Friend just bought a brand new Honda Civic Type R GT, and I?ve just taken it for a spin?.

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FilmCamera

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOL at you thinking a a type R gt's engine sounds good. To me it sounds like an electric motor on a dust buster. :p

Yet it still sounds better than a Mustang. ;)

Are you serious?

Yes I bet he is. It mainly sounds better because, well, you know...it actually starts and runs.
 

xSeongminx

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Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOL at you thinking a a type R gt's engine sounds good. To me it sounds like an electric motor on a dust buster. :p

Yet it still sounds better than a Mustang. ;)

Are you serious?

Yes I bet he is. It mainly sounds better because, well, you know...it actually starts and runs.

Haha. Also, I don't think that he cares what you think SVT... You're really biased towards American Muscle and there is nothing wrong with that, but don't you think it's alittle childish to shoot down people's opinion in favor of your own?
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: RichUK
Well, it looks quite nice and the engine sounds amazing, but I can't say I'm overly impressed with the performance.

The best bit about this car is the fact that it revs past 8k rpm. It?s simply immense how the engine pulls as it does at that high of an RPM, the fun just starts at 6k rpm.

The car is very nice all round, just needs a few more horses under the bonnet. He only had the standard 18inch wheels, it?s a shame he didn?t have the 19inch wheels as they look much better.

How is revving to 8k RPM a good thing if you admit that you're not impressed by the performance?

Have a little think about what you have said, and what I have already said (throughout the thread), and come back to me if you still don?t understand.

The word ?performance? was used as a generalisation of a whole. ;)
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You took a brand new car up to redline? :thumbsdown:

BTW-Try a Lotus Elise. It makes 190hp and revs to over 8,000 rpms but weighs about 1900lbs. There is no shortage of power or performance on that car! Oh, and it has 16" wheels. :thumbsup:

Edit-Yes, I mentioned the Lotus Elise again...those of you who don't like it can bite me. :p

Downside? Hit ANYTHING at 5mph and the car is toast. :p The car is 1900lbs because it has no structural stability...the car is mostly fiberglass. Not something I'd feel safe in, no matter how good a driver I am.

Remind me what a Z06 is made from again...
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: johnnq1
20 grand...he could have bought one of these!
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?r...rs=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=0

He paid £16,000, so that's about $32,000.

If those cars were readily available over here, and if I didn?t already have a company car, I would be so tempted to purchase a corvette (albeit a new or used one, depending on what I could afford).

I just love the way the corvette looks, and a sub 4s 0-60 time is crazy.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: johnnq1
20 grand...he could have bought one of these!
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?r...rs=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=0

He paid £16,000, so that's about $32,000.

If those cars were readily available over here, and if I didn?t already have a company car, I would be so tempted to purchase a corvette (albeit a new or used one, depending on what I could afford).

I just love the way the corvette looks, and a sub 4s 0-60 time is crazy.

'Vettes are easy to get over in the UK. they are all LHD, obviously, but they are here. Wonder why peple don't buy them...
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: johnnq1
20 grand...he could have bought one of these!
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?r...rs=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=0

He paid £16,000, so that's about $32,000.

If those cars were readily available over here, and if I didn?t already have a company car, I would be so tempted to purchase a corvette (albeit a new or used one, depending on what I could afford).

I just love the way the corvette looks, and a sub 4s 0-60 time is crazy.

'Vettes are easy to get over in the UK. they are all LHD, obviously, but they are here. Wonder why peple don't buy them...

True, I've only ever seen one on the road.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

Here's some info for you biased guys.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30015

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...

You're losing credibility with every post. Sure, you could take a cheap ass'd Honda econobox and drop a K16-whatthefvckever into it and maybe you'll be able to beat a real sports car that costs quite a bit more (assuming, of course, that you actually know how to drive it) but really, who gives a fvck? You're not going to impress the chicks with a beat up old honda...ever...no matter how many wings you slap on it or how many interior body panels you paint. And it is a certainty that nobody who owns a Ferrari is going to race you anyway.

Get over yourself.

BTW-I'd take the Supercharged Cobra over a souped up Honda econobox anyday. Hell, a Cobra at least has some class. If I were going to spend Cobra money though my personal preference would be a Lotus Elise. :thumbsup:;)

My oh my, people are getting more illiterate now days. Please, someone, anyone, show me where I said that the Z06 was crap. Please!

I never said that the Civic is better than a Z06. It's not. I was simply arguing that it can be JUST AS FAST!!! Also, as to the comments on which car you would take, any person in their right mind would take the Z06, Cobra, or Ferrari (I can't believe that some fvcktard came up with the idea that someone would take the Civic over the Ferrari)... Holy hell, getting information through your guys' thick skull is like yelling at a wall. At least the wall won't leave stupid comments or make up dumb assumptions...

You guys just can't face the facts that a car worth $6k can be just as quick (FOR THE IDIOTS, I SAID QUICK AND NOTHING ELSE) as your $60k car...

Actually you are the illiterate one, I never said my Cobra handles well. I said a z06 does. LOL at you not even knowing what nueatral steering is. LOL

BTW as for parts flying off your a dumbass....either way I'll still see you in my rearview mirror Rice box.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOL at you thinking a a type R gt's engine sounds good. To me it sounds like an electric motor on a dust buster. :p

Yet it still sounds better than a Mustang. ;)

Are you serious?

Yes I bet he is. It mainly sounds better because, well, you know...it actually starts and runs.

Haha. Also, I don't think that he cares what you think SVT... You're really biased towards American Muscle and there is nothing wrong with that, but don't you think it's alittle childish to shoot down people's opinion in favor of your own?

Rice rice baby...Film Camera is a troll, as he has always been. Rich misquoted dumbasses.
 

alimoalem

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Rice rice baby...Film Camera is a troll, as he has always been. Rich misquoted dumbasses.

i haven't been following this thread...just skipped to the last page. i'm thinking that most of the people with half a brain have stopped posting by now (to those that enjoy misquoting, notice i said most).

SVT, cobras do you have more class than hondas, they do perform better (stock at least), but mustangs do have a tendency to want to be in the shop.

and whoever's arguing about neutral steering, anything can do a "90 degree" turn, it just matters how big the radius is. if you want to make arguments, make something worthwhile.

i admit i don't know a whole lot about cars but the things you guys say embarrass me (assuming no one was misquoted). i'm not saying i don't know anything, i'm just saying i wouldn't go to a jeopardy for cars. if you don't know something, don't talk. if you do know something, still don't talk; it won't be worth your time in this thread
 
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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You took a brand new car up to redline? :thumbsdown:

BTW-Try a Lotus Elise. It makes 190hp and revs to over 8,000 rpms but weighs about 1900lbs. There is no shortage of power or performance on that car! Oh, and it has 16" wheels. :thumbsup:

Edit-Yes, I mentioned the Lotus Elise again...those of you who don't like it can bite me. :p

Downside? Hit ANYTHING at 5mph and the car is toast. :p The car is 1900lbs because it has no structural stability...the car is mostly fiberglass. Not something I'd feel safe in, no matter how good a driver I am.


yeah its a small low car, if you crash into the back of a pick up or something well you'll get a mouth full of chassis lol

but the lotus does not have a lack of structural stability. what a load of BS.


Originally posted by: Ronin
Pffft....my Z06 > that Euro crap. :D

oh the ****** irony.

you just went on about not wanting to be in a ligth sports car made of fibreglass becuase its got no structural stability, and yet you drive a sports car which curiously enough has been made out of fibreglass and light weight materials for its entire life.

either your telling porkies or you just do not like the fact that the lotus is also good sports car because its somehow offensive to you and your vette, that a plucky group of talented engineers from the UK can produced a properly sorted two seater sports car before the Z06 even arrived. (elise goes back to 98-97)
 
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Originally posted by: chusteczka
Originally posted by: RichUK
Topic Title: Friend just bought a brand new Honda Civic Type R GT, and I?ve just taken it for a spin?.
Topic Summary: Hmm.. You gotta love the sound of the engine from idle all the way upto 8,000 rpm

The best bit about this car is the fact that it revs past 8k rpm. It?s simply immense how the engine pulls as it does at that high of an RPM, the fun just starts at 6k rpm.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You took a brand new car up to redline? :thumbsdown:
Originally posted by: Geocentricity
Good job fubaring your friend's engine :thumbsup:

A friend trusts you with his brand new car and you abuse it in such an extreme manner?
Then you brag about your action with no concern for your friend or his new car and the damage you caused?
I am amazed at the displayed lack of consideration.

Oh but it sounds nice! :disgust:

I realize many people do not believe in the need to slowly break-in a new engine but this action is too extreme.



its a honda V-tec, you know the success rate of these engines their reliability is impossibly good, it'll be completely fine. im sure honda arent so stupid as to think anyone who buys a type R isnt going to floor it from the dealer ship.
 
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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: chusteczka
Originally posted by: RichUK
Topic Title: Friend just bought a brand new Honda Civic Type R GT, and I?ve just taken it for a spin?.
Topic Summary: Hmm.. You gotta love the sound of the engine from idle all the way upto 8,000 rpm

The best bit about this car is the fact that it revs past 8k rpm. It?s simply immense how the engine pulls as it does at that high of an RPM, the fun just starts at 6k rpm.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You took a brand new car up to redline? :thumbsdown:
Originally posted by: Geocentricity
Good job fubaring your friend's engine :thumbsup:

A friend trusts you with his brand new car and you abuse it in such an extreme manner?
Then you brag about your action with no concern for your friend or his new car and the damage you caused?
I am amazed at the displayed lack of consideration.

Oh but it sounds nice! :disgust:

I realize many people do not believe in the need to slowly break-in a new engine but this action is too extreme.

First of all, he was quite comfortable in me pushing the engine, in fact he told me to go ahead and boot it, so naturally I did.

Second of all, try to have an idea of what you are talking about before you come up with a post like that.

These engines have already been sufficiently run in before complete production of the car.
The only thing that requires any remote kind of ?run in? period by the end user, is the gearbox, and to a certain extent the clutch. The brakes will need bedding in from new too.

Just for you information, these cars are fairly cheap, especially with the discount he received. He paid around ~£16,000. I believe Hondas hold their value better than their nearest rivals, so he shouldn?t have a problem selling the car either. He?ll only be keeping the car for a maximum of 2 years, and the warranty that comes with the car is either 3 years or 90,000 miles.

Ohh, and BTW, I?m hardly bragging about driving a Civic Type R. I?ve driven cars that are far more powerful, including my own car.

Of course you would have realised this, had you read and understood anything past the topic title/summary.

It?s ok kid, you will learn.

i recall jaguar used to run their XJ V12's in for over 24 hours at a decent load before they even made it to the car.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Rice rice baby...Film Camera is a troll, as he has always been. Rich misquoted dumbasses.

i haven't been following this thread...just skipped to the last page. i'm thinking that most of the people with half a brain have stopped posting by now (to those that enjoy misquoting, notice i said most).

SVT, cobras do you have more class than hondas, they do perform better (stock at least), but mustangs do have a tendency to want to be in the shop.

and whoever's arguing about neutral steering, anything can do a "90 degree" turn, it just matters how big the radius is. if you want to make arguments, make something worthwhile.

i admit i don't know a whole lot about cars but the things you guys say embarrass me (assuming no one was misquoted). i'm not saying i don't know anything, i'm just saying i wouldn't go to a jeopardy for cars. if you don't know something, don't talk. if you do know something, still don't talk; it won't be worth your time in this thread

Have you ever been to a race track???? Do you guys even know waht under/over steer means and how it effects lap times???
 

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOL at you thinking a a type R gt's engine sounds good. To me it sounds like an electric motor on a dust buster. :p

Yet it still sounds better than a Mustang. ;)

you want a nice contemporary HSV or FPV V8 ;)

QFT.....with supercharger......I just love the whistle of mine as it winds out....lol
 

alimoalem

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Rice rice baby...Film Camera is a troll, as he has always been. Rich misquoted dumbasses.

i haven't been following this thread...just skipped to the last page. i'm thinking that most of the people with half a brain have stopped posting by now (to those that enjoy misquoting, notice i said most).

SVT, cobras do you have more class than hondas, they do perform better (stock at least), but mustangs do have a tendency to want to be in the shop.

and whoever's arguing about neutral steering, anything can do a "90 degree" turn, it just matters how big the radius is. if you want to make arguments, make something worthwhile.

i admit i don't know a whole lot about cars but the things you guys say embarrass me (assuming no one was misquoted). i'm not saying i don't know anything, i'm just saying i wouldn't go to a jeopardy for cars. if you don't know something, don't talk. if you do know something, still don't talk; it won't be worth your time in this thread

Have you ever been to a race track???? Do you guys even know waht under/over steer means and how it effects lap times???

yea i do know what under/over steer is. you've got some issues thinking just cause you know some words means you know something. i never questioned your knowledge, don't question mine.

and i'm not sure what dumbass quotes someone without using the quoted post for an argument. what exactly do you have against my post? that cobras have more class than hondas? they perform better stock? or that they're in the shop more often? you can BS all you want, it's a statistical truth mustangs are in the shop more often than civics. go ask your mechanic.

you and me both know if you're in an alleyway trying to pull into a perpendicular one there's no way you'll be doing it at a 100. that's still a 90 degree turn. just saying you can do a turn at a 100 doesn't mean anything cause at the other extreme, freeways do curve 90 degrees in some areas. *hint* read between the lines

i'm not even sure where your lap times comment fits in but whatever. you've got a nice car that i wouldn't ever buy, but it's still nice. enjoy driving it. stop reading up on car comparisons. eventually the truth'll get to you that there were better options in the performance realm of things. just tell yourself you didn't buy it just for the performance and leave it at that
 

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Ok so the search function sucks balls here. I am kinda lost as to what the Civic Type R GT is. Is this sold in the US? I know of the ITR that some people have mentioned. I am not a complete n00b when it comes to Japanese performance cars, I'm jsut a lil lost here. -.-
 

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I would have gotten a civic for a good deal. They are just way too common here.

Lots of comparisons of high end torque FWD cars to low end torque RWD cars...

I own both and its night and day differences yet they are both equally quick.

I also enjoy both the deep tone of the v8 and the fun "non-mosquitoed" 4 cylinder whine and putter.

To be honest the Ferraris in my parents neighborhood are louder and more annoying than the high school ricers.

The camaro SS i used to hear drive by has to be one of the better sounds imho.

There was a guy that had a cobra that we would call JCWhitney because it looked like he had like every accessory that you can think of.
 

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Originally posted by: Dudewithoutapet
Ok so the search function sucks balls here. I am kinda lost as to what the Civic Type R GT is. Is this sold in the US? I know of the ITR that some people have mentioned. I am not a complete n00b when it comes to Japanese performance cars, I'm jsut a lil lost here. -.-
No, it has not been sold here. Only in Europe and Asia. We only get the Si, which has a less tuned suspension, weighs more, and has less HP.

 

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Ronin
http://www.z06zone.com/media-videos/Fifth-Gear-C6-Z06.avi

Just yummy. :D

Looking at the Maserati now.

Pity I have to wait for my 'Stingray' for so long. :(

Ok, I have to share this one, too.

http://www.z06zone.com/media-videos/Top-Gear-C6Z06.avi

I've never actually tried this, but I might just have to now. :p (starting out from a dead stop in 5th gear).

Just watched the vid. That's a very nice car, and very quick. I've always liked Corvettes.

I want that Vette so bad...Love the valves in the exhaust...0-150 in 5th only is FREAKIN AWESOME!

Amazing torque demonstration, but that just cannot be good for the clutch.

Exactly. I could take off in 4th gear in my '70 Nova SS (350) with 3.55 gears but my clutch didn't like it.
 

exdeath

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No, there is something that sounds better...

A cammed 32V V8 spinning up to 6K with a blower spinning at 15K =D
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

Here's some info for you biased guys.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30015

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...

Uhm '03 Cobra's can handle quite well, even in stock form... factory IRS and all that... yeah... Stop comparing 2007 BMWs to 1950's American cars when making your basis for 'American cars can't handle'. I will give you that the Cobra is however, the exception, and not the general rule...

And for every video link you post, I can dig up a few on streetfire.net that show '03 Cobra's hanging out with Corvettes and BMWs on road courses at the front of the pack, and sometimes even overtaking them. Not bad for a 30 year old outdated chassis design huh...

It's not the best handling car in the world by any means, but it certainly isn't the 1950s barge with leaf springs you import people think they are.

And I'd like to ask, why is it 'handling' and 'twisties' is brought up when comparing cars of drastically different power levels? I mean, some Civic could start it with me on a light at a 2 into 1 merge on a straight as far as the eye can see, revving and creeping and preparing to take me on a straight, then when I blow his ass out of the water by a few city blocks, and he'd most likely tell me how is car handles better and my still car sucks hah... 'twisties' is just a fall back for people with weak cars and they know it. :roll: Funny how the people that cry 'oh but the twisties' are the ones who have never seen a road course in their life and try to race people at stoplights in their 150 HP FWD 4 bangers.

If you really wanted a car for the twisties you'd be driving a MR2 Turbo or a Boxster S, both cars have a decent set of balls and the ultimate in 'gokart on rails' twistie handling that only a mid engine RWD chassis can provide. FWD in a performance car is a bad idea, for drag racing, for drifting, for cornering, for anything other than your mom driving safely in the snow in a non performance car. It doesn't matter if you have 1000 HP under the hood. Even the real Japanese racers that the ricers adore so much are driving AE86s, etc, cars that are RWD.

And for the record, in case it seems like I'm picking on imports, I'm not, just rice and ricers. To me a fast civic is a mid 90s > 2200 lb Si hatch with 400+ HP on 93 oct. Though if you want a real import Japanese sports car, get a MR2 Turbo or a Supra. 3SGTE and 2JZGTE ftw!

BTW for the Honda people here (serious question for real car people here and not ricers), what is the Honda equivilent of engines like Toyota's 3SGTE? Could I get a paragraph summary on the ultimate Honda engine? K22? GSR heads? *shrug* I don't know a thing about Honda engines. If someone asked me about Toyota, I'd say 3SGTE, period, end of story, look no further, etc.
 

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I like the Euro-spec Civics a lot better. Not a fan of the conservative American version's look.

 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
LOL at you thinking a a type R gt's engine sounds good. To me it sounds like an electric motor on a dust buster. :p

Yet it still sounds better than a Mustang. ;)

Are you serious?

Why not... regular mustangs and GTs? Remember, our '03 Cobras are the exception not the rule. What applies to the badassedness that is the Terminator does not apply to other Mustangs... it really is another car entirely. Thanks John Colletti.

A real high performance 4 banger actually sounds more like a throaty sport bike on crack than that bumble bee crap that is so popular with the ricers... I love the sound of a all out race cammed 2.0L MR2 sounding like a idling sport bike (or chainsaw) bouncing off the lower rev limit and about to stall out haha. Sounds like a turbocharged sputtering chainsaw with bad gas... in stereo.