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Friend And I Considering Starting Comupter Building Bussiness

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love2skate824

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Okay, So me and one of my friends are seriously considering opening a small computer building bussiness, similar to what alienware, ibuypower, etc. do. Me and my friend are both rather knowledgeable at computers and my friend is a web design genius, so we could put up a website easily.

I just want some feedback from you guys as to which brands you would use for specific parts..

I was thinking something like this..

mb-asus
cpu-amd
gpu-evga or xfx or bfg
ram-ocz or corsair or crucial
hdd-western digital
optical-nec or benq or plextor

for cases i was thinking to offer a wide array of cases so people have a choice. than for psus probobly fortron and antec and pssibly seasonic.

so what do you guys think?

i know the whole idea is somewhat crazy but im willing to try it.

 
power supplies... (explain to customers why it's $xx more for this)

PC Power & Cooling
Fortron
Seasonic
Antec
Enermax

there are others I can add later...

NEC ND3540 DVD burner

Vantec round IDE single device cables 🙂

mobos...Asus, Abit, DFI, MSI
 
Originally posted by: love2skate824
Okay, So me and one of my friends are seriously considering opening a small computer building bussiness, similar to what alienware, ibuypower, etc. do. Me and my friend are both rather knowledgeable at computers and my friend is a web design genius, so we could put up a website easily.

I just want some feedback from you guys as to which brands you would use for specific parts..

I was thinking something like this..

mb-asus
cpu-amd
gpu-evga or xfx or bfg
ram-ocz or corsair or crucial
hdd-western digital
optical-nec or benq or plextor

for cases i was thinking to offer a wide array of cases so people have a choice. than for psus probobly fortron and antec and pssibly seasonic.

so what do you guys think?

i know the whole idea is somewhat crazy but im willing to try it.
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Mobo -Asus
CPU - AMD
Video Card - stick with eVGA or BFG, either is perfect
RAM - id have to go with OCZ
HardDrive - Seagate or Hitachi (Hitachi has the fastest 7200rpm drives, and Seagate has the most reliable......)
DVD - Benq or NEC (no reason to use plextor, your just paying more for nothing better)
PSU - Seasonic
 
Personally, unless you have the $$$ to buy in huge volumes (thats hundreds of thousands of dollars), its not worth it, and you will be outpriced by competitors.
 
Originally posted by: Hacp
Personally, unless you have the $$$ to buy in huge volumes (thats hundreds of thousands of dollars), its not worth it, and you will be outpriced by competitors.
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Yeah, computers are a commodity. Dell will be cheaper than you. Many people don't see an incentive to buy whitebox over an OEM.

BestBuy does get away with charging obscene prices to install software, hardware and troubleshoot problems.

Good luck.
 
Oh, the other brand names for power supplies although they are secondary if you know what I mean.

OCZ
Sparkle
Coolermaster
Vantec
Zalman
Tagan
Zippy/Emacs
Silverstone

I believe if you advertise the fact you don't put no-name brands in your computers, you may have a niche market. I mean, imagine if you used silent Zalman heatsinks on the CPU and northbridge chipset and used powerful, silent case fans. Some people may go for that. You don't know until you try so you can always start small.

Even I'm considering assembling some custom built computers and selling them on the net but that's just an idea.
 
Originally posted by: forumposter32
Oh, the other brand names for power supplies although they are secondary if you know what I mean.

OCZ
Sparkle
Coolermaster
Vantec
Zalman
Tagan
Zippy/Emacs
Silverstone

I believe if you advertise the fact you don't put no-name brands in your computers, you may have a niche market. I mean, imagine if you used silent Zalman heatsinks on the CPU and northbridge chipset and used powerful, silent case fans. Some people may go for that. You don't know until you try so you can always start small.

Even I'm considering assembling some custom built computers and selling them on the net but that's just an idea.
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since when are tagan, ocz, and zippy second rate??

i would take an ocz powerstream over anything except perhaps a pcp&c, even then its a toss up
 
puttting computers together and running a biz are two entirely different venues. what is your background? i like your enthusiasm, but i hate to be the a$$ that says don't waste your time. personally if your friend is that good with websites, do the webdesign stuff and market that, it will give you much less of a headache.

not trying to be a d!ck but my feeling is that the people that can't build computers should buy a dell. you are going to try to sell them higher performance machines but they probably won't understand it, and then you are going to need to be technical support for every f*ck up they make.

you read on here but this is a rather small piece of the computing pie, and most here like fast stuff. your average joe is still fine with a 1GHz Athlon to surf the net and email annoying pics of the kids to the relatives, and probably uses aol because that is "the internet" to him/her.

and to get a discount where you can actually make $$$ will require huge buys.

if you still want to do this, do some research about business plans and put one together so you at least have a roadmap of what you want to do and can see the big picture, your capital, etc. good luck 😉
 
hey guys, thanks for the awesome input.

I realize that my biggest problem would be tech support and such. But the thing is im not looking for a mainstream market. Just I see a bunch of people over here wanting to build a computer but slightly afriad. I mean, by all means they should go for it and get the joy of building your own, but if they are really not willing to build one themselves, it would be nice to give them some reasonable alternatives to other oems out there like..

alienware, voodoo, hypersonic-Way too expensive
cyberpower, Ibuypower,-not up to the standard that most expect
monarch-probobly the best out of these, but they are slow and sometimes unreliable
dell-too proprietery, charge too much for small upgrades, although they do get some nice deals.

See, im not looking at this from a real bussiness kind of view. more like a bussness thats a hobby.
 
I have done this for a few years.

I started solo and then ended up with a couple of friends helping me out on it.

You can make some money on it, but to be honest, it is REALLY difficult finding people that can understand the performance differences you offer and why yours are more expensive than a dell.

And a hint, do not stay with one brand mainboard and what not. Be constantly up to date on which parts are faster, cheaper, and of higher quality.

Good Luck.
 
You're going to have to find some way to give added value.

I would look into overclocking and things like that. Strap a nice Zalman to a Venice and OC it to 2.4Ghz giving you free extra performance. Lock the people out of the BIOS with a password so they can't go in and screw things up. With how easy/stable/reliable overclocking on some systems (DFI for instance), it shouldn't be a problem even in the long term. I wouldn't do any extreme (like pushing for 2.7/2.8 where it might fail in the summer months when the heat goes up), but a nice boost to give your stuff the extra edge at little to no added cost.

I would also consider looking into setting up a customized interface. Get used to using things like Konfabulator and other little things that a majority of people I would think don't know about.

Thats how you'll get customers. Win them over on the little stuff, as they can get the major things (a computer that works) from Dell or many other places for cheaper.

Also, look into convergence. Say you're in a college town. You'll have people in the dorms. Maybe look into a SFF that you can include a TV tuner and good speakers into (not hard at all). This way they don't need a special stereo or a TV. You might be able to sell them on a bigger monitor that way as well.



 
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
You're going to have to find some way to give added value.

I would look into overclocking and things like that. Strap a nice Zalman to a Venice and OC it to 2.4Ghz giving you free extra performance. Lock the people out of the BIOS with a password so they can't go in and screw things up. With how easy/stable/reliable overclocking on some systems (DFI for instance), it shouldn't be a problem even in the long term. I wouldn't do any extreme (like pushing for 2.7/2.8 where it might fail in the summer months when the heat goes up), but a nice boost to give your stuff the extra edge at little to no added cost.

I would also consider looking into setting up a customized interface. Get used to using things like Konfabulator and other little things that a majority of people I would think don't know about.

Thats how you'll get customers. Win them over on the little stuff, as they can get the major things (a computer that works) from Dell or many other places for cheaper.

Also, look into convergence. Say you're in a college town. You'll have people in the dorms. Maybe look into a SFF that you can include a TV tuner and good speakers into (not hard at all). This way they don't need a special stereo or a TV. You might be able to sell them on a bigger monitor that way as well.
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these are good ideas but you will have to definately make sure the machine is both prime95 and memtest stable for 24-48hrs straight.

and also i am sure that o/cing voids a cpus warranty. it doesn't really apply to those that do it on their own stuff because there is no written record stating "3000venice o/ced to 2.4GHz"

I realize that my biggest problem would be tech support and such. But the thing is im not looking for a mainstream market. Just I see a bunch of people over here wanting to build a computer but slightly afriad. I mean, by all means they should go for it and get the joy of building your own, but if they are really not willing to build one themselves, it would be nice to give them some reasonable alternatives to other oems out there like..
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i totally agree with you but this is the group i would be most afraid of. they are willing to mess around but don't want to learn the process themselves and therefore do not respect the knowledge/ability and would easily like a scapegoat when the f*ck something up and blame it on you.

and regardless you should look at it as a business and you will need to learn the tax/accounting stuff or at least find a good cpa. this way you will know where you are it if/when it really blows up (in a good way) and you may need a loan to get a larger office space. a friend of mine is a serious business owner, real estate investor, multi millionare(sp?) and even though his latest project is totally funded by him (to the cost of over $1M+) he is still making a business plan, just to keep on track.
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
You're going to have to find some way to give added value.

I would look into overclocking and things like that. Strap a nice Zalman to a Venice and OC it to 2.4Ghz giving you free extra performance. Lock the people out of the BIOS with a password so they can't go in and screw things up. With how easy/stable/reliable overclocking on some systems (DFI for instance), it shouldn't be a problem even in the long term. I wouldn't do any extreme (like pushing for 2.7/2.8 where it might fail in the summer months when the heat goes up), but a nice boost to give your stuff the extra edge at little to no added cost.

I would also consider looking into setting up a customized interface. Get used to using things like Konfabulator and other little things that a majority of people I would think don't know about.

Thats how you'll get customers. Win them over on the little stuff, as they can get the major things (a computer that works) from Dell or many other places for cheaper.

Also, look into convergence. Say you're in a college town. You'll have people in the dorms. Maybe look into a SFF that you can include a TV tuner and good speakers into (not hard at all). This way they don't need a special stereo or a TV. You might be able to sell them on a bigger monitor that way as well.
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these are good ideas but you will have to definately make sure the machine is both prime95 and memtest stable for 24-48hrs straight.

and also i am sure that o/cing voids a cpus warranty. it doesn't really apply to those that do it on their own stuff because there is no written record stating "3000venice o/ced to 2.4GHz"

I realize that my biggest problem would be tech support and such. But the thing is im not looking for a mainstream market. Just I see a bunch of people over here wanting to build a computer but slightly afriad. I mean, by all means they should go for it and get the joy of building your own, but if they are really not willing to build one themselves, it would be nice to give them some reasonable alternatives to other oems out there like..
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i totally agree with you but this is the group i would be most afraid of. they are willing to mess around but don't want to learn the process themselves and therefore do not respect the knowledge/ability and would easily like a scapegoat when the f*ck something up and blame it on you.

and regardless you should look at it as a business and you will need to learn the tax/accounting stuff or at least find a good cpa. this way you will know where you are it if/when it really blows up (in a good way) and you may need a loan to get a larger office space. a friend of mine is a serious business owner, real estate investor, multi millionare(sp?) and even though his latest project is totally funded by him (to the cost of over $1M+) he is still making a business plan, just to keep on track.
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Some very good advice. Do not try to do this in seat of your pants kind of mentality from a financial standpoint. It'd be way to easy to stick yourself with un-wanted/needed costs.

I was assuming that you'd sell only perfectly stable computers, so I thought Prime95 passing was a given. I would give your own warranty on components. This way if anything is wrong hardware wise you'd just replace it with another one and then RMA faulty ones yourself. Of course, overclocking would void the warranty, but you shouldn't have to worry much about failures. Typically it seems like if its going to fail it'll do so at stock speeds, and if it works then it'll work even after overclocking (reasonable overclocking I mean). Maybe test them first at stock and make sure everything is peachy and then do the overclock.

Yeah, you'd definitely have to give yourself some safety measures. Thats why I recommended locking them out of the BIOS. I guess they could still use Clockgen to mess with things though. Like he said those are the ones you worry about, as (sorry for the generalizing) they're more likely to RMA components that they killed through overclocking/modding.

Another thing that I would do, especially if you're aiming for local sales, is to make demo units. Have actual setups that people can play with and see how well they perform, work, look, etc. Maybe even go as far as to buy a Dell and compare them performance wise. Have them setup next to each other to show the difference in what you get.

Also remember, you're going to have to do something to keep them secure. I don't know how many times I've seen people with Dell's/HPs/other brand names that say how they're computer is slow because it is one of those, only to find out they have a virii/adware/spyware along with a bunch of other pointless programs that they never use but didn't realize were installed. Its not Dell's fault if you got a virus that eats away all your CPU power. If you're doing local then maybe offer to do a free format and reinstall every 6 months or a year or something to keep them up to date and with a reasonably clean running computer.

Definitely get your own phone number dedicated for your business. Use Vonage or another VoIP service if available so that you can have cheap long distance.
 
I haven't put the following into practice, so I'm not sure how practical it would be, but this is my hypothesis....

People who would buy a PC from a friend of a friend, or have some out-of-home amatuer build it, they probably understand the weaknesses of Dell and Gateway. That's why they're going to you, instead: because they know Dells and Gateways are overpriced, and that they can get something better from you, for the same price, or something similar for less money.

As such, they likely have some PC know-how, but not enough to understand why certain components are better than others. These are the people who think a Celeron D 2.8 GHz is about as powerful as a Pentium 4 2.6 GHz. They are also very confused about model numbering. They don't understand why an Athlon 64 1.8 GHz should be faster than a Pentium 4 3.0 GHz.

Therefore, the Celerons are your best bet. Here's a run-down of prices (all retail with fan)...
$59 Celeron D 310 (2.13 GHz) s478
$62 Celeron D 315 (2.26 GHz) s478
$65 Celeron 2.5 GHz s478
$76 Celeron 2.6 GHz s478
$78 Celeron 2.8 GHz s478
$92 Celeron D 340 (2.93 GHz) s478
$116 Celeron D 345 (3.06 GHz) s478
$133 Celeron D 351 (3.20 GHz) LGA775/EM64T

These will be your hallmark processors. Sad, isn't it? But people still rely on clock speed to determine performance. They may know a Celeron isn't *quite* as fast as a full-blown P4, but they can't get past the idea of buying a 2.8 GHz CPU for only $78.

Unfortunately, in addition to those obsessed with clock speed, you will also find people who *must* have a Pentium 4. They've been told by somebody that Celerons are bad, and they take that to the opposite extreme as discussed above. They will refuse to buy Celerons, Semprons, and even Athlons simply because they've been raised on Pentiums. Unfortunately, Pentiums are not cheap. You can get a P4 1.6 from StarMicro for only $67, but then you have to pay another $11 at eWiz for a cheap cooler, bringing the total cost to $78--the same price as a Celeron 2.8 GHz. Modern P4s start at about $175 or so, so you'll want to shy away from them if you can.

You'll also get the overclocking crowd, who knows you can build a PC and take it beyond certified speeds. For these people, press the Palermos and Venices. You can get an Epox EP-8KDA8I (s754) for $64, and an Epox EP-9NPAJ (s939) for $93. Both are superb overclockers, but still fairly inexpensive. Recommend the Sempron 2600+ (1.6 GHz, 128KB L2) or Sempron 2800+ (1.6 GHz, 256KB L2) for s754, and the Venice 3000+ (1.8 GHz, 512KB L2) or X2 3800+ (2.0 GHz, dual core) for s939.

Another great cost-buster is the Athlon 64 3700+ (2.4 GHz, 1MB L2), which sells for a paltry $165 (OEM s754). Peddle this to those who accept model numbering but don't understand the difference between socket-754 and socket-939.

With motherboards, integrated graphics are essential for buyers who don't care about or understand graphics. For $38, you can get an integrated s478 board--that's $116 for a motherboard, graphics and Intel 2.8 GHz CPU (hehe...)!

A few other suggestions....
>Forget RAM timings. Only enthusiasts who probably build their own PCs know about timings.
>Forget SATA, cache, NCQ, RPM, etc. Again, most people don't know about these things.
>Forget name-brand PSUs. As long as it works for the first 30 days, what do you care?

Finally, a general suggestion: You'll be building PCs for others, not for yourself. So don't pay attention to what you want. Give the customer what *they* want. If they ask your opinion, give it to them. Otherwise, keep silent.
 
And a hint, do not stay with one brand mainboard and what not. Be constantly up to date on which parts are faster, cheaper, and of higher quality.
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I agree, offer a range of components for each different component type. Consider also having MSI, DFI, and Epox boards. I think that as a small independent PC builder, you only have a very small niche market of customers to work with, so it's essential to be very in tune to what they want and need. Basically, the way I see it, the people who are going to buy a prebuilt PC from an "amateur" builder are people who are PC savvy enough to want better than what a Dell or Gateway or other major OEM system typically offers, but who do not yet know enough or are unwilling to build a system themselves, and who also cannot afford to shell out the prices that well established specialty build places like Alienware or Falcon Northwest demand. They probably know at least some things about the different CPU's and other hardware options out there, and they probably also have some specifics in mind about what peices of hardware they want. The closer you can come to matching what they have in mind, the more likely they are to buy from you, especially if you offer them choices in areas that most other custom build shops do not (for example, very few let you choose from a number of different mainboards, they have you pick your socket, and then you're stuck with whatever their "default" mainboard is for that socket).

So anyways, I think if you're going to do this, you need to watch for trends among the more tech savvy people, and keep your product offerings updated accordingly. Your average customer is probably going to be someone who wants a system comparable to what most of the people on these forums would build themselves, without the "hassle" of having to build it themselves, and without having to pay an excessive price premium in order to get it, and if this is what you can deliver, you should be able to do okay for yourself with the whole PC building thing.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the amazing input. How some people talked about overclocking, i thought of an idea.

We would sell just lower clocked AMD procs(nothing above a 3500 venice, or 3800x2)
Than offer an oc'ing option(with a nice market phrase, like super charging or something) and charge an additional fee for every 200mhz or whatever. than password lock the bios
there are obvious prs and cons to this

i was thinking over choices for brands and...
mb-epox-second best oc'er nf4, one of the cheapest(have one myself with a 3500 venice)
psu-probobly fortron and antec, maybe ocz
ram-ocz
hdd-cheapest sata drives

one thing im still woried about is warrantys and customer support. this is probobly where the majority of the rep. would come from, and i wouldnt want to screw it up.

 
I dont have experience selling computers, but I do have experience with local tech support and being "the computer guy" for all my aquaintances. As an enthusiast, gamer and Oc'er etc.... i will share my opinion.

First off, tech support and all sorts of issues, both hardware and software are going to be a HUGE headache for you. A major selling point for small computer custom builders, and also the Dells of the world is tech support and someone to blame or give you help when there is a problem. If you are going to start off a new company (excuse me if im wrong, and i appoligze but you sound like you could possibly be in high school or still in college?) your going to want to take into consideration your selling points and what makes you attractive to customers. Slot of people expect, and hell demand that you fix their computers when they break. Now im not sure how you plan on dealing with this, if your simply going to say "software is the customers responsibility, hardware issues must be taken up with the manufacturer" that would work, and really save you the headaches, but it really limits your prospective customer base.

If your going to be building custom AMD gaming rigs, your really looking at tech saavy people, who are gamers and knowledgable to the point they know not to get a Dell or an HP from the local bestbuy... but at the same time they have to be willing to buy from you, and pay a premium for you to build it. (i assume you want profits hehe)

Anyways im not sure how big this business is going to be, but just remember that you put yourself at risk if your selling this stuff on the internet, there are risks of packages not arriving, broken components etc.... dishonest customers, bad luck etc.....

As for your brands they look fine.

 
Originally posted by: love2skate824
Hey guys, thanks for the amazing input. How some people talked about overclocking, i thought of an idea.

We would sell just lower clocked AMD procs(nothing above a 3500 venice, or 3800x2)
Than offer an oc'ing option(with a nice market phrase, like super charging or something) and charge an additional fee for every 200mhz or whatever. than password lock the bios
there are obvious prs and cons to this

i was thinking over choices for brands and...
mb-epox-second best oc'er nf4, one of the cheapest(have one myself with a 3500 venice)
psu-probobly fortron and antec, maybe ocz
ram-ocz
hdd-cheapest sata drives

one thing im still woried about is warrantys and customer support. this is probobly where the majority of the rep. would come from, and i wouldnt want to screw it up.
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bad idea, the first time they find cpu-z they will wonder why their machine is underclocked and this would make me think you are dishonest. hell, even if they right click on My Computer and hit properties they will see this...:thumbsdown:
 
Without A+ certification, it may be illegal for you to offer tech support, even on your own systems. In fact, I'm not sure you're allowed to sell PCs at all without A+.

You can't password-lock the BIOS. That would piss off your customers.

In my opinion, you'll never pull this off. I'd abandon any plans, now.
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: love2skate824
Hey guys, thanks for the amazing input. How some people talked about overclocking, i thought of an idea.

We would sell just lower clocked AMD procs(nothing above a 3500 venice, or 3800x2)
Than offer an oc'ing option(with a nice market phrase, like super charging or something) and charge an additional fee for every 200mhz or whatever. than password lock the bios
there are obvious prs and cons to this

i was thinking over choices for brands and...
mb-epox-second best oc'er nf4, one of the cheapest(have one myself with a 3500 venice)
psu-probobly fortron and antec, maybe ocz
ram-ocz
hdd-cheapest sata drives

one thing im still woried about is warrantys and customer support. this is probobly where the majority of the rep. would come from, and i wouldnt want to screw it up.
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bad idea, the first time they find cpu-z they will wonder why their machine is underclocked and this would make me think you are dishonest. hell, even if they right click on My Computer and hit properties they will see this...:thumbsdown:
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I believe he means he won't sell the expensive new CPUs, but rather stick with the value range and overclock them if the customer desires. He won't be underclocking.

I just don't see a market in this. People that know nothing about computers buy a Dell or something from Best Buy. People that know about computers build their own.

I don't want to shoot down your idea, but you have to look at the market. There is no way you can compete with a company like Dell for the average computer. Also, people won't want to buy your computer because really, it's going to be a lot more than a Dell, especially if you want to make a decent profit off the time spent assembling. I put a computer together for my grandparents last week, and with all of the parts/shipping/OS, it worked out to about $100 more than a Dell. Now, the Dell wasn't quite as nice, but the Dell threw in a free printer. Even at just the cost of the parts I was over the price of the Dell by a good margin. If you want to make any money at this your computer is going to be priced like an Alienware.

The real kicker is support. What kind of support are you going to offer? That is what people really need. I doubt you'll have a 24hr call centre, but even so, just supporting the computers you make might take all of your time, and people won't want to pay if they just bought it from you!

Also, overclocking a computer for a guy who knows nothing about them is a bad idea. If you want to charge a fee for overclocking, I think it would be better spent just buying a faster processor right out the gate. Overclocking should be left to those who understand the risks and rewards.
 
Without A+ certification, it may be illegal for you to offer tech support, even on your own systems. In fact, I'm not sure you're allowed to sell PCs at all without A+.
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That can't be true. I've never heard of certification being required to sell something (well, most somethings anyways, although there are obvious exceptions, like perscription drugs and such), and even if it was, it would almost certainly be some government certification that would be required, and not A+.

I agree about password locking the BIOS though. If I got a PC that was BIOS locked, the first thing I'd do is clear the CMOS, and then I'd never buy from that retailer again. If you sell people crippled PC's, then you're no better than Dell/Gateway/the rest, and people will quickly catch on, and then you'll soon be out of customers.

And if you're going to overclock people's CPU's, you might as well just go with the 3000+ Venice, it'll be a cheaper per-unit price, and it'll overclock just as well as the 3500+ Venice.
 
Originally posted by: Varun
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: love2skate824
Hey guys, thanks for the amazing input. How some people talked about overclocking, i thought of an idea.

We would sell just lower clocked AMD procs(nothing above a 3500 venice, or 3800x2)
Than offer an oc'ing option(with a nice market phrase, like super charging or something) and charge an additional fee for every 200mhz or whatever. than password lock the bios
there are obvious prs and cons to this

i was thinking over choices for brands and...
mb-epox-second best oc'er nf4, one of the cheapest(have one myself with a 3500 venice)
psu-probobly fortron and antec, maybe ocz
ram-ocz
hdd-cheapest sata drives

one thing im still woried about is warrantys and customer support. this is probobly where the majority of the rep. would come from, and i wouldnt want to screw it up.
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bad idea, the first time they find cpu-z they will wonder why their machine is underclocked and this would make me think you are dishonest. hell, even if they right click on My Computer and hit properties they will see this...:thumbsdown:
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I believe he means he won't sell the expensive new CPUs, but rather stick with the value range and overclock them if the customer desires. He won't be underclocking.

I just don't see a market in this. People that know nothing about computers buy a Dell or something from Best Buy. People that know about computers build their own.

I don't want to shoot down your idea, but you have to look at the market. There is no way you can compete with a company like Dell for the average computer. Also, people won't want to buy your computer because really, it's going to be a lot more than a Dell, especially if you want to make a decent profit off the time spent assembling. I put a computer together for my grandparents last week, and with all of the parts/shipping/OS, it worked out to about $100 more than a Dell. Now, the Dell wasn't quite as nice, but the Dell threw in a free printer. Even at just the cost of the parts I was over the price of the Dell by a good margin. If you want to make any money at this your computer is going to be priced like an Alienware.

The real kicker is support. What kind of support are you going to offer? That is what people really need. I doubt you'll have a 24hr call centre, but even so, just supporting the computers you make might take all of your time, and people won't want to pay if they just bought it from you!

Also, overclocking a computer for a guy who knows nothing about them is a bad idea. If you want to charge a fee for overclocking, I think it would be better spent just buying a faster processor right out the gate. Overclocking should be left to those who understand the risks and rewards.
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now that i re-read it you are correct, i just intrepreted it incorrectly.

hurtstotalktoyou - where are you getting your information from? i would say that is pretty far off unless you could point me in the direction where you are getting your information from that states it is true. there are certain things you need to have licenses to sell/practice like guns, medications, liquor, medicine, etc but definately not computers.
 
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hurtstotalktoyou - where are you getting your information from? i would say that is pretty far off unless you could point me in the direction where you are getting your information from that states it is true. there are certain things you need to have licenses to sell/practice like guns, medications, liquor, medicine, etc but definately not computers.
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I don't know if it's true or not, but it's something to check out before starting a business.
 
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Originally posted by: bob4432
hurtstotalktoyou - where are you getting your information from? i would say that is pretty far off unless you could point me in the direction where you are getting your information from that states it is true. there are certain things you need to have licenses to sell/practice like guns, medications, liquor, medicine, etc but definately not computers.
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I don't know if it's true or not, but it's something to check out before starting a business.
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at least in AZ where i live it is definately not true...
 
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