From sewage to tap water. LA to embrace 'toilet to tap' water

Oldgamer

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Link to LA Times

The recent spritz of rain notwithstanding, California is in the midst of what Gov. Jerry Brown called “perhaps the worst drought [the state] has ever seen.” And yet, despite the desperate state of affairs, every day the city of Los Angeles flushes hundreds of millions of gallons of potentially potable water out to sea.


I’m talking about treated sewage.

In 2000, Los Angeles actually completed a sewage reclamation plant capable of providing water to 120,000 homes — the Donald C. Tillman Water Reclamation Plant in Van Nuys. After being treated at the plant, reclaimed water was pumped to spreading fields near Hansen Dam, where it slowly filtered through the soil into the aquifer. (Here’s a graphic.)

The plan was abandoned after public outrage. Angelenos, it seemed, were too good to drink perfectly safe recycled water — dismissed as “toilet to tap.” The incident may have been the single worst example of wasteful anti-environmental idiocy since 1981, when Ronald Reagan made it his priority to strip Jimmy Carter’s solar panels from the White House roof.

Every few years, when things get dry, environmentalists and water experts in Los Angeles shout the occasional cry into the wilderness to reconstitute a water reclamation program here in L.A. Those cries are almost always forgotten the second the rains come again.

Yet while Angelenos have childishly stuck their collective heads in the hand when it comes to seriously discussing water reclamation, our neighbors have invested in the technology. Orange County reclaims 70 million gallons of sewage daily, with plans to treat even more. San Diego, despite similar hysteria to Los Angeles against water reclamation in the 1990s, has since constructed its own water recycling plant.

Water reclamation for drinking in L.A., on the other hand, is currently at zero percent, according to an Department of Water and Power spokesperson.

A plan is in the works to change that. The DWP wants to reconstitute water reclamation at the Tillman plant and filter it into the aquifer, just like before. Doing so could reclaim up to 9.7 billion gallons of water a year.

The plan, however, isn’t scheduled to be operational until 2022.

One can’t help but wonder if Angelenos actually got behind water reclamation and made our voices heard, things would go a little faster. We also need to start demystifying toilet-to-tap sooner rather than later. When the only objection to an otherwise sensible policy is “eww, gross” — well, that isn’t good enough.

California will one day emerge from this drought. The conversation on water reclamation needs to be loud enough to continue once the rain starts falling again.

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Ha! I bet they do it and don't tell the people that they have already done it..lol
 

chucky2

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Control population and the problem gets far less worse. But then, why do anything hard...?
 

Oldgamer

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Treating water is infinitely easier than controlling population.

I seem to recall some article talking about different types of chemicals and drugs in sewage water that cannot be filtered out.
 

Jimzz

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"priority to strip Jimmy Carter’s solar panels from the White House roof."

Oh geeze why did someone have to ruin what could have been a decent article with this BS?

They were not solar panels for electricity but solar hot water panels. They were also removed due to roof mainatince and would have cost more than they returned to re-install.

The Carter solar panels have taken on a whole new BS life just as bad as "NASA was dumb to spend millions on the space pen when Russia used pencils hahaha."
 

Zaap

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Anyone drinking the tapwater in many parts of this city is crazy.

Yet another reason to go bottled.
 

JohnnyGage

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Though it's been a while I did have the 'drinking' water in L.A. and it tasted like, well sewer. So, it's doubtful anyone will notice the change.
 

dmcowen674

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From sewage to tap water. LA to embrace 'toilet to tap' water

Link to LA Times

The recent spritz of rain notwithstanding, California is in the midst of what Gov. Jerry Brown called “perhaps the worst drought [the state] has ever seen.” And yet, despite the desperate state of affairs, every day the city of Los Angeles flushes hundreds of millions of gallons of potentially potable water out to sea.


I’m talking about treated sewage.

In 2000, Los Angeles actually completed a sewage reclamation plant capable of providing water to 120,000 homes — the Donald C. Tillman Water Reclamation Plant in Van Nuys. After being treated at the plant, reclaimed water was pumped to spreading fields near Hansen Dam, where it slowly filtered through the soil into the aquifer. (Here’s a graphic.)

The plan was abandoned after public outrage. Angelenos, it seemed, were too good to drink perfectly safe recycled water — dismissed as “toilet to tap.” The incident may have been the single worst example of wasteful anti-environmental idiocy since 1981, when Ronald Reagan made it his priority to strip Jimmy Carter’s solar panels from the White House roof.

Every few years, when things get dry, environmentalists and water experts in Los Angeles shout the occasional cry into the wilderness to reconstitute a water reclamation program here in L.A. Those cries are almost always forgotten the second the rains come again.

Yet while Angelenos have childishly stuck their collective heads in the hand when it comes to seriously discussing water reclamation, our neighbors have invested in the technology. Orange County reclaims 70 million gallons of sewage daily, with plans to treat even more. San Diego, despite similar hysteria to Los Angeles against water reclamation in the 1990s, has since constructed its own water recycling plant.

Water reclamation for drinking in L.A., on the other hand, is currently at zero percent, according to an Department of Water and Power spokesperson.

A plan is in the works to change that. The DWP wants to reconstitute water reclamation at the Tillman plant and filter it into the aquifer, just like before. Doing so could reclaim up to 9.7 billion gallons of water a year.

The plan, however, isn’t scheduled to be operational until 2022.

One can’t help but wonder if Angelenos actually got behind water reclamation and made our voices heard, things would go a little faster. We also need to start demystifying toilet-to-tap sooner rather than later. When the only objection to an otherwise sensible policy is “eww, gross” — well, that isn’t good enough.

California will one day emerge from this drought. The conversation on water reclamation needs to be loud enough to continue once the rain starts falling again.

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Ha! I bet they do it and don't tell the people that they have already done it..lol

Nothing new here.

Atlantans have been drinking their own piss since 2002.

http://www.waterindustry.org/Water-Facts/recycling-5.htm
 

chucky2

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They keep telling us the "population bomb" is a hoax. Can't ever be too many people! :colbert:

Of course, they need to keep the population minimum at the level it's at now because if they don't, the economy suffers from less demand. So those that would bolster the economy at the expense...of well, anything really, they're Greeders after all...are naturally going to buy into any measure that keeps population up. The only time this is not true is if it crosses Greeders on one side of the political spectrum other ideologies, such as women can never be told no, and/or, non-white are hindered from doing whatever they want. That is a line that just can't be crossed, so, population growth is sacrificed for the "greater good"...
 

norseamd

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In 2000, Los Angeles actually completed a sewage reclamation plant capable of providing water to 120,000 homes — the Donald C. Tillman Water Reclamation Plant in Van Nuys. After being treated at the plant, reclaimed water was pumped to spreading fields near Hansen Dam, where it slowly filtered through the soil into the aquifer. (Here’s a graphic.)

fuck

some want to throw toilet water into the water supply directly after treatment and this dumbshits want to complain after it has gone through tons of soil.

as long as greywater has some time in the environment and then is treated again that is fine with me

those dumbfuck shittards
 

glenn1

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If they don't want to drink reclaimed water, LA residents can pay super-premium prices for the water of their choice. Time for some entrepreneur to really fuck them over, ahem, profit on a market opportunity.
 

norseamd

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If they don't want to drink reclaimed water, LA residents can pay super-premium prices for the water of their choice. Time for some entrepreneur to really fuck them over, ahem, profit on a market opportunity.

the water supply in california is already privately controlled and profited from
 

K1052

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When you face the same problems Israel has been facing for years, you imitate.


An israeli company is building a huge desalination plant in california. But a mind-shift needs to happen.

In my house, we collect the water from the AC, and water the garden with it. As well as water from sinks. (We use a bio-degradable soap).

You waste a lot less water that way. You also save money.

I think desal is really only appropriate after pretty much all conservation methods have been done. LA, in particular, has a lot further to go in that department. Roughly 1/3rd of their supply used to water landscaping.
 

norseamd

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I think desal is really only appropriate after pretty much all conservation methods have been done. LA, in particular, has a lot further to go in that department. Roughly 1/3rd of their supply used to water landscaping.

as far as i am aware desalination requires a lot of energy
 

OverVolt

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I guess you really do drink what you eat, at least thats how I think the saying goes.