fried my Athlon 1.2

[Necrolezbeast]

I'm pretty sure it's fried at least...I just got a new shim and decided to install it, I completely took it apart put the shim on so it wasn't covering any bridges...and now I'm getting no post, even without the shim. The first time I did get a post and it said i was running a 900mhz so i went to bios and set that back to normal and then it was counting the memory and stopped at 254 when it should to go 263 and from then on my comp won't post or anything. fried? it does smell a wee bit odd, but I've had like 3 different people smell it and it does have a smell, but not as it did with my friends burnt 1.2, that one actually smelled like a burn burn...but yet again he didn't have a core left. It's slightly off-colored on and upper corner of the core, but not blackened. Any help would be appreciated, I don't have all too much money(prolly like $30 at the moment) so if I have to I will just a get duron or something else that is cheap...

 

[Renob]

It sounds like the shim was not letting the HSF touch the core of the cpu, if that is the case the Yes you did fry your cpu. Bummer

 

[Necrolezbeast]

well, I just ordered a 1600+ from newegg($70) and I was wondering how to tell what the stepping is. Also regarding cooling, I have a volcano II and was wondering if that would handle it alright? and should I try to install the shim again, it has a little crease-like thing on it but it doesn't seem to bad?

 

[jaybee]

You can read the stepping off the core. Can't remember exactly where it is, but you should recognize it (AGOGA, AROIA, etc). Maybe someone else can help with more details. Regarding the shim, I wouldn't use one unless your hsf requires or should have it.

jaybee

PS Nice chip (XP1600+), let us know if you overclock it.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That CPU sounds like toast! Also, I wouldn't use that shim anymore Just make sure you put the pressure on the clip and not the heatsink during installation and you will be fine. Be certain that the HS is making proper contact with the CPU and that you don't use too much thermal compound. when you boot up immediately go to the bios and watch your temps for a bit to ensure that all is well and that you did indeed get a good mount, Good luck EDIT:BTW don't forget that if you are using ASIII that it takes a few days to get to optimal temps.

 

[Jwyatt]

You probably toasted it. Get some strawberry jelly and have breakfast

One question, Why did you take a working HS off to install a shim? the purpose of a shim is to keep you from cracking the core while installing. If it was installed the shim would help nothing!

 

[mdcrab]

I fried a Duron 700 because of a shim. I will never use them again. It held the hsf off of the core allow it burn up the ASII. The processor now is brain dead and runs at a speed less than a 386.

mdcrab

 

[Duvie]

You broke one of the major rules!!!

1) Never reset a hsf on an AMD chip unless you need to fix something critical....The chip has a fragile core that offers no protection. Did you take the rubber bumpers off??? Damn you!!!!

2) Never flash your motherboard to a new bios unless you are having problems....Bad flash will kill!!!

3) Never plug or unplug things into the computer while it is running or power is plugged into it...

4) Never update your video drivers to beta versions if you are having no issues


There are a whole bunch more.....

General Rule: Don't fix what isn't broken....

Go get a P4!!!

 

[Necrolezbeast]

I was stripping my comp down to do some spring cleaning and apply some asII cause it's getting pretty warm over here...and I had just won the shim the day before at a lan party, so I figured since it was already apart no harm would be done...that theory was incorrect. I don't plan on overclocking right now cause I have really bad generic ram, but when I get money I'll invest in something better then overclock.

 

[spanky]

murderer

 

[mdcrab]

Duvie

Great set of rules. They probably should be the Laws for Computer Geeks.

#4. My son runs into problems frequently due to breaking #4.
#3 I fried a hard drive one time by plugging the power connector back into the drive with power on, but the power connector was reversed. Although the plug would not go in, it made contact (or sparks would be a better descripion). The hard drive never ran again.


Not sure about the P4 the stuff!?
But then I've never fried a P processor, so that may be true too.

mdcrab

 

[redls1]

I guess I need to listen to this, just killed my second xp1900. Man these things are fragile.

 

[Necrolezbeast]

k, here is my next question...it's prolly a bit dumb, but I've never had to do this before and all. On the heatsink was the thermal tape that came on it, but it has the little indentation to the metal where my core was, the 1600+ has a different sized core so do I need to take off the thermal tape or do I just apply the compound and let it sit? Also, is a 1700+ AGOGA a good overclocker, kinda sucks cause my friends mom's boss just gave her this processor for no reason after I ordered my 1600+.

 

[mdcrab]

Necrolezbeast,

Sounds kinda great. Atleast you have a back up in case you fry one.

mdcrab

 

[Necrolezbeast]

back to the heatsink question, anyone have any responses? I get the processor on monday and would like to know what exactly to do...

 

[Deskstar]

The Rules listed earlier are accurate and well thought out. Unfortunately, the majority of this Forum's readers overclock or tweak something on their machines, thus breaking the "rules" established by the computer parts supplier. So, this group is unlikely to follow any rules. In fact, this group is more likely to seek to break a rule so that it can be tested and discarded. Just a challenge to the status quo in good spirit.

 

[Insidious]

I think you'll be much better to remove the remnants of the thermal pad (use something plastic to scrape so you dont gouge the HS too much)

Here is a tout. from arctic silver (old one) that is very well done.

Thermal compound instructions

(I don't think shims are too valuable)

 

[Necrolezbeast]

thx for the help, I scraped most of it off with my fingernails, hehe...the rest wouldn't come off, but it's hardly anything.

 

[NesuD]

nail polish remover should get the rest off for you.