And YOU seem to think that everyone who isn't wearing a uniform is some sort of moron. More than that, you think you are some sort of genius because you listen to the guys who are "actually there" (that happen to agree with your views).Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Remember the thread about "The Secret Letter from Iraq"?Originally posted by: BoberFett
A Marine's notes? What kind of Marine has this kind of information available to them? Is this a general or a sergeant? How does your average grunt know what's contained on a laptop they capture? How does a grunt know a particular IED is Iranian? This does indeed sound like propaganda.
The Secret Letter From Iraq
It was written by someone with a TON of rather high level information. Apparently an officer or someone working in intelligence.
You seem to think we have a bunch of morons running around in uniform, are you a friend of John Kerry's?
The fact is that many members of our military are highly intelligent and also I am sure a lot of what is learned by the brass is shared with the troops in order to give them the necessary information to stay alive.
I can see a brief where privates are told about the new IED and how they are made and what the look like. That is the kind of information that they need to stay alive.
Perhaps some of you should read new stories written by the few reporters who have been to the front lines, mostly former military personnel themselves, and see how they are written and how the soldiers act. The tone and manor of this letter is very similar to those stories.
Finally, it is amazing how you guys jump all over this and try to prove it as being propaganda. I guess you can stand the idea of anything that might disagree with the view of Iraq presented by the media. Just like Vietnam, it is not the military war we are losing, it is the political one. If we give up and leave it will not be because the military could not get their part of the job done, but because the politicians could not get their part done.
But you're right on one point, this IS a big political problem...just not the one you think it is. There are problems with this war, even the high level folks in the Pentagon (and they would know, right?) admit that. But every time someone mentions those problems, and does nothing more than ask that they be addressed, some jackass jumps out of the woodwork and asks them why they hate America, or produces some snotty letter from someone who may or may not be in the military and may or may not know which end of the rifle to point at the bad guys as absolute proof that everything said by the media, experts inside and outside the military, and the general public is dead wrong. But WE'RE the ones rejecting reality because we're paying attention to the entire media and military experts and leaders instead of basing our entire viewpoint off some random letter from god only knows who. Is that the system?
The political problem isn't us, it's you. The problem with the Iraq war is that a group of people in this country has decided that the best way to run a war is through politics, through rejection of reality in favor of imagining that wishes can become reality if you just believe hard enough. Only it's not the opposition, it's the people running the war. From day one those morons decided that the best defense against reality was ignorance, and they ran the war like they were being helped by Harry Potter and his magic wand. And you people have been right there with them, ready to furiously attack ANYONE who dares to question the dogma that we will win the war because WE WILL WIN THE WAR.