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AllWhacked

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Where has Obama said he won't be voting on the bailout?? When is that vote going to take place again????

I don't think he said he wouldn't vote, but based on their schedules they most likely would not.

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The bailout vote might fall this Friday. I think the understanding is that they need to do it this week because when financial markets open on Monday, some bad stuff might happen.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: sportage

Dont get too distracted with debates and bailouts.
A presidential election is coming up and people are still
focused on that.

Yeah. We don't need to think about what a President would say or do about such minor distractions as a projected total financial collapse of the nation. :roll:
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: AllWhacked
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Where has Obama said he won't be voting on the bailout?? When is that vote going to take place again????

I don't think he said he wouldn't vote, but based on their schedules they most likely would not.

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The bailout vote might fall this Friday. I think the understanding is that they need to do it this week because when financial markets open on Monday, some bad stuff might happen.

I will bet you a nickel that the Dem leadership in Congress will give Obama enough warning to get his plane in the air to Washington in time for the vote if it takes place Friday.

I wouldn't be so sure about that Friday vote. Bush is going to push for it (like he fell over backward for McCain's j-o-i-n-t m-e-e-t-i-n-g (what a waste of time)) but a Friday vote holds nothing over weekend action ...
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: AllWhacked
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Where has Obama said he won't be voting on the bailout?? When is that vote going to take place again????

I don't think he said he wouldn't vote, but based on their schedules they most likely would not.

Source

The bailout vote might fall this Friday. I think the understanding is that they need to do it this week because when financial markets open on Monday, some bad stuff might happen.

Uh, he won't need that much warning to make it back to DC from Tampa ... airplane FTW.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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What a joke.

America does not care for pussies, and John McCain is pussying out in the worst way. We've had presidential debates through worse crises.

Nobody is waiting for John "I don't know much about economics" McCain to help figure out what to do. This move is going to backfire in the worst way for McCain, the American people will see him as weak and scared of debating Obama. The polls are clearly FAR worse than anyone can imagine for McCain. There is no other way to explain this behavior.
 

Coldkilla

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You go to Washington & you 'help' there, then fly over to the debates - 90 minutes later your back on a plane to Washington...

Simple as that.
 

Moonbeam

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It would be nice to see Obama win against a worthy opponent but it's looking like he's going to win against a train wreak.
 

evident

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this is fucking pathetic, now they want to push back palin's VP debate as well. why can't they just run a clean campaign.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Reagan and Carter debated although the Hostage Crises had begun.

Nixon and Kennedy debated 3 days after bomb went off in Times Square (believe it was 2nd or 3rd in a series of bombings)

Bush and Gore debated 5 days after the US Cole had been attacked.

The list goes on and on.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: evident
this is fucking pathetic, now they want to push back palin's VP debate as well. why can't they just run a clean campaign.

I'm sure that's just a coincidence.... yeah... because they HAVE to reschedule the Presidential debate for that particular day because... uhhhh...
 

nageov3t

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is it possible that McCain is basing his scheduling around the assumption that he'll have to take a horse and buggy wherever he needs to go?
 

dawp

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It took how long to get to this point and we have to act right now to prevent disaster? I'm sorry but i just don't buy it. Look what happened in the past when bill were rushed through. I say take the time to do it right. if a few companies go under because of this, tough luck. They only have themselves to blame.

McCain is just pushing for delay just for apperances only, IMO. Like his appearance on letterman cancellation, then going to Katie at the same time he would have been at Letterman's. I think John is grasping at anything to keep his campaign afloat. He's going down and he knows it.
 

Moonbeam

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Here, , in the 7 pm 8 pm section, slide the slider 45 min in, is a recording of an interview with Barney Frank regarding the president's speech and the John McCain 'parachute in'. He gives details of the current state of negotiation and the progress being made and the uselessness of McCain interference. Lots of good stuff and goes to about 52 min in.
 

jpeyton

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John is now in an even WEAKER position by opening his mouth about a cancellation.

If he shows up, he's a flip-flopper. If he doesn't show up, he's going to drop 5 points in the polls overnight.

McPussy/Palin 2008
 

crisscross

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Letterman rips hi apart " Letterman noted, "What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"
LOL
 

Coldkilla

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Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.

Obama called this something like the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. I think something that dire needs to be the most important period. Both Obama and McCain need to be there and have thier hands on this since one of them will live with this for 4 or 8 years. That way neither can bitch in a few years and say I had no part in it this was not my fault if it does not work out. I do not like the hands off approach of Obama I like a leader who will roll up their sleeves and get to work. It makes me wonder how Obama would act as president when there is a major crisis. Is he going to let others make the decisions like he is now. Or is he going to show real leadership and get his hands dirty and do some heavy lifting. McCain might not be good with economy but he is damn good at getting people of opposite sides to work together and that is what we need right now.
 

Young Grasshopper

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.

Obama called this something like the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. I think something that dire needs to be the most important period. Both Obama and McCain need to be there and have thier hands on this since one of them will live with this for 4 or 8 years. That way neither can bitch in a few years and say I had no part in it this was not my fault if it does not work out. I do not like the hands off approach of Obama I like a leader who will roll up their sleeves and get to work. It makes me wonder how Obama would act as president when there is a major crisis. Is he going to let others make the decisions like he is now. Or is he going to show real leadership and get his hands dirty and do some heavy lifting. McCain might not be good with economy but he is damn good at getting people of opposite sides to work together and that is what we need right now.




Then why is he there? What is he going to do in these meetings, make coffee and pizza runs everyday for the economists? You're a brainwashed fool if you think McCain is doing this for any other reasons other than political. His own chief financial adviser said our country was a nation of whiners when it came to economy and he himself last week said the fundamentals of our 'economy are strong'. This financial meltdown blows up in recent days and McBigot starts seeing his numbers sliding in the polls, and NOW all of a sudden he realizes our economy is in shambles? Bullshit. Seriously, what is a man with no grasping of how the economy works going to help fix a crisis like this? And why must he drop everything he's doing, cant he walk and chew gum at the same time like any real president would do?


McCain guy reminds me of the one the IT guys at my last job. He was paid a high salary but technically didnt know as much as the others but whenever we had some kind of migration going on during off production hours he'd always be there, and 'try' to be part of it even though he did nothing other than bring food. The only reason the guy came was to keep his job and have something to put on a self review come raise time.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Young Grasshopper
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.

Obama called this something like the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. I think something that dire needs to be the most important period. Both Obama and McCain need to be there and have thier hands on this since one of them will live with this for 4 or 8 years. That way neither can bitch in a few years and say I had no part in it this was not my fault if it does not work out. I do not like the hands off approach of Obama I like a leader who will roll up their sleeves and get to work. It makes me wonder how Obama would act as president when there is a major crisis. Is he going to let others make the decisions like he is now. Or is he going to show real leadership and get his hands dirty and do some heavy lifting. McCain might not be good with economy but he is damn good at getting people of opposite sides to work together and that is what we need right now.




Then why is he there? What is he going to do in these meetings, make coffee and pizza runs everyday for the economists? You're a brainwashed fool if you think McCain is doing this for any other reasons other than political. His own chief financial adviser said our country was a nation of whiners when it came to economy and he himself last week said the fundamentals of our 'economy are strong'. This financial meltdown blows up in recent days and McBigot starts seeing his numbers sliding in the polls, and NOW all of a sudden he realizes our economy is in shambles? Bullshit. Seriously, what is a man with no grasping of how the economy works going to help fix a crisis like this? And why must he drop everything he's doing, cant he walk and chew gum at the same time like any real president would do?


This guy reminds me of the one the IT guys at my last job. He was paid a high salary but technically didnt know as much as the others but whenever we had some kind of migration going on during off production hours he'd always be there, and 'try' to be part of it even though he did nothing other than bring food. The only reason the guy came was to keep his job and have something to put on a self review come raise time.

Personally I wish more people would come to our system upgrades during off hours. It is nice to have extra help if shit does not go right. Nothing worse than being short handed in a time of need. I can find something usefull for anyone in my IT department to do when shit goes bad. That is just me I like to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.

 

Young Grasshopper

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Young Grasshopper
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.

Obama called this something like the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. I think something that dire needs to be the most important period. Both Obama and McCain need to be there and have thier hands on this since one of them will live with this for 4 or 8 years. That way neither can bitch in a few years and say I had no part in it this was not my fault if it does not work out. I do not like the hands off approach of Obama I like a leader who will roll up their sleeves and get to work. It makes me wonder how Obama would act as president when there is a major crisis. Is he going to let others make the decisions like he is now. Or is he going to show real leadership and get his hands dirty and do some heavy lifting. McCain might not be good with economy but he is damn good at getting people of opposite sides to work together and that is what we need right now.




Then why is he there? What is he going to do in these meetings, make coffee and pizza runs everyday for the economists? You're a brainwashed fool if you think McCain is doing this for any other reasons other than political. His own chief financial adviser said our country was a nation of whiners when it came to economy and he himself last week said the fundamentals of our 'economy are strong'. This financial meltdown blows up in recent days and McBigot starts seeing his numbers sliding in the polls, and NOW all of a sudden he realizes our economy is in shambles? Bullshit. Seriously, what is a man with no grasping of how the economy works going to help fix a crisis like this? And why must he drop everything he's doing, cant he walk and chew gum at the same time like any real president would do?


This guy reminds me of the one the IT guys at my last job. He was paid a high salary but technically didnt know as much as the others but whenever we had some kind of migration going on during off production hours he'd always be there, and 'try' to be part of it even though he did nothing other than bring food. The only reason the guy came was to keep his job and have something to put on a self review come raise time.

Personally I wish more people would come to our system upgrades during off hours. It is nice to have extra help if shit does not go right. Nothing worse than being short handed in a time of need. I can find something usefull for anyone in my IT department to do when shit goes bad. That is just me I like to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.



You're probably right, its always helpful to have extra IT staff involved in IT related stuff. But this is like bringing the old lady receptionist(or old man in this case) to those system upgrades. What can they do other? They are of no help. If he REALLY wanted to help, or at least try to act like he did, he'd send his financial advisers to Washington and continue on with the debates instead of being a chickenshit.

 

sportage

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Lets play our own debate game:
Mccain, Obama Friday 9/26 debate.

Q. Mr Mccain, what do you think of the economy?
A. (Mccain) The fundamentals of the economy are sound.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) I am a maverick.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) I think Cindy will make a great first lady.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) Now you see why I chose Palin.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) Once I never even had a table.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) We're going to drain the swamp.
Q. WHAT?
A. (Mccain) Someone please call 911...911, 91, 999...

Q. Mr Obama, any thoughts?
A. (Obama) What the hell?
Thank you for joining us tonight for the debates. We learned a lot.
 

sportage

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Attempt at humor aside, Mccain just wants to return to Washington to make sure this bailout gets FU-ed up right. (And he gets his cut)
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Letterman hit the nail on the head...

That really makes me wonder why McCain was talking about Obama's responce towards this financial sitiuation in which Obama wanted to look at the facts before making a decision unlike how McCain threw out his talking points right away. McCain used that period of indecisiveness to compare that towards the number of times in which Obama has voted 'present' in his career. He said: "Obama can't vote 'present' when you are the president",

...but McCain can just 'suspend' being president... I don't get the difference.

Obama called this something like the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. I think something that dire needs to be the most important period. Both Obama and McCain need to be there and have thier hands on this since one of them will live with this for 4 or 8 years. That way neither can bitch in a few years and say I had no part in it this was not my fault if it does not work out. I do not like the hands off approach of Obama I like a leader who will roll up their sleeves and get to work. It makes me wonder how Obama would act as president when there is a major crisis. Is he going to let others make the decisions like he is now. Or is he going to show real leadership and get his hands dirty and do some heavy lifting. McCain might not be good with economy but he is damn good at getting people of opposite sides to work together and that is what we need right now.

The irony is that the democrats and republicans are already working well together and close to a deal which McCain and Bush are threatening to delay and screw up by calling for a meeting at the white house that interferes with congressional meetings of real substance. McHamFist is screwing things up while attempting to get in the lime light. McClusterFubar.