Froyo coming to Vibrant next week? **NOW????***

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Alienwho

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Pardon my ignorance, but as a new Captivate owner that has rooted and done the lag fix on my phone, what exactly does froyo bring to the table? My phone is balls to the walls fast and is already mind bogglingly awesome. I'm really curious as to what I should be looking forward to with the froyo update. It seems like every article I read about what froyo brings to the table with stuff like increased speed or tethering, it doesn't apply to me because I already have that.

Also can anybody confirm that my phone won't get borked with they roll out the update because of my rooted and lag fixed phone?
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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Alienwho said:
Pardon my ignorance, but as a new Captivate owner that has rooted and done the lag fix on my phone, what exactly does froyo bring to the table? My phone is balls to the walls fast and is already mind bogglingly awesome. I'm really curious as to what I should be looking forward to with the froyo update. It seems like every article I read about what froyo brings to the table with stuff like increased speed or tethering, it doesn't apply to me because I already have that.

Also can anybody confirm that my phone won't get borked with they roll out the update because of my rooted and lag fixed phone?
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It won't get the update unless you flash back to stock.

Froyo brings a ton of stability, the new voice search, bluetooth voice dialing. Also, all of Google's new features are only for Froyo.
 
Deeko

Deeko

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Wow, that's quicker than I expected. Nice work Samsung. Hopefully they're just as quick with the Epic...

As to the question about what's added in 2.2, quite a bit actually. Despite its small version number increase, its one of the largest improvements in an Android release to date. From Wiki:

On 20 May 2010 the 2.2 Frozen Yogurt (Froyo) SDK was released.[2] Changes included:[46]
General Android OS speed, memory, and performance optimizations[47]
Additional application speed improvements courtesy of JIT implementation[48]
Integration of Chrome's V8 JavaScript engine into the Browser application
Increased Microsoft Exchange support (security policies, auto-discovery, GAL look-up, calendar synchronization, remote wipe)
Improved application launcher with shortcuts to Phone and Browser applications
USB tethering and WiFi hotspot functionality
Added an option to disable data access over mobile network
Updated Market application with batch and automatic update features[47]
Quick switching between multiple keyboard languages and their dictionaries
Voice dialing and contact sharing over Bluetooth
Support for numeric and alphanumeric passwords
Support for file upload fields in the Browser application[49]
Browser can now display animated GIFs (instead of just the first frame)
Support for installing applications to the expandable memory[50]
Adobe Flash 10.1 support[51]
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Deeko

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JeffreyLebowski said:
hmm, with the flash support, I might have to un-root my phone. Now to figure out how to do that.
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Might not be necessary. Once the ROM is released, I'm sure XDA will get their hands on it and you'll be able to manually install it.
 
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kaerflog

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Little excited for Froyo and I'll be more excited if they just fix the GPS issue.
 
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dougp

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rudeguy said:
do the GPS fix on XDA. It worked great for me.
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Sorry, but it doesn't bro. You're probably getting false positives - the results go away after a few days. I've used those fixes on every firmware variant I can use right now - along with the Evo 4G Jupiter.xml fix.
 
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JeffreyLebowski

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dougp said:
Sorry, but it doesn't bro. You're probably getting false positives - the results go away after a few days. I've used those fixes on every firmware variant I can use right now - along with the Evo 4G Jupiter.xml fix.
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I tried the GPS fix and it made it worse. Now I have to turn on the wireless manually, and then activate GPS and it will pick up after a minute or so. If I turn off wireless it kills the GPS. Me thinks they screwed something up and have the GPS and wifi antenna's interconnected or something.
 
Raduque

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GPS is completely broken till samsung fixes it - if they can. Rudeguy, turn off "Use Wireless Networks" and run GPS Status. I'm betting you won't get a lock. The GPS should lock in atleast 3 satellites without using the wireless network triangulation to get an initial location, to be considered "working".

Oh, and I'll believe in Froyo when I'm running it.... =\

Rudeguy: protip: Don't ever remove your SDCard while the phone is on...
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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Raduque said:
GPS is completely broken till samsung fixes it - if they can. Rudeguy, turn off "Use Wireless Networks" and run GPS Status. I'm betting you won't get a lock. The GPS should lock in atleast 3 satellites without using the wireless network triangulation to get an initial location, to be considered "working".

Oh, and I'll believe in Froyo when I'm running it.... =\

Rudeguy: protip: Don't ever remove your SDCard while the phone is on...
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why not?
 
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Alienwho

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My first couple of days with the phone the GPS seemed to be flaky. Today I used it on the way too and home from work (took about 20 minutes into work and over an hour on the way home due to traffic) and it was absolutely precise and worked better than I thought possible. Hope it keeps working for me.

My battery life has also seemed to improve significantly these past few days.
 
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dougp

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Raduque said:
Cause your apps, app-cache and dalvik-cache are now ON the SD card. You pull it out, and that's basically gonna be like yanking the boot drive while your computer is running.
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Then run the LagFix off the internal SD card.
 
Raduque

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dougp said:
Uhm, I only know of one external SD card fix - and it lags in comparision to the internal SD card fix.

Two internal SD fixes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765822

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737829
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The first one are both the same thing, just two different ways of doing it. The One-click Lag Fix uses the app storage space (and yes, that is part of the internal storage), and it just grafts an EXT2/4 virtual partition on top of the normal RFS.

The second one is the one I use that moves the app-cache onto NAND so apps can access their databases quicker.

This one uses the external card http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251 and is about the only one that's NOT the OCLF that I see people referring to.
 
rudeguy

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Raduque said:
Cause your apps, app-cache and dalvik-cache are now ON the SD card. You pull it out, and that's basically gonna be like yanking the boot drive while your computer is running.
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HUH?

Do you own one of these phones or no?

You have to force the thing to store anything to external SD. EVERYTHING gets wrote to the internal. I made the mistake of storing vibrant6 to the external (like every ROM for my myTouch needed) and it didn't work at all.

I really want to flame you for trying to talk trash about something you don't know about...but its pointless. Please at least attempt to know what you are talking about before posting.
 
Raduque

Raduque

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rudeguy said:
HUH?

Do you own one of these phones or no?

You have to force the thing to store anything to external SD. EVERYTHING gets wrote to the internal. I made the mistake of storing vibrant6 to the external (like every ROM for my myTouch needed) and it didn't work at all.

I really want to flame you for trying to talk trash about something you don't know about...but its pointless. Please at least attempt to know what you are talking about before posting.
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I realize you're just trying to live up to your interwebs personality and name, but seriously, this is not OT, you don't HAVE to be an asshole.

The way I had understood the "lag fixes" was that it created an extra partition on the EXTERNAL SDcard, formatted that to EXT2/3 and moved the app cache, dalvik cache and apps to it. Thus my comment about not removing it while the phone was running.

I have since realized the RyanZAs lagfix uses the app storage, which is mounted to 2gb of the internal flash storage. I have tried this one and reverted because it broke Google Maps for me.


Oh, and I have a Vibrant, asshole.
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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Raduque said:
I realize you're just trying to live up to your interwebs personality and name, but seriously, this is not OT, you don't HAVE to be an asshole.

The way I had understood the "lag fixes" was that it created an extra partition on the EXTERNAL SDcard, formatted that to EXT2/3 and moved the app cache, dalvik cache and apps to it. Thus my comment about not removing it while the phone was running.

I have since realized the RyanZAs lagfix uses the app storage, which is mounted to 2gb of the internal flash storage. I have tried this one and reverted because it broke Google Maps for me.


Oh, and I have a Vibrant, asshole.
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And since attempting to flame you for your complete lack of knowledge on this subject...I have installed a new kernel that uses ext2 on my external SD.

So yeah...you were wrong and so was I. Fun huh?

PS: This is the OC kernel. 1.2GHZ, 2230 Quadrant score and just like stock except that you can delete whatever bloatware you want. I finally got "memo" and "friend feed back'!
 
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