French wine boycott starting to hit hard

[Michael]

The NY Times has an article on the effect of the boycott on the French wine industry:

"French wine sales to the United States, once French winemakers' most promising market and now one of their greatest competitors, are going down the drain.

"It's clear from our American distributors that there is a hesitation to promote French wines for the time being," said Bruno Finance, sales manager for Yvon Mau, one of Bordeaux's largest wine merchants. He said French wine was losing its share of some other markets. "But as of today, the only place there is such a big loss is in the U.S." "

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I'm see ing signs in the French press that different business groups are putting increasing pressure on the government to mend relations with the US. It'll be interesting to see if it has any more effect.

Michael

 

[Moonbeam]

The power of morons to punish the unrelated is amazing. Maybe there'll be some sales. Stupendous wine at a bargan. Nice. What I wouldn't do for a great bottle of sauterne.

 

[BarneyFife]

People will forget all about it in a about a year...

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Michael

I'm see ing signs in the French press that different business groups are putting increasing pressure on the government to mend relations with the US. It'll be interesting to see if it has any more effect.

Michael

I think people should buy American Wines anyway, california vintages are as good as the europeans in almost every class. It takes time for the vineyards to establish and the grapes to mature enough to produce good wine and that maturity occured in California winerys years ago and it's about time people realized it and started purchasing American Wines.

 

[rudder]

I am glad there wasn't a boycott on German beer.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: rudder
I am glad there wasn't a boycott on German beer.

Two words for you.."Shiner Bock", Made in Texas

I haven't purchased any French wines since 9-11, but then again I didn't purchase any before it either.

My wine of choice

 

[Gaard]

Never been much of a wine person. I'm biased against beverages which require me to raise my pinky when I drink it.

Michael - I don't agree with your having a vendetta against French wineries for disagreeing with the actions of the French government, but I'm happy that you're happy.

 

[ElFenix]

cali wine is better anyway

 

[mastertech01]

I thought we were just boycotting French Whine.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Most import and expensive domestic wines are suffering from poor sales. It's not due to any boycott, it's due to all the cheap domestic wine producers popping up.

 

[Dari]

unless the french are able to patent their names, the non-french wine industry would've taken much of what the french wine industry once had. once people realize that non-french wine is just as good, if not better, than the french, it'll be over. of course, there will always be the tradionalists, who put more of an emphasis on image and name than quality.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

<Note to self, run out and get a few more bottles of 2000 Bordeaux>

 

[Fencer128]

Originally posted by: Dari
unless the french are able to patent their names, the non-french wine industry would've taken much of what the french wine industry once had. once people realize that non-french wine is just as good, if not better, than the french, it'll be over. of course, there will always be the tradionalists, who put more of an emphasis on image and name than quality.

Or it could be that taste is subjective - and once wine snobbery is ruled out - people like what they like. I wouldn't say overall that either is "better" (but then I'm no real expert).

Cheers,

Andy

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Fencer128

Originally posted by: Dari
unless the french are able to patent their names, the non-french wine industry would've taken much of what the french wine industry once had. once people realize that non-french wine is just as good, if not better, than the french, it'll be over. of course, there will always be the tradionalists, who put more of an emphasis on image and name than quality.

Or it could be that taste is subjective - and once wine snobbery is ruled out - people like what they like. I wouldn't say overall that either is "better" (but then I'm no real expert).

Cheers,

Andy

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

 

[Fencer128]

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Fencer128

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

than, with all their snobbery and and un-warranted arrogance, the french do stand a chance.

 

[Fencer128]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Fencer128

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

than, with all their snobbery and and un-warranted arrogance, the french do stand a chance.

Now we were having a perfectly respectable conversation and then you had to go and say that. You know I don't agree with that interpretation of the french.

Back to my trench....

Andy

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Fencer128

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

than, with all their snobbery and and un-warranted arrogance, the french do stand a chance.

This brought to you from someone who thinks America ought to run the world no matter what the world thinks about it

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Fencer128

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Fencer128

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

than, with all their snobbery and and un-warranted arrogance, the french do stand a chance.

Now we were having a perfectly respectable conversation and then you had to go and say that. You know I don't agree with that interpretation of the french.

Back to my trench....

Andy

well, I heard that the australian wine industry is giving the french wine industry a run for its money. and their cheaper. what's more, most of the high-end non-french wines have french-sounding name. I, too, was thinking of starting my own wine cellar, to sell to those hobbyists at a future date. But I changed my mind, fearing that my girlfriend's brother would come and drink away my future profits. And paying $200-$300 dollars for grapewater and waiting 50-100 years for it to gain value didn't make economic sense. I could invest that cash in the market and get a better return.

 

[Fencer128]

well, I heard that the australian wine industry is giving the french wine industry a run for its money. and their cheaper. what's more, most of the high-end non-french wines have french-sounding name. I, too, was thinking of starting my own wine cellar, to sell to those hobbyists at a future date. But I changed my mind, fearing that my girlfriend's brother would come and drink away my future profits. And paying $200-$300 dollars for grapewater and waiting 50-100 years for it to gain value didn't make economic sense. I could invest that cash in the market and get a better return.

Yes - I'm not sure I could resist a wine cellar of my own.

As Wilde said:

"The only thing I cannot resist is temptation."

Andy

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Fencer128

me either. I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me. But I've always been interested in how people go into a tizzy over "great" wine.

Some have a wine hobby - which I guess can foster appreciation for the subtlties of wine most of us miss - others use wine as a status symbol, like a watch or a car. For them price and the perceived class of the wine is far more important than the taste.

Cheers,

Andy

than, with all their snobbery and and un-warranted arrogance, the french do stand a chance.

This brought to you from someone who thinks America ought to run the world no matter what the world thinks about it

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Corn]

I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me.

That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. Alcoholism is not a prerequisite for a sophisticated palate. Why would it not suprise me to learn that to you, a Macdonald's 1/4lb patty tastes the same as a medium rare filet mignon from Morton's or Ruth's Chris......

 

[Gand1]

French whines have been out classed for a couple of years now. If you want a good red go for a Austrailian or Chilean Shiraz.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Corn

I'm no alcoholic so they all taste the same to me.

That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. Alcoholism is not a prerequisite for a sophisticated palate. Why would it not suprise me to learn that to you, a Macdonald's 1/4lb patty tastes the same as a medium rare filet mignon from Morton's or Ruth's Chris......

lol. I didn't mean it like that.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

"Oh, you mean we have to pay a price for our indignation? Nobody told us that!"