Friend has some ES q6600's and x3220

Kassem

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Should I try to get them from him? He's not using them and owes me money.. should I compromise? Could possibly get a deal. Whats the deal with these things?
 

zagood

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As long as you identify them as being engineering samples you'll be ok.
 

aigomorla

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Ok.. bottom run down mark.

ES are very hard to sell because there engineering samples.
Most of them will behave exactly like there retail counter parts.

ES's should never be bought, because they are always on Loan from Intel.
There are people who will sell ES's but thats what we call the black market.

Intel does not like these processors to be sold via retail.

Now 90% of the forums out there will not allow the sale on the ES in FS/FT. AT does however, but your at your own risk.

Ive seen intel security buy chips on EBAY to track / trace sources. After they do that, someone gets fired, or the factory gets screwed, and the entire ES line is gone.

So be very weary of selling ES's.

General Golden Rules about ES:
1. Never tell where you got it.
2. Never get caught with it with a dollar sign next to it.
3. Never sell it to anyone you dont know.

We pass them on to others, or we destory them.
NDA holders would never be seen selling one on the open market.
 
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Gillbot

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Engineering sample processors (also known as ES processors) are not intended to be offered for sale or resale to the general public. ES processors are considered "Intel Confidential" processors and are only to be used within Intel or by AUTHORIZED personnel outside of Intel for purposes of testing, evaluating, and/or pre-configuring systems. Every ES processor that is "Loaned" outside of Intel is done so under strict contractual agreements or Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA) to assure the protection of Intel's intellectual property and the unit during the time it is "Loaned" out.

ES processors are available to those who qualify for, and obtain, an NDA. An Intel® Authorized Distributor can assist with the application to obtain an NDA. There are no other means to obtain sample processors from Intel Customer Support. Engineering sample processors are designed and built like normal processors, but offer additional features for testing purposes. These processors are not packaged or labeled for sale to consumers, and may incur damage when tested by system builders.

To determine if a processor is an engineering sample, refer to the processor markings. The Q-spec (a four-digit or five-digit code) will begin with the letter 'Q' instead of the standard letter 'S' which is used for production processors. Engineering Sample processors may also have the words ES located after the Q-spec or the words INTEL CONFIDENTIAL marked on them.

Engineering samples are not supported by Intel Customer Support and are not eligible for warranty service.

If you have received an engineering sample processor from a vendor, and you would like a production processor, contact your vendor for replacement information.


Engineering sample processors from Intel are property of Intel Corporation.

That comes straight from intel
 

hans007

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That comes straight from intel

we have bought dell servers and laptops before at work and inside were chips marked "intel confidential".


i think in general they do not care if you sell them as long as the chips have already been released. i think in practice they never take back their samples.

i have a bunch of dev systems at work from them, and after we were done using them we just used them for completely unrelated things because intel never wanted them back.
 

Gillbot

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we have bought dell servers and laptops before at work and inside were chips marked "intel confidential".


i think in general they do not care if you sell them as long as the chips have already been released. i think in practice they never take back their samples.

i have a bunch of dev systems at work from them, and after we were done using them we just used them for completely unrelated things because intel never wanted them back.

Wrong, Dell should not release them. If you read that press release, it addresses your concern specifically:
If you have received an engineering sample processor from a vendor, and you would like a production processor, contact your vendor for replacement information.
 

Kassem

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Ah, thanks for all the info everyone. Almost forgot about this thread ;P Dunno what Im gonna do with em. I would rather have nice stock chips because after thinking about it, I probably wont be overclocking TOO much, if any.