Friend just bought a brand new Honda Civic Type R GT, and I?ve just taken it for a spin?.

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Aikouka

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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Its a VTEC, you can abuse the crap out of it, and it just keep coming back. That's exactly why you would buy a Honda....

You'd think these people have never heard of VVT >_>.
 

AdamK47

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gsellis
On a Type-R, the engines in the Integra were hand built in parts of the stages. The pistons, connecting rods, and values were matched and balanced. I would assume that the tradition continued in the CTR.

As for the redline on the new car, I think it was one of the chief engineers that mentioned "break it in like you will drive it." His car had a 10k redline on his JDM ITR (which would be getting closer to mechanical - but he could fix it ;) .)

And yes, the "R" cars sound great. Because of the cam profile change in VTEC, when others are starting to wheeze, it gets throatier at higher revs. The ITR at 8500 was music. That's why I like the NA 4.6l Cobra engine, revs and it breaths well. And the C7 finally does not sound like a boat! I actually, finally, like a vette of the showroom floor (bumper to front glass finally is a win in looks for me).

Where have you seen a C7?
 

Mellman

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You took a brand new car up to redline? :thumbsdown:

Some people think this is the PROPER and ONLY way to break in a motor.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?
 

xSeongminx

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: AdamK47
Originally posted by: gsellis
On a Type-R, the engines in the Integra were hand built in parts of the stages. The pistons, connecting rods, and values were matched and balanced. I would assume that the tradition continued in the CTR.

As for the redline on the new car, I think it was one of the chief engineers that mentioned "break it in like you will drive it." His car had a 10k redline on his JDM ITR (which would be getting closer to mechanical - but he could fix it ;) .)

And yes, the "R" cars sound great. Because of the cam profile change in VTEC, when others are starting to wheeze, it gets throatier at higher revs. The ITR at 8500 was music. That's why I like the NA 4.6l Cobra engine, revs and it breaths well. And the C7 finally does not sound like a boat! I actually, finally, like a vette of the showroom floor (bumper to front glass finally is a win in looks for me).

Where have you seen a C7?

GRRRR.... C6, C6, C6... My fingers roam.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: RichUK
That's my fault. Don?t get me wrong I do like your car, I just prefer the sound of a euro V8.

are bmw V8s cross plane? i'm guessing they are. i know MB, jaguar, and aston martin V8s are.
 

RichUK

Lifer
Feb 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RichUK
That's my fault. Don?t get me wrong I do like your car, I just prefer the sound of a euro V8.

are bmw V8s cross plane? i'm guessing they are. i know MB, jaguar, and aston martin V8s are.

I wouldn't know to be honest.

 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RichUK
That's my fault. Don?t get me wrong I do like your car, I just prefer the sound of a euro V8.
are bmw V8s cross plane? i'm guessing they are. i know MB, jaguar, and aston martin V8s are.
I wouldn't know to be honest.
BMW V8's are cross-plane and always have been. IIRC, only Ferrari and a few other exotics still have flat-plane V8s in their production cars.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

Hilarious. :laugh:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RichUK
That's my fault. Don?t get me wrong I do like your car, I just prefer the sound of a euro V8.

are bmw V8s cross plane? i'm guessing they are. i know MB, jaguar, and aston martin V8s are.

I wouldn't know to be honest.
they almost certainly are.

my point being, that you can't really call a flat plane V8 a euro V8 when the vast majority of european V8s are cross plane.
 

RichUK

Lifer
Feb 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: RichUK
That's my fault. Don?t get me wrong I do like your car, I just prefer the sound of a euro V8.

are bmw V8s cross plane? i'm guessing they are. i know MB, jaguar, and aston martin V8s are.

I wouldn't know to be honest.

they almost certainly are.

my point being, that you can't really call a flat plane V8 a euro V8 when the vast majority of european V8s are cross plane.

Good point. ;)

My point, however misconstrued it was, was that I prefer the sound of Ferrari twin bank engines, whom happen to be of a European origin, and also happen to use flat plane engines.

But yes, I understand where you are coming from.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Ronin
Downside? Hit ANYTHING at 5mph and the car is toast. :p The car is 1900lbs because it has no structural stability...the car is mostly fiberglass. Not something I'd feel safe in, no matter how good a driver I am.

Do you get into accidents on a regular basis or something? If you want safety, ride the bus, don't buy sports cars;)

Then again, I ride a motorcycle, so maybe my idea of "acceptible risk" is a little skewed.

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I think it's sexy as hell and for carving corners it's very very hard to beat. It's a pure drivers car...they don't get any purer IMO.

Not even the Atom?

Well, I haven't driven the Atom so I can't comment on the performance but in the looks department I think the Lotus kills the Atom. Atom=Ugly.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me
 

xSeongminx

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

Here's some info for you biased guys.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30015

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

Here's some info for you biased guys.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30015

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...

You're losing credibility with every post. Sure, you could take a cheap ass'd Honda econobox and drop a K16-whatthefvckever into it and maybe you'll be able to beat a real sports car that costs quite a bit more (assuming, of course, that you actually know how to drive it) but really, who gives a fvck? You're not going to impress the chicks with a beat up old honda...ever...no matter how many wings you slap on it or how many interior body panels you paint. And it is a certainty that nobody who owns a Ferrari is going to race you anyway.

Get over yourself.

BTW-I'd take the Supercharged Cobra over a souped up Honda econobox anyday. Hell, a Cobra at least has some class. If I were going to spend Cobra money though my personal preference would be a Lotus Elise. :thumbsup:;)
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Well, it looks quite nice and the engine sounds amazing, but I can't say I'm overly impressed with the performance.

The best bit about this car is the fact that it revs past 8k rpm. It?s simply immense how the engine pulls as it does at that high of an RPM, the fun just starts at 6k rpm.

The car is very nice all round, just needs a few more horses under the bonnet. He only had the standard 18inch wheels, it?s a shame he didn?t have the 19inch wheels as they look much better.

How is revving to 8k RPM a good thing if you admit that you're not impressed by the performance?
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: xSeongminx

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...
Dude, you are dreaming. Before you discount what I am saying, know that I drive a Prelude and owned 97 Integra Type-R #86, and a fan of TOV. A Cobra and a Z06 are fairly neutral (but have factory built-in understeer for safety of the clueless). Most Civics understeer and it is really hard to dial out. The ITR understeered a little, but a little throttle tweaking got the end to rotate (and you could hold the tail out). And BS on the NA Honda taking out the supercharged Cobra. I can call that one. I could beat a NA 97 era Cobra to 1/4 if the driver was clueless. When it got to about 120, the Cobra's extra HP would pull on me and on by. The Supercharged Cobra would smoke the 200HP Honda.

JulesMaximus, since you never have driven an ITR, CTR, or a NSX, don't be so final. Remember that the first Elises were brought into the US by Sun Intl with an engine swap to the JDM Integra Type-R engine. Imagine your car with 195hp at 8400rpms and fuel cutoff limiter at 8900rpm :) And there is a funny Youtube drag between an ITR and I think a 360. The ITR guys loved getting smoked because the noise both 8500rpm engines made was too cool.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: xSeongminx

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...
Dude, you are dreaming. Before you discount what I am saying, know that I drive a Prelude and owned 97 Integra Type-R #86, and a fan of TOV. A Cobra and a Z06 are fairly neutral (but have factory built-in understeer for safety of the clueless). Most Civics understeer and it is really hard to dial out. The ITR understeered a little, but a little throttle tweaking got the end to rotate (and you could hold the tail out). And BS on the NA Honda taking out the supercharged Cobra. I can call that one. I could beat a NA 97 era Cobra to 1/4 if the driver was clueless. When it got to about 120, the Cobra's extra HP would pull on me and on by. The Supercharged Cobra would smoke the 200HP Honda.

JulesMaximus, since you never have driven an ITR, CTR, or a NSX, don't be so final. Remember that the first Elises were brought into the US by Sun Intl with an engine swap to the JDM Integra Type-R engine. Imagine your car with 195hp at 8400rpms and fuel cutoff limiter at 8900rpm :) And there is a funny Youtube drag between an ITR and I think a 360. The ITR guys loved getting smoked because the noise both 8500rpm engines made was too cool.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I love the sound that little 1.8l Toyota engine in the Elise makes at 8k rpm. It absolutely screams! And it goes fast to boot! But a Civic? Come on...let's be real here. You might get a Civic to shine on the drag strip if you put a hot motor in it and strip out the interior and only run it in the 1/4 mile but get it out on a real road course and a Ferrari would eat it alive.
 

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Once again, a car thread has devolved into everyone saying every other car is better.

FFS, each car has it's own pros and cons, leave it at that.

Yes, of course the status symbol of a Ferrari is better then a civic

Yes, a Corvette gets more recognition then a civic

No, your opinions are not law. Just leave people be. If you want to argue about domestics vs. imports or exotics vs. modded cars go over to Streetfire. There's always some video sparking a debate that revolves around "lololol turbos on a Honda pwn V8's" and "my V6 Camaro can smoke any import".

Damn people, grow up.
 

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hey, don't get me wrong, I love the sound that little 1.8l Toyota engine in the Elise makes at 8k rpm. It absolutely screams! And it goes fast to boot! But a Civic? Come on...let's be real here. You might get a Civic to shine on the drag strip if you put a hot motor in it and strip out the interior and only run it in the 1/4 mile but get it out on a real road course and a Ferrari would eat it alive.
Hop up a Ferrari like the Honda and it will win at the strip. But, not all road course are created equal. There are club courses and Solo courses that a modded Civic could handle the Ferrari on. A GT3 Honda is faster than a Stock Ferrari. at Road Atlanta last time I remember.

Edit - If I win tomorrow's lottery, I cannot decide if I get the 599, a 430, or a F50 or Enzo. Ferrari V12's rule (OMG, the Tubi video is still a fav).

Edit edit - and yes, I know a 430 is an 8. Best handling Ferrari ever.
 

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: xSeongminx
Originally posted by: Vic
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have obviously not seen the potential of the LS-series motor. Rice on, dude, rice on.

Ok, I'm going to be honest, it's very hard to get simple information through your head... I never said that the B18A/B series were weak did I? I simply said that a K-series in an EG or EK with a turbo would keep up with a Z06... What's with the "rice on" comment? It's people like you that can't come up with anything other to say except "rice" when they can't admit that they don't know jack about cars...

I'm not sure if you know this since you only seem to know about "rice" (I'm guessing your Integra had a body kit, neon lights, and some fat wing off of a 747) but LS Vtec motors (B16, B18 Vtec head on a B18A/B bottom end) have VERY large potential as well. The sleeves, rods, and pistons on even stock LS's have been proven to handle 300whp with a conservative tune... Heck, you could say that 95% of Honda motors produced have good potential... I bet you didn't know that Honda has never had any problems with their Vtec system huh? You learned something new... Please, keep on posting comments. I find this entertaining.

Did I say anything about LS-VTEC frankensteins?

:confused:

LS series engine

:roll:

The Z06 makes 505 hp on the factory tune, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 1/4-mile in 11.9 @ 125, top speed of 196 mph, and gets better than 20 mpg on the highway. It did the Nurburgring in 7:43 in production form (11 seconds faster than a race-prepped Skyline GT-R).

BTW, I currently own a stage 4 WRX that I did all the wrenching on myself. I think I know cars. The "rice" attitude isn't about modding Japanese imports. The "rice" attitude is a punk thinking his Civic can go up against cars that are way beyond its league.
The Z06 is a supercar that has been proven to be more than able to go toe-to-toe with exotics costing 3 times its price. You wouldn't suggest your Civic could go up against a Ferrari would you?

?!? Didn't I say that the Z06 had great bang for buck for performance?!? As to the comment for the Z06 running on the track, nice, it's faster than a coupe that pumps out 280HP and 271LB's of TQ :roll:. The Z06 pushes out almost double the power...

I don't drive a Civic, but yes, I can see a Civic going against a Ferrari. There is potential in different cars other than Civic's, such as Evo's, WRX's, even Mazda 323's... Your attitude is that there is no Civic in the world that would be able to compete with a Z06. You would be surprised what 400WHP in a 2000LB car would net you...

And last, anyone would take the Z06 over the Civic. Hmm..., I think that I recall saying that the cars are of different class somewhere... Hmm..., I don't think that I ever said anything negative about the Z06 either... People these days...

LOL FFS man the floor of the z06 is made out of bolsa wood, stop trying to say a riced out Civic could take a stock z06...no way.

BTW when you can go 100 around a turn with nuetral steering in your civic, give me a call...but make sure you have 911 on the speed dial before my number.


EDIT: Man I am still stunned you said a Civic could take on a Ferrari...get a clue dude...ricers like you scare me

I like how you drive a SVT Cobra and think that your car can handle. So your saying that a Z06 or your Cobra can take a turn going 100 with "neutral steering" (WTF is that)?!? For one, if it can take the turn without pieces flying off, I would be impressed. Remember, understeering and smashing into a wall isn't considered "taking a turn".

Here's some info for you biased guys.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1468850

So funny that some of you guys don't think that a Civic can't take out a Z06... Mid 12's with ONLY a swap? No way... How much does the swap cost and how much power does it make?!?

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30015

Isn't it odd that a 200whp (if that) N/A Honda can take out your POS SUPERCHARGED Cobra... Hmm...

You're losing credibility with every post. Sure, you could take a cheap ass'd Honda econobox and drop a K16-whatthefvckever into it and maybe you'll be able to beat a real sports car that costs quite a bit more (assuming, of course, that you actually know how to drive it) but really, who gives a fvck? You're not going to impress the chicks with a beat up old honda...ever...no matter how many wings you slap on it or how many interior body panels you paint. And it is a certainty that nobody who owns a Ferrari is going to race you anyway.

Get over yourself.

BTW-I'd take the Supercharged Cobra over a souped up Honda econobox anyday. Hell, a Cobra at least has some class. If I were going to spend Cobra money though my personal preference would be a Lotus Elise. :thumbsup:;)

My oh my, people are getting more illiterate now days. Please, someone, anyone, show me where I said that the Z06 was crap. Please!

I never said that the Civic is better than a Z06. It's not. I was simply arguing that it can be JUST AS FAST!!! Also, as to the comments on which car you would take, any person in their right mind would take the Z06, Cobra, or Ferrari (I can't believe that some fvcktard came up with the idea that someone would take the Civic over the Ferrari)... Holy hell, getting information through your guys' thick skull is like yelling at a wall. At least the wall won't leave stupid comments or make up dumb assumptions...

You guys just can't face the facts that a car worth $6k can be just as quick (FOR THE IDIOTS, I SAID QUICK AND NOTHING ELSE) as your $60k car...