from I7 3930K To Core i7-4930K ?

[brandon888]

Does it worth to jump from I7 3930K To Core i7-4930K ?
All you know that performance difference will be like 10-15% at max .... but i have PCI 3.0 Mobo , P9X79 and can't use 3.0 Cause of sandy cpu ....

so how do you think guys ... does it worth to get PCI 3.0 and 10-15% performance advantage over I7 3930K for extra 100-150$ if i sell my I7 3930K?



Wrong section ... moderator please put that thread on CPUs and Overclocking


Maybe that will sound impertinently but i want to run at least with midrange volta card with my cpu....

There is a rumor that volta will have like 1 TB memory bandwidth and then pci 2.0 will be 100% problem .... even for midrange volta with 600-800 GT/S .... but i think PCI 3.0 will handle it

 

[Jaydip]

This goes to CPU forum Brandon I think you should wait for Haswell-E, it is bringing huge improvements but will require a new mb.

 

[brandon888]

This goes to CPU forum Brandon I think you should wait for Haswell-E, it is bringing huge improvements but will require a new mb.

Yeah i forgot to put in on CPU forum ... really sorry


I wan't to keep my mobo and don'y think i will notice huge difference between ivy e and haswell .... sad thing is that i can't use PCI 3.0 from my mobo ....

Maybe that will sound impertinently but i want to run at least with midrange volta card with my cpu like 1060 or idk what a name it will has .... PCI 2.0 will be 100% problem for volta im sure

 

[Carfax83]

Heck no it's not worth it. And it's more like 3 to 5% difference between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge core.

Also, Sandy Bridge E does support PCI-E 3.0, just not officially. Make sure you're running the latest BIOS for your motherboard, and if that doesn't work, use the NVidia PCI-E 3.0 patch..

 

[brandon888]

Heck no it's not worth it. And it's more like 3 to 5% difference between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge core.

Also, Sandy Bridge E does support PCI-E 3.0, just not officially. Make sure you're running the latest BIOS for your motherboard, and if that doesn't work, use the NVidia PCI-E 3.0 patch..

I update to las bios from asus site i have gtx 660 now but on gpu-z it shows 2.0 16x operating ....


My mobo is asus p9 x79 (non pro) and it supports 3.0 for sure

 

[Carfax83]

I update to las bios from asus site i have gtx 660 now but on gpu-z it shows 2.0 16x operating ....


My mobo is asus p9 x79 (non pro) and it supports 3.0 for sure

Try this patch.

 

[brandon888]

Try this patch.

Thank you .. will try when i come back from work ^^ but some people said it's risky :/

 

[Carfax83]

Thank you .. will try when i come back from work ^^ but some people said it's risky :/

Well you can always uninstall it if it doesn't work. My advice is to at least try it, as it beats spending more money just to run PCI-E 3.0.

 

[Shmee]

I too would wait for Haswell E. And thread moved

 

[brandon888]

Well you can always uninstall it if it doesn't work. My advice is to at least try it, as it beats spending more money just to run PCI-E 3.0.

If it won't work ... then not a big deal but if it will damage system then well....

 

[bunnyfubbles]

are you seriously concerned about pairing an X79 rig with Volta?

dude, you should be more about waiting for Haswell-E and Maxwell, which, if we're lucky, should both be available by the end of 2014

Volta doesn't even have a tentative release...just that it will be after Maxwell...

 

[brandon888]

are you seriously concerned about pairing an X79 rig with Volta?

dude, you should be more about waiting for Haswell-E and Maxwell, which, if we're lucky, should both be available by the end of 2014

Volta doesn't even have a tentative release...just that it will be after Maxwell...

Em ... i said midrange volta card .. not high end... for example gtx 760/670 is still fine with old i7 870 but if we talk aboit high end then sure . On gtx 780 will be cpu bottleneck

Haswell - e will be more meh then ivy vs sendy .... still 5% performnce gain ... 10 at max.

 

[blackened23]

Why do you keep asking unanswerable questions? You've done this quite incessantly regarding unreleased products, probably 10+ threads you've created. You were asking about Maxwell. Now IB-E. Pretty soon it will be haswell-E.

Obviously none of these are released yet? How the HELL are we supposed to know? Christ.

 

[Eureka]

Why are you trying to make purchasing decisions now? None of the above has been released or even slated for a near release.

We can't tell you if it's worthwhile to make an upgrade because there is no data on this upgrade.

Just wait.

 

[brandon888]

It`s not so hard to predict performance .... CPU gets like 10-15 % performance .... gpus get like 30-40% performance yearly at max )

 

[crashtech]

Selling the 3930K would make the financial side of the equation look much more attractive. If it only cost $2-300 to move from SB-E to IB-E, would that change any minds?

 

[blackened23]

It`s not so hard to predict performance .... CPU gets like 10-15 % performance .... gpus get like 30-40% performance yearly at max )

What do you mean it's not hard to predict performance? If you're so great at looking into a crystal ball with regard to unreleased products, DONT ask us.

No offense, but you're wasting forum space asking unanswerable questions. Every thread I've ever seen you create has been something ridiculous about purchasing recommendations for an unreleased product - How can we make a recommendation when no data on pricing or performance is available? Such as your thread on Maxwell and PCI-e 3.0. Come on dude. WE DON'T KNOW. ASK ABOUT A RELEASED PRODUCT WITH AVAILABLE DATA. You've done this frequently.

 

[brandon888]

What do you mean it's not hard to predict performance? If you're so great at looking into a crystal ball with regard to unreleased products, DONT ask us.

No offense, but you're wasting forum space asking unanswerable questions. Every thread I've ever seen you create has been something ridiculous about purchasing recommendations for an unreleased product - How can we make a recommendation when no data on pricing or performance is available? Such as your thread on Maxwell and PCI-e 3.0. Come on dude. WE DON'T KNOW. ASK ABOUT A RELEASED PRODUCT WITH AVAILABLE DATA. You've done this frequently.

OK can you answer me on one simple question ? how much memory bandwwidth of GPU can handle PCI 2.0 at max ? and how much PCI 3.0 ? OR even that is unknown ? I mean bandwidth of single GPU in GT/S ....

as know PCI 2.0 has no bottleneck even with TItan/780 and they have 288Gt/S bandwidth .. but what is absolute maximum that PCi 2.0 can handle it with no bottleneck with single card ? and how me actually can calcualte it ?

 

[RussianSensation]

OK can you answer me on one simple question ? how much memory bandwwidth of GPU can handle PCI 2.0 at max ? and how much PCI 3.0 ? OR even that is unknown ? I mean bandwidth of single GPU in GT/S ....

This is irrelevant anyway since there are no next generation GPUs on 20nm in 2013. When Maxwell / Volcanic Islands 20nm come out in 2014, we'll have a better idea. By that point we'll have Haswell-E / Haswell refresh. In other words, blackened23 is 100% correct - you keep asking the same questions that all lead to the same conclusion -- until next gen GPUs are released, who cares about maximum bandwidth PCIe 2.0 x16 can handle? We won't know until we test the GPU in the real world, especially since NV and AMD's cards are react differently.

Also, there is no way 4930K is 10-15% faster than 3930K in games. Once again, you are focused on the wrong thing for gaming. Your GPU is going to be low-end in 2014 but yet you are talking about upgrading to a $500 CPU. Titan is 77-83% faster and works just fine on PCIe 2.0 x16.
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-im-test/3/

Just stop worrying about your CPU/PCIe 2.0 already. We have already answered this question for you. Your GPU will be the weakest link for another 2 generations at least.

 

[moonbogg]

Predict I may, predict I might, Ivy-E is in my crystal ball tonight!
TIM-less this! TIM-less that! A chip from heaven, with solder at that!
A Ghz here, A Ghz there, 4.6 minimums everywhere!
Templess days and templess nights, 70c @ load! Your future is bright!

 

[nanaki333]

i'm all for getting the latest and greatest... but i'm not even going to bother with this. 3-5% is not worth it, unless they did the same clocks at a lower TDP.

 

[Remobz]

This thread is pointless.

 

[crashtech]

No one had any problem speculating about Haswell's performance and recommending waiting for it even though nobody knew how well it would perform. I don't see a big difference between that and speculating about Ivy-E, other than most users here would not spring for a 2011 system regardless.

 

[brandon888]

well forget .... used patch from Nvidia ... now card runs on pci 3.0 so no worries .. hope it won't damage my system ...

 

[tweakboy]

Your not going to see a difference if you go from 3930k and 4930k
Your throwing your money away.

Could I ask what your doing with the cores currently on your 3930k ? You do DAW or heavy video editing ? your waisting cores and threads already with your 3930k , why you wanna throw that money away,, Buy a SSD with that money. gl