Front USB and Firewire?

MBrown

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I have a MSI Neo4 Platinum Ultra and I am pretty sure I have the wires connected right since a PC technician hooked them up for me at PC Authority in Manchester, NH. Now I've been looking in the BIOS enabling things trying to get it to work and it won't. Any suggestions. And is there anybody who knows how to hook it up correctly incase he did hook them up wrong? Thanks. I have an Antec Performance Plus Case.
 

DJMiX

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find the manual for your board and look up the usb header outputs

I have a ecs and the usb is different from my otherboard EPOX...

 

MBrown

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It does not explain how to do it. It just says where it is on the motherboard
 

NotquiteanooB

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My Antec Sonata case came with a package of instructions; case exploded diagrams and instructions for hooking up USB;Firewire;and Audio; all this in a nice neat booklet and in 5 languages. Check your packing box for it; or try www,antec-inc.com and see if they have the booklet as a PDF online. If not; PM me with your email addy, and I'll scan, and email the pages to you. Hopefully the Sonata wiring for USB etc. would be the same as your Antec case.
Just a thought; but have you installed the USB 2.0 drivers? They'd be on the MSI CD-ROM; as well, they are on the XP setup CD-ROM.
 

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What I did was just find a wiring diagram for usb, ordered my wires up and wrapped 'em up with some electric tape, that way I didn't have to try to put every individual wire in seperately. When I switch out mobo's I just remember that the red wire/+5v goes on the side without the missing pin. All you need to do is find a diagram to show which order all the other wires go in...
 

NotquiteanooB

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Not all mobo's use the same pin positions. (Seems like there is no standard.) My Antec case came with the front cable USB plug (standard?)plus individual leadouts from the plug; in case you have a non 'standard' mobo. I considered cutting off the individual plugs; but thought better of it; maybe the next mobo will have a different USB pinout. Like your idea of making a plug out of the individual plugs, Necro.
 

DJMiX

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NO need to do that pins can be removed by lifting the plastic tab a bit and then reinserted
and snap in locked.


Originally posted by: NotquiteanooB
Not all mobo's use the same pin positions. (Seems like there is no standard.) My Antec case came with the front cable USB plug (standard?)plus individual leadouts from the plug; in case you have a non 'standard' mobo. I considered cutting off the individual plugs; but thought better of it; maybe the next mobo will have a different USB pinout. Like your idea of making a plug out of the individual plugs, Necro.

 

NotquiteanooB

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To DJMix: I didn't explain very well I guess. In addition to the 10 socket plug at the end of the front USB cable are an additional 9 individual wires with a single marked socket on each wire.(+5, gnd,-5 etc) This is to enable you to switch the wires around if the socket plug provided doesn't work. (On a mobo that doesn't have 'standard' USB pinouts.) My plug works fine, but I still have the 9 stupid wires on the end of that make it look like a frayed rope. If I knew how to add a picture on this reply, I'd post it. A picture is worth a lot less space than I'm taking to describe this to you.
 

MBrown

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I finnaly got my USB working. I re-did it myself. I went online to look at the manual for my case since I lost mine. It turns out the person who did it before put it in USB3 instead of USB1...well I guess that was the problem. But my firewire still doesnt work. I know I have it plugged in right becase its all one piece. and there is only one way to put it in becuase one of the holes are plugged and on of the pins on the motherboard is missing(cuz its suppose to) Still doesnt work. I dont know if its the cable or what. It shouldnt be the cable. Did anybody else have the same problem?
 

NotquiteanooB

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Does Firewire need drivers like USB 2.0 ??? Does the MSI CD-ROM have firewire drivers? And, are they installed?
 

MBrown

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Originally posted by: NotquiteanooB
Does Firewire need drivers like USB 2.0 ??? Does the MSI CD-ROM have firewire drivers? And, are they installed?

I tried looking for them but I couldnt find them on the CD
 

NotquiteanooB

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I checked on DriverGuide.com, and it looks like the drivers are specific to the appliance you want to run via firewire. Cameras; external Harddrives etc. Firewire drivers weren't on my MSI or ASUS CD-ROM's either.
 

NotquiteanooB

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If you are using XP, you might find what you need at this link

http://search.microsoft.com/search/resu...b&na=88&View=en-us&qu=Firewire+drivers


IEEE 1394 on Windows XP
Windows XP has built-in IEEE 1394 support. To use all the capabilities of the IEEE 1394 standard, your computer must have an IEEE 1394 adapter installed. If your computer has a FireWire adapter, the adaptor is IEEE 1394 compatible. Some of the capabilities of a Windows XP-based computer with the IEEE 1394 standard are: ? Instant network connectivity by plugging two or more computers together (no additional hardware or software required).
? End-to-end throughput of over 50 Mbps with plenty of digital bandwidth remaining for demanding audio-visual programs.
? Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) over IEEE 1394. This feature makes it very easy to share a single Internet connection when you connect one computer to the Internet and then connect more computers to the first computer. The Windows XP built-in Internet Connection Sharing feature provides the necessary software support.

NOTE: Internetwork Packet Exchange (IPX) and other networking protocols are not supported.
? The ability to use IEEE 1394 drivers for peripheral devices. These drivers are provided by the manufacturers of the devices.

Notes
? Windows XP comes with full support with IEEE 1394; you are not required to install any software. If you need to install an adapter, simply plug it in to an available adapter slot, and Windows XP completes the installation.
? To install an IEEE 1394 device, your computer must have an IEEE 1394 adapter. If it does, then you are only required to plug in the device.
? The IEEE 1394 drivers that you may need are provided by the manufacturer. Most IEEE 1394 devices do not need special drivers.
 

MBrown

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It seems camcorders that were made before SP2 arent recognized by windows anymore. SP2 had new firewire drivers i guess and only read device that meet current standards.
 

NotquiteanooB

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Thanks for the answer ... but doesn't that suck !! Even MicroSloth is party to forced premature obsolesence.