French parliament adopts anti-headscarf bill on first reading

[heartsurgeon]

Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite

they've done the Huns one better....the "jwisch hat" (Euroweenie for yarmulke) is outlawed as well....
these are the people we sought approval from in the U.N?

 

[tnitsuj]

That's f$cked up. I am glad we have a Supreme Court to keep the will of the masses from overriding the rights of the minority.

 

[burnedout]

Did someone say "enlightenment"?

[you may now return to your regularly scheduled U.S.A. bashing already in progress]

 

[labrat25]

it's crazy, yet

but they've had so much religous trouble over the years it's understandable

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

You do remember when the German government paid Turks to go back where they came from, don't you?

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

You do remember when the German government paid Turks to go back where they came from, don't you?

Israel is considering a program to remove some of it's Arab citizens as well.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

USA: Anti-Muslim bias crimes rose 1700 percent after September 11

There have been press reports of more than fifteen arsons and attempted arsons that may be part of the post-September 11 backlash. Local law enforcement agents believe that fires at six houses of worship were September 11-related hate crimes. The other press-documented cases of arson involved places of business owned or operated by Muslims, Arabs, or those perceived to be Muslim or Arab. There have been three convictions and one indictment thus far for September 11-related arsons.

On September 15, 2001, James Herrick set fire to the Curry in a Hurry restaurant in Salt Lake City, Utah, causing minimal damage. Herrick admitted to setting the fire because he was angry over the September 11 attacks and knew the restaurant owners were from Pakistan. A federal district court in Utah sentenced him on January 7, 2001 to fifty-one months in jail

full report is here

cheers

:beer:

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
That's f$cked up. I am glad we have a Supreme Court to keep the will of the masses from overriding the rights of the minority.

Did they or did they not ban ALL forms of religious expression in school?
It is true that the law was passed in part to combat the rise in extreme muslim exposure in their country, but they did include all religious symbols when writing this law. The students are still free to wear whatever the moment they get out of the public school.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

USA: Anti-Muslim bias crimes rose 1700 percent after September 11


full report is here

cheers

:beer:

Yes, you are correct. I'll tell you a similar story.

During the Clinton administration, former FBI director Louis Freeh visited Germany on a "feel good" tour. At the time, Germany had caught considerable international criticism for hate crimes.

Director Freeh talked about the 300 or so hate crimes in Germany during one year. He then went on to reveal that over 1,200 hate crimes had been commited in the United States during the same period.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

USA: Anti-Muslim bias crimes rose 1700 percent after September 11


full report is here

cheers

:beer:

Yes, you are correct. I'll tell you a similar story.

During the Clinton administration, former FBI director Louis Freeh visited Germany on a "feel good" tour. At the time, Germany had caught considerable international criticism for hate crimes.

Director Freeh talked about the 300 or so hate crimes in Germany during one year. He then went on to reveal that over 1,200 hate crimes had been commited in the United States during the same period.

and your point is???

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
That's f$cked up. I am glad we have a Supreme Court to keep the will of the masses from overriding the rights of the minority.

Did they or did they not ban ALL forms of religious expression in school?
It is true that the law was passed in part to combat the rise in extreme muslim exposure in their country, but they did include all religious symbols when writing this law. The students are still free to wear whatever the moment they get out of the public school.

for now...

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite

they've done the Huns one better....the "jwisch hat" (Euroweenie for yarmulke) is outlawed as well....
these are the people we sought approval from in the U.N?

you also cannot burn the french flag in protest, or boo the french national anthem, both will get you a big fine and/or jail time.

yes all you leftists! let's make our country just like theirs!

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

you also cannot burn the french flag in protest, or boo the french national anthem, both will get you a big fine and/or jail time.

yes all you leftists! let's make our country just like theirs!

Qui Qui, monsier....and their government cheese tastes better than ours! Sign me up, please.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

you also cannot burn the french flag in protest, or boo the french national anthem, both will get you a big fine and/or jail time.

yes all you leftists! let's make our country just like theirs!

Oui Oui, monsieur....and their government cheese tastes better than ours! Sign me up, please.

just helping you out with your French

 

[SuperTool]

You know if we outlawed berettes, they would be all over us

 

[RabidMongoose]

Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausländers? out.

USA: Anti-Muslim bias crimes rose 1700 percent after September 11

There have been press reports of more than fifteen arsons and attempted arsons that may be part of the post-September 11 backlash. Local law enforcement agents believe that fires at six houses of worship were September 11-related hate crimes. The other press-documented cases of arson involved places of business owned or operated by Muslims, Arabs, or those perceived to be Muslim or Arab. There have been three convictions and one indictment thus far for September 11-related arsons.

On September 15, 2001, James Herrick set fire to the Curry in a Hurry restaurant in Salt Lake City, Utah, causing minimal damage. Herrick admitted to setting the fire because he was angry over the September 11 attacks and knew the restaurant owners were from Pakistan. A federal district court in Utah sentenced him on January 7, 2001 to fifty-one months in jail

full report is here

cheers

:beer:

"The federal government reported a seventeen-fold increase in
anti-Muslim hate crimes, from twenty-eight in 2000 to 481 in 2001."

Seems like it was pretty damn good in 2000. I guess it takes something 'catastrophic' to get people to become even crazier.

Your post was very misleading since you didn't even post the exact numbers. A 1700% increase seems like an epidemic, until you see that it's a 1700% increase from only 28!

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

see, why choose to ignore what the law is about. it only reffers to displaying religious signs/affiliation in public schools. there is no mention about displaying their faith in public and on the streets.
since public schools are government institutions and the french government is secular, i see this as a way for them to keep religions out of public schools.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

There was a thread about a German possible ruling in only outlawing the Muslim headscarf - and nothing else.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

There was a thread about a German possible ruling in only outlawing the Muslim headscarf - and nothing else.

It's only in one state in Germany.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

There was a thread about a German possible ruling in only outlawing the Muslim headscarf - and nothing else.

It's only in one state in Germany.

Thanks, but still a pretty horrible ruling if it goes through.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Bad ruling, but not nearly as bad as the German possibility that is in discussion.

Care to share?

<----Senses some mysterious explosions in downtown Paris when this is implemented

They were blowing up synagogues over the whole Palestine Israel thing, can you imagine when they can't even display their own faith

see, why choose to ignore what the law is about. it only reffers to displaying religious signs/affiliation in public schools. there is no mention about displaying their faith in public and on the streets.
since public schools are government institutions and the french government is secular, i see this as a way for them to keep religions out of public schools.

Have you ever tried to remove a devout Muslim's burka or head scarf? You'd have better luck talking Tammy Fae out of her knickers

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Each year in Germany, it seems, some poor Turkish family gets their house/apartment bombed by intolerant people; I guess the Turks served their purpose in helping Germany rebuild, but after that, many young Germans would rather have the ?Ausl&auml;nders? out.

USA: Anti-Muslim bias crimes rose 1700 percent after September 11

There have been press reports of more than fifteen arsons and attempted arsons that may be part of the post-September 11 backlash. Local law enforcement agents believe that fires at six houses of worship were September 11-related hate crimes. The other press-documented cases of arson involved places of business owned or operated by Muslims, Arabs, or those perceived to be Muslim or Arab. There have been three convictions and one indictment thus far for September 11-related arsons.

On September 15, 2001, James Herrick set fire to the Curry in a Hurry restaurant in Salt Lake City, Utah, causing minimal damage. Herrick admitted to setting the fire because he was angry over the September 11 attacks and knew the restaurant owners were from Pakistan. A federal district court in Utah sentenced him on January 7, 2001 to fifty-one months in jail

full report is here

cheers

:beer:

"The federal government reported a seventeen-fold increase in
anti-Muslim hate crimes, from twenty-eight in 2000 to 481 in 2001."

Seems like it was pretty damn good in 2000. I guess it takes something 'catastrophic' to get people to become even crazier.

Your post was very misleading since you didn't even post the exact numbers. A 1700% increase seems like an epidemic, until you see that it's a 1700% increase from only 28!

maybe a typo???

anti-islam crimes in california 2001 -- 73 cases

The first report was issued on October 11, 2001 once it was clear that a widespread backlash, numbering ten incidents per day, was occurring in California; the second was issued on December 11, 2001, after the backlash had significantly decreased to one incident per day.

I suck at math but - 1 incident a day (I'm conservative) equals several hundred a year in California ALONE

section: federal hate crime statistics

from the same section

Nevertheless, the study found that many of those jurisdictions had hate crimes that were not reported to the FBI. 251 This "false-zero" reporting to the FBI is so severe that the study estimated six thousand hate crimes, almost 75 percent again as much as the total number of hate crimes reported nationwide each year to the FBI, are not included in reports to the FBI

all figures are from the justice dep from their hate crime reports

I'm really not in the mood to have another discussion with you, after all I'm a racist European pig and whatever I post is crap

read the federal hate crime section on the hrw site and do some research on the justice dept site