussion, but no one should have any sense of duty to any country or flag, but only to the world.

All soldiers and citizens should feel a sense of duty to the world, as a citizen of the world, not a citizen of a government (which is only a temporary institution srt up to enforce laws), defending freedom around the world.

Ben Franklin said it best, "Where freedom is, there is my home."

Thomas Paine also, "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

I have great respect for those who serve in the name of all the world and all mankind, not a silly flag or a bunch of crooked politicians (which is all a government is made of).
 
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effee

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I think it is the whole concept, in the US it is optional to serve, hence if you enlist, you will be doing a service to the country.

Here, its like the country has given you this much, and now it is time for you to pay it back by doing this for us hence the low pay
 
Queasy

Queasy

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: BigFatCow
Originally posted by: effee
Nope, nothing at all.

600 a month for 2 years. No more hardware for me
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600 a month? Whys it so low??
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that is about half of what a new recruit gets in the US ($1,142.70)
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Cost of living differences? Because they are being drafted while US recruits join voluntarily?
 
FoBoT

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fobot.com
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that isn't much notice

you don't have any sense of duty to country?
Click to expand...

Not to get into such a discussion, but no one should have any sense of duty to any country or flag, but only to the world.

All soldiers and citizens should feel a sense of duty to the world, as a citizen of the world, not a citizen of a government (which is only a temporary institution srt up to enforce laws), defending freedom around the world.

Ben Franklin said it best, "Where freedom is, there is my home."

Thomas Paine also, "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

I have great respect for those who serve in the name of all the world and all mankind, not a silly flag or a bunch of crooked politicians (which is all a government is made of).
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this is the type of thinking that will destroy the united states

good luck with your "one country" world, i want no part of it
 
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Lonyo

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: BigFatCow
Originally posted by: effee
Nope, nothing at all.

600 a month for 2 years. No more hardware for me
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600 a month? Whys it so low??
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that is about half of what a new recruit gets in the US ($1,142.70)
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Yeah, but that average GDP per capita is $27k vs $40k for the US, so it's not quite as bad as it looks, although it's not great.
 
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MisterJackson

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Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I wouldn't go if we did.
Canada, here I come.

Sorry to hear that. :(
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Must be nice to let others do the hard work to protect your way of life, but if they would potentially ask you to get up and help yourself you'd run away. Nice.
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QFT. Go ahead and leave. Its not like you're contributing anything here.
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I'd be willing to buy a bunch of those Wendy's cups to get the free airtran ticket (one way of course in this case) to ship his @ss to Canada! Who's with me?
 
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JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that isn't much notice

you don't have any sense of duty to country?
Click to expand...

Not to get into such a discussion, but no one should have any sense of duty to any country or flag, but only to the world.

All soldiers and citizens should feel a sense of duty to the world, as a citizen of the world, not a citizen of a government (which is only a temporary institution srt up to enforce laws), defending freedom around the world.

Ben Franklin said it best, "Where freedom is, there is my home."

Thomas Paine also, "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

I have great respect for those who serve in the name of all the world and all mankind, not a silly flag or a bunch of crooked politicians (which is all a government is made of).
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this is the type of thinking that will destroy the united states

good luck with your "one country" world, i want no part of it
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The modern day United States I would not miss. Bring back Washington's, Paine's, Franklin's, Lincoln's United States. The United States built on freedom was ruined by power hungry politicians and selfish voters. It's a socialist country now, progressive taxes, a regulatory agency for everything under the sun, wars, the patriot act. No different from any EU country and it's only getting worse.
 
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