hotwire... even when it only runs for a few secs, just hit the power button and it will stay on. Change in bios to poweron after a/c power loss. Muskie, tell your friend to make sure he hasnt got all his stuff plugged in. Try it with just ram, hdd, floppy, video card, and cd-rom. I've had several occasions where boards would not boot becuase they had a sound card in them or a scsi card in them. After that first boot, everything was fine, just wouldnt start that first time with em. Also, make sure the power switch "clicks". I spent an hour last night pulling the front off of a new case because it had been banged around by UPS (pronounced oops) and the switch was damaged. Slapped in another switch and the puteys fine.