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Frustrated- PC wont start (Fans spin a Second and go off)

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Hello everyone!
Im in a jeopardy here.
First the specs-

MSI K8nGM2 FID board
AMD manchester 3800x2 Proc (Sockect 939)
4GB DDR 1 ram 400MHZ
1TB x2 HDDs in RAID 0 (NVRAID)
Sound & GFX is Onboard
LG Widescreen Monitor
550W ATRIX SMPS with Passive PFC

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Suddenly yesterday, My perfectly working PC won't start up. Whenever I press the power button, The Fans spin up a moment and Stop (whole PC stops). Nothing more. No beeps, No errors. Can't even get bios.

I have tried the following already-

Clean stuff with Compressed air.
Remove MOBO and re-seat everything (Ram/CPU/HDD)
Remove all unncessary Comonents (Ram/HDD/DVD/Monitor/Kybd/Mouse) and try boot
Try 3 SMPS (350W, 450W, 550W)
Re-apply thermal paste to CPU, NB, SB and try.

All in a waste. Please help.
 
A lot of times behavior like that indicates a short. Try disconnecting the wire for the power switch and start it 'manually'.

Also, make sure all the screws holding the motherboard are secure and all in use, and remove anything (such a a screw) rolling around between the board and the back/side of the case.
 
Thanks for the replies,
I have taken he MOBO out of the casing, and tried it raw (Only CPU, 1 ram Nothing else) and started it using jumper. Same behavior. Heck! Even without the ram plugged in, its all the same. Board lost? CPU toast?
 
Sounds like the board went south. That stinks. The only board I have had go bad on me personally was an MSI, and I never bought another one. I am not saying they make junk, just put a bad taste in my mouth.
 
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OK.... I am going out on a limb here, but here's what I think happened: Your motherboard's BIOS got corrupted.

The description you gave - and the troubleshooting - are a perfect replica of the problems I encountered with an ECS MCP61PM motherboard, which uses the same chipset. In my case, the ONLY way this can be solved is by replacing the physical BIOS chip.

The good news is that you *might* be able to reflash the BIOS, if MSI is a better company than ECS and keeps their files available...
 
xgsound said:
It's common for bad caps that are swollen on motherboards. If you're up to changing caps, here is a link to a forum that describes how to fix the bad caps on boards from that (mid 2000s) era. This will require desoldering skills and equipment. I repaired a different board using $20 worth of their parts.
Link for k8ngm2-L ms-7207 http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7913&highlight=ms-7207

Video on ms-7207 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XS0olm2ww

Jim
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thanks. very useful links. there are no visible bulging caps. will still try spending a few dollars on caps. because I love my system.

John Connor said:
Did you try removing the CMOS battery for five minutes?
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yes. also pressed the reset switch a few times
AnitaPeterson said:
OK.... I am going out on a limb here, but here's what I think happened: Your motherboard's BIOS got corrupted.

The description you gave - and the troubleshooting - are a perfect replica of the problems I encountered with an ECS MCP61PM motherboard, which uses the same chipset. In my case, the ONLY way this can be solved is by replacing the physical BIOS chip.

The good news is that you *might* be able to reflash the BIOS, if MSI is a better company than ECS and keeps their files available...
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that's pretty grim. msi didn't even honour my warranty on a graphics card way back. they don't pay much attention to India market it seems.


one more thing, if I keep the atx 4 pin CPU connector unplugged , the system fans keep spining. of course it's useless but it shows there's a problem in that area. the moment I plug it in... same old behavior. as if smps detects a short and protection relay kicks in.
 
I'm wondering now if it is the motherboard. If you could try and flash the BIOS I would go that route before replacing the MB.
 
I wonder how could be that done as board is not responding at all. I needs to boot somehow so I can point it to flash utility, right?

or you have some trick?
 
You could see if the board has a bios recovery jumper. If you put it in recovery usually you can boot up to flash.
 
hello everyone!
I've sent the board to service center in far off city. the guy is doubtful about CPU and says that board is actually fine. in that case I'll have to buy a new system after all :-(
I'm still waiting on reports of few more tests he is about to perform.
thanks.

p.s- there's no bios recovery jumper.
 
I just called the service center and confirmed that CPU is actually bad. Being a socket 939 setup it makes no sense to invest in it anyways. what will be my options now?
Shall i start a new thread or continue here?
 
I bought a 939 x2 Opteron 180 on ebay not too long ago for $25 or so to use an old socket 939 board as a server since I had a pile of DDR1 ram and an old board lying around. I was actually surprised at the performance. It was on par with a similar Core 2 Duo E6300 system I had running. No wonder people liked those opterons back in the day.

About 3 months later the caps on the board went bad and the system stopped posting.

I still have the chip. I was planning on using it to upgrade a relative's computer but if you have trouble finding one LMK and I might be able to ship it to you.
 
thanks for the offers and suggestion. shipping to India will likely exceed the value of product itself. plus, there seem to be stability issues in near future. whole system has outlasted it's designed life it seems, next failure could blow up more stuff along!!
being 7 year old, I might as well upgrade anyways.
kindly suggest a gaming PC configuration (india specific ) budget 30,000 rupees.
 
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