French Newspaper Reports Osama bin Laden Has Died in Pakistan

Amused

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France Looks Into bin Laden Death Report
French Newspaper Says Terror Leader Died in Pakistan


PARIS (Sept. 23) - President Jacques Chirac said Saturday that information contained in a leaked intelligence document raising the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan last month is "in no way whatsoever confirmed."

Chirac said he was "a bit surprised" at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to probe how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press.

The regional newspaper l'Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died.

Officials from Afghanistan to Washington expressed doubts about the report.

Two American intelligence officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue said Saturday that U.S. agencies have no evidence to suggest a reason to believe that bin Laden is dead or dying.

The DGSE transmitted the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said.

"This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed," Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. "I have no comment."

A senior official in Afghanistan's Foreign Ministry said he was "very skeptical of the truthfulness" of the document, noting past false reports of the death of bin Laden. He declined to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly.

In Washington, Blair Jones, a presidential spokesman, said Saturday that the White House could not confirm the accuracy of the report that bin Laden may have died.

CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano also said he could not confirm the DGSE report.

The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet.

"We've seen nothing from any al-Qaida messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama bin Laden," IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press.

Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

"They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it," he said.

The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized the death of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. air strike in Iraq earlier that month.

Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit.

Putin suggested that leaks can be ways to manipulate. "When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially."

Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak.

"The information published this morning by the l'Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed," a Defense Ministry statement said.

The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source.

"According to a usually reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," said the intelligence report.

There have been periodic reports of bin Laden's illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate.

According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial.

"The chief of al-Qaida was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006," the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed.

The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden's alleged death on Sept. 4.

In Pakistan, a senior official of that country's top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden's whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Tasnim Aslam, called the information "speculative," saying that Pakistan like other countries was "clueless about him."

Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden's fate remained a mystery.

"Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan," Bentegeat said. "No one is completely certain that he is even alive."

 

Amused

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I thought this would have got at least one response.

Weird.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Amused
I thought this would have got at least one response.

Weird.

It's the French. We'll wait for someone with some credibility to report it :)
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Amused
I thought this would have got at least one response.

Weird.

It's the French. We'll wait for someone with some credibility to report it :)

I'll be glued to Fox News until I hear one way or the other.

Hah!
 

Howard

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<tinfoilhat>somebody infiltrated the US clinic and unplugged his life support</tinfoilhat>
 

classy

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Wouldn't that be ironic. If this is true, a simple disease did, what the most powerful country on the planet couldn't do, kill one man.
 

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Originally posted by: classy
Wouldn't that be ironic. If this is true, a simple disease did, what the most powerful country on the planet couldn't do, kill one man.

Yeah, but if it weren't for us he would have been able to get medical treatment. ;)

And we could have gotten him if we sent Dog the Bounty Hunter after him.
 

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: classy
Wouldn't that be ironic. If this is true, a simple disease did, what the most powerful country on the planet couldn't do, kill one man.

Yeah, but if it weren't for us he would have been able to get medical treatment. ;)

And we could have gotten him if we sent Dog the Bounty Hunter after him.


Yeah, but then you'd have the ACLU crying because Dog somehow violated UBL's rights! :)
 

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Originally posted by: classy
Wouldn't that be ironic. If this is true, a simple disease did, what the most powerful country on the planet couldn't do, kill one man.
There is no irony whatsoever. People are killed everyday inside the most powerful country in the world by "simple diseases"
 

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Saw this this morning, I think Pakistan has already said it's bs...?

EDIT:

Time magazine has no reported it also, they are quoting a DSGE report.
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: latino666
If he is dead does it change anything?

Some campaign banners and campaign speeches might need to be reworded, but other than that not much:p

just some more work for the secretaries ;) Cut and Replace in MS word :p
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: gsethi
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: latino666
If he is dead does it change anything?

Some campaign banners and campaign speeches might need to be reworded, but other than that not much:p

just some more work for the secretaries ;) Cut and Replace in MS word :p


I call it, 'campaign slogans for dummies' :p

America is about (insert American value here), and my fellow Americans, (insert evil dude here) is threatening our proud tradition of (insert American value here). We must wage a war of (insert agressive action here) so that the (insert some varriant of 'terrorist' here or shucks, just write 'terrorist') 's will not prevail against our great nation!
Vote for (incumbant)! He supports the fight against (insert hotbed issue here) !
Vote for (incumbant)! He supports the (insert working man/working woman/colelge students/minorities/wealthy who contribute the most to our failing tax system)!



Just a start so they have something to work with before mid-term elections;)