freedom of expression....dont some get it?

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mammador

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fyi in most western countries they have laws agaisnt inflammatory/hate speech. u can go to jail for say, speaking out against israel in countries like germany or france.

yes, i know. i dont think this constitutes hate speech.
 

TreVader

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actually, yes. freedom of expression means accepting points you don't like....if they don't like it, they can leave..

LOL. So you claim they hate "freedom of expression", every last muslim? And your message to these muslims is "if you don't like our views then leave!"?


Besides your Bigoted generalities drawn on 1.6 Billion followers of a certain religion being easily proven false ( if nothing else,on the fact that they are statistically impossible), it's also easy to prove you are a total hypocrite with this one sentence.



You want muslims to be tolerant, and you show this by being intolerant to muslims. :rolleyes:
 

mammador

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No, in fact, it's not, but only a relatively recent development of liberalism. Christian religions and European monarchies have historically been extremely opposed to freedom of expression, particularly of religion.

that's good....but i don't live in the 16th century.....

i think muslims are being too sensitive. that may seem insensitive, however part of freedom of expression is airing any view, in principle or practice. There is also intent. did Charlie Hebdo seek to marginalise Muslims? Or did they look out for just expressing their views?
 

mammador

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LOL. So you claim they hate "freedom of expression", every last muslim? And your message to these muslims is "if you don't like our views then leave!"?


Besides your Bigoted generalities drawn on 1.6 Billion followers of a certain religion being easily proven false ( if nothing else,on the fact that they are statistically impossible), it's also easy to prove you are a total hypocrite with this one sentence.



You want muslims to be tolerant, and you show this by being intolerant to muslims. :rolleyes:

humans are hypocrites......duh..
 

TreVader

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Yeah I'm 100% convinced this is a troll thread. Nobody could be this stupid.
 

mammador

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lololol....no, but then humans are hypocrites...but it's nice to see you so irate over nothing... My view is that Muslims are being too sensitive, it's just how freedom of expression works....duh...meh, i'm not bothered again..
 

Londo_Jowo

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i think Islamic Extremist are being too sensitive. that may seem insensitive, however part of freedom of expression is airing any view, in principle or practice.

FTFY

There is also intent. did Charlie Hebdo seek to marginalise Muslims? Or did they look out for just expressing their views?

No, they didn't seek to marginalize Muslims/Islam. However, they did know that the Quran forbids producing images of Muhammad and they're doing so would/could invoke strong emotions in some Muslims. Apparently they never thought that an Islamic extremist/s would actually act upon those emotions.
 

rudeguy

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FTFY



No, they didn't seek to marginalize Muslims/Islam. However, they did know that the Quran forbids producing images of Muhammad and they're doing so would/could invoke strong emotions in some Muslims. Apparently they never thought that an Islamic extremist/s would actually act upon those emotions.

No it doesn't.

You are once again speaking on something you are completely ignorant on, yet speaking as if you are informed.

At least read wiki? Please?

For fuck's sake.
 

umbrella39

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If Muslims dont like freedom of expression, why do they live in our societies?

This is part of the rigours of Western culture.....is it not?

This is P&N. This is neither politics nor news.

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