Freedom: How Does Your State Fare?

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T2urtle

T2urtle

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Oct 18, 2004
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Lol #41 IL

I knew we would be at the bottom. Everything is messed up and corrupt here.


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EagleKeeper

EagleKeeper

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#6 and #7 for me.

Suprised Co is that far up given the way the Dems have been driving the state recently.
 
IronWing

IronWing

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In this ranking scheme "freedom" seems to be freedom to exploit or freedom for the wealthy and powerful. A state that allows workers greater freedom to organize is ranked less free than a state that restricts workers' rights.
 
HAL9000

HAL9000

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gaidensensei said:
It is coherent. Perhaps you do not comprehend the short summary.
In other words: British parliament is terrible, CA "has a few over" (IE: implementing similar policies) and there is a rise in the law enforcement of the state.
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Ahh thanks for the translation, it made no sense to me.
 
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PrinceofWands

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IronWing said:
In this ranking scheme "freedom" seems to be freedom to exploit or freedom for the wealthy and powerful. A state that allows workers greater freedom to organize is ranked less free than a state that restricts workers' rights.
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This. It's an EXCEPTIONALLY biased system, touting almost straight free marketeer ideals. Just look at Vermont. 8th highest in higher education achievement, second lowest violent crime rate, sixteenth best in unemployment, sixteenth highest in home ownership, 2nd highest quality of life, etc. No, not top 5 in all, but overall VERY high rankings in most categories that would indicate opportunity and freedom.

Without question one of THE freest states ever, and shat upon almost entirely for not buying into the 'wealth first' corrupted economic ideology.
 
Hayabusa Rider

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IronWing said:
In this ranking scheme "freedom" seems to be freedom to exploit or freedom for the wealthy and powerful. A state that allows workers greater freedom to organize is ranked less free than a state that restricts workers' rights.
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Freedom is of course subjective. Some define it as democracy. Others as the right of self determination, which is of course subject to arbitrary limits. I suggest your definition is as arbitrary as any.

I've lived in NH and the official motto is "live free or die". It isn't "vacationland" on their license plates. The unofficial motto is "Welcome to NH, now go home" :p

I've also lived in VT, which is really two very different places. First is what I'll call the Burlington/Montpelier part and most of the rest of the state. The old saying is that the nice thing about Burlington is that it's so close to Vermont :D

Burlington and environs is the largest populated region in VT and is very liberal. A great many are there because IBM caused a huge transplantation of people to that area decades ago. A great many were San Fransisco liberals. Because of their numbers now they own Montpelier, the state capitol. That leaves a fairly libertarian group of people who are the original Vermonters being led by "foreigners" philosophically. It's a rather interesting situation.

You could try to force citizens of either state into one defining box, but you'll fail miserably.
 
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