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Frustrated noob linux user... I NEED HELP WITH MY ONBOARD NIC

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Tbirdkid

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I have an asus a7n8x non deluxe but i have the onboard nic that i am using. it is the nforce nic and I need to get it to work in linux or linux is leaving my second hard drive. I have found patches but i dont know how to apply them. i dont know what program to use and i dont know what to do i need someone to help me take care of this because I really wanna give red hat a chance... this is why i quit before. noone would help me.
 
i am a noob. i dont know how to attach the patch. i have the patch... i just dont know exactly how to attach it. Noob meaning first time user... is there a better forum for this?
 
The patching itself is not hard. But you'll need to spend some time figuring out how kernel compiling works. To patch, get the kernel-source pacakge, and do...

cp /path/to/patch.diff /usr/src/linux
cd /usr/src/linux
patch -p0 -i patch.diff

If that complains, use "-p1" instead of "-p0".

Once the kernel source is patched, you need to build and install a new kernel. There are many, many guides on this part on the Net - find them and read one. But it comes down to...

cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
make dep
make bzImage

And then some work to get the bootloader set up for the new kernel.

edit: inconsistent formatting
 
just to explain a little about my linux knowledge.... NONE. i have none. i am very frustrated... so frustrated i am getting ready to dump it again and just close my mind again. linux shouldnt be this damn hard.
i dont know how to apply the patch... i dont know sh1t about kernels... i dont know. that is why i need someone to help me. you guys are trying... but i dont know crap.... im just gonna go buy a book. maybe that will help more.
 
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
just to explain a little about my linux knowledge.... NONE. i have none. i am very frustrated... so frustrated i am getting ready to dump it again and just close my mind again. linux shouldnt be this damn hard.
i dont know how to apply the patch... i dont know sh1t about kernels... i dont know. that is why i need someone to help me. you guys are trying... but i dont know crap.... im just gonna go buy a book. maybe that will help more.
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If you downlaoded the patch, PROVIDE ME WITH A LINK. If I have a link I can read any readmes associated with the patch so I can better assist. That is, if I want to bother trying to help, and at this point, it ain't lookin' good 😉

Either that, or grab the proper RPM off of this page, and apply that instead of bothering with patching. 🙂

If you have questions, please ask. But calm down enough so that we can try to help.
 
thank you... i am going to try to install this one you gave me a link to. hopefully it will work i will brb and let u know
 
patience is a virtue...especially when trying to learn new things. linux isnt one of those things youre just going to dive into a pick up right away. It takes time and lots of trial an error.

Also, when asking for help its best to give as much detail as possible and links if necessary....its going to make things easier for those trying to help you. no one is getting paid for helping others around here, so more often not we are not going to hunt around for the info...we have our own peeps to deal with at work 🙂
 
ok... it installed however i still cannot get on the net and it is still not picking up my hardware for an ethernet device... whats next?
 
not to move on to another problem but i have my linux on my primary slave and my xp on my primary master... is there a bootloader that someone may have or can suggest to make so i can boot off my primary slave?
 
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
... it is still not picking up my hardware for an ethernet device...
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How do you know this? If you haven't already, check the output of dmesg | less. You don't see any mention of a network card there?

 
cleverhandle... i know you are trying to help but please remember i am a noob and i dont even know where to use what you just said and i dont even understand it. it is a new language for me. please explain in greater detail
 
Anything in bold is a command - type it exactly like it looks and hit enter. You can do that in an xterm, Konsole, gnome-terminal, or at a real text console.
 
it dont even tell me nothing that command. it just doesnt even show anything. i right clock on the desktop and do run command and then i typed in what you said to type in and nothing came up. in my network config i cant find my network card it just isnt there. not in the list of hardware... but my bios has it and it works in xp. therefore i know it aint broke. getting more and more frustrated...
 
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
it dont even tell me nothing that command. it just doesnt even show anything. i right clock on the desktop and do run command and then i typed in what you said to type in and nothing came up. in my network config i cant find my network card it just isnt there. not in the list of hardware... but my bios has it and it works in xp. therefore i know it aint broke. getting more and more frustrated...
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open up a root terminal window..then run dmesg | less
 
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
it dont even tell me nothing that command. it just doesnt even show anything. i right clock on the desktop and do run command and then i typed in what you said to type in and nothing came up. in my network config i cant find my network card it just isnt there. not in the list of hardware... but my bios has it and it works in xp. therefore i know it aint broke. getting more and more frustrated...
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Like most commands in Linux, dmesg expects to have a screen available to which it can send its output. If you start it from a run dialog, it doesn't have a screen, so you don't see anything. As Need4Speed said, you need to open a terminal of some sort. If you don't see a card available in the Network config, it probably won't be in dmesg, but you never know. Also, could you post the line from dmesg that states the kernel version and such - it should probably be at the very top of the output. Mine looks like...

Linux version 2.4.21 (root@timaeus) (gcc version 3.3.1 20030626 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Sun Aug 17 13:24:03 CDT 2003

 
decided to go buy a nic... dlink... it works but i have to use the realtek driver... any suggestions in getting the dlink one to work? it doesnt show up in the device column.... im on my linux machine now... rockin and rollin
 
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
decided to go buy a nic... dlink... it works but i have to use the realtek driver... any suggestions in getting the dlink one to work? it doesnt show up in the device column.... im on my linux machine now... rockin and rollin
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If you're online then I wouldn't even bother with getting the dlink driver to work.
 
I agree with you, Tbirdkid, I've had nothing but problems trying to set up Mandrake 9.1 on my PC for the past 5 days and this is supposed to be one of the most user friendly distros!

Like you, I'm about ready to throw the towel in.

If it's ever going to gain acceptance, it has to become a lot more user friendly than it is.

Btw, I'm not trying to start a flame war here, it's just how me, Tbirdkid and probably loads of others feel.

Michael.
 
I am going to game and the driver for the dlink is better and faster...
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Most likely the cards use the same chipset so the driver would be the same, atleast on the Linux side.

I agree with you, Tbirdkid, I've had nothing but problems trying to set up Mandrake 9.1 on my PC for the past 5 days and this is supposed to be one of the most user friendly distros!
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And I'm sure when you got your first PC and proceeded to install Windows everything worked without a hassle?
 
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