Free pass on beating your partner...

Viper1j

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But only if you're gay.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...enforce-domestic-n1013796?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Tennessee DA under fire for saying he won't enforce domestic violence law for gays
In a video from 2018, Craig Northcott said of same-sex domestic violence cases: "There's no marriage to protect, so I don't prosecute them."

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Craig Northcott, a district attorney in Tennessee's Coffee County, a rural county between Nashville and Chattanooga, is facing calls to resign for saying he would not enforce domestic violence laws for people in same-sex marriages because he does not believe in same-sex marriage.

In a video filmed in 2018, Northcott faced a question from a constituent who asked about a “hypothetical” situation in which the federal government were to do something "ridiculous" and legalize same-sex marriage, which happened in 2015: “How as Christians do you think we should deal with all those situations?”


Northcott responded that “five people in black dresses rule us — it just takes five votes, it doesn’t take all nine,” referring to the five-justice majority that ruled in favor of gay marriage in 2015.

“DAs have what’s called prosecutorial discretion. Y’all need to know who your DA is. Y’all give us a lot of authority whether you know it or not," Northcott said. “We can choose to prosecute anything, we can choose not to prosecute anything, up to and including murder,” he said. “It’s our choice, unfettered.”

“So, to deal with that, you elect a good Christian man as DA, and you’ll make sure at least they don’t get prosecuted criminally,” Northcott said. He then transitioned: “Y’all know what assault is?

“There’s a subcategory of assault called domestic assault,” Northcott said. “But a domestic assault carries more punishment: You forever lose the right to own a gun under federal and state law, you have restrictions on your movement that you otherwise wouldn't have under what we call ‘simple assault’ and there are other enhanced punishments.”

“So the social engineers on the Supreme Court decided that we now have homosexual marriage. I disagree with them. What do I do with domestic assaults? One hand, I don’t prosecute them, because I don’t recognize it as marriage, on the other hand, if I don't prosecute them, then the sinner, the immoral guy, gets less punishment, what do you do?” Northcott asked.

Northcott said he concluded, based on his own analysis and not on the fact that domestic violence charges also apply for unmarried couples, that “the reason that there's enhanced punishment on domestic violence is to recognize and protect the sanctity of marriage. And I said, 'there's no marriage to protect.' So I don't prosecute them as domestics.”

“The point is,” Northcott said, “you need someone who will do an evaluation on those terms.”

Chris Sanders, executive director of statewide LGBTQ group Tennessee Equality, encouraged Northcott to step down.

"He should explore resigning from office at this point, because he has expressed very clearly that he will not apply the law equally, and we think that's his duty," Sanders said.

The video was released Monday by Tennessee Holler. It comes on the heels of another controversy for the district attorney. Just last week, the Center for American Islamic Relations filed a formal complaint against Northcott for his comments about Muslims.

CAIR alleges that Northcott, in sharing a series of Islamophobic posts on Facebook, “violated Rule 3.8 of the Tennessee Rules of Professional Conduct, a comment to which states that prosecutors are expected ‘to be impartial in the sense that charging decisions should be based upon the evidence, without discrimination or bias for or against any groups or individuals.’”

According to screenshots of the posts, Northcott wrote in a Facebook comment that Islam is "evil, violent and against God's truth" and that being Muslim is no different than "being part of the KKK, Aryan Nation, etc." Northcott made the comments while responding to a Republican candidate's post in late April.

Northcott later responded he would not resign and he would not apologize for calling out hate.

The Tennessee Republican Party did not immediately respond to NBC News' request for comment regarding Northcott's controversial remarks.
 

Thebobo

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Fanatic religious folks should not be allowed in the government unless the promise to follow the law of the people for the people.
 
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Um...aren't there OTHER laws that apply? You know like..assault...this guy's a dipshit, but I mean...wtf?

EDIT: Sorry I didn't read beyond the first few lines before I didn't care to read more.
 

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Probably doesn't prosecute others either.. just sits on his chair, watches fox news and gets paid to do nothing!
 

Viper1j

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Um...aren't there OTHER laws that apply? You know like..assault...this guy's a dipshit, but I mean...wtf?

EDIT: Sorry I didn't read beyond the first few lines before I didn't care to read more.

Then, you missed this:

“There’s a subcategory of assault called domestic assault,” Northcott said. “But a domestic assault carries more punishment: You forever lose the right to own a gun under federal and state law, you have restrictions on your movement that you otherwise wouldn't have under what we call ‘simple assault’ and there are other enhanced punishments.”

“So the social engineers on the Supreme Court decided that we now have homosexual marriage. I disagree with them. What do I do with domestic assaults? One hand, I don’t prosecute them, because I don’t recognize it as marriage, on the other hand, if I don't prosecute them, then the sinner, the immoral guy, gets less punishment, what do you do?” Northcott asked.
 

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what do you do?” Northcott asked.

What you do is boot your backwards hick ass out of office. Christians, such tolerance, acceptance, and non-judgyness.
 

allisolm

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Well, he said it all and it was immortalized in a video in 2018 and nothing has happened to him. He's still the DA.

Maybe this time it will be enough to get him ousted
 

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Gosh darnit I hate to defend this awfulness, but he didn't say he would fail to prosecute at all, just not as a domestic assault. It is still awful and a constitutional violation.

What struck me most in the article was this exchange:
Northcott responded that “five people in black dresses rule us — it just takes five votes, it doesn’t take all nine,” referring to the five-justice majority that ruled in favor of gay marriage in 2015.

“DAs have what’s called prosecutorial discretion. Y’all need to know who your DA is. Y’all give us a lot of authority whether you know it or not," Northcott said. “We can choose to prosecute anything, we can choose not to prosecute anything, up to and including murder,” he said. “It’s our choice, unfettered.”

“So, to deal with that, you elect a good Christian man as DA, and you’ll make sure at least they don’t get prosecuted criminally,” Northcott said.


Implicit in that is knowledge that his stance violates law and feels that it's his constituents' job to protect him from being held accountable for this violation. Where have we heard this before? This suggestion ought to cross anyone off any candidacy for any office regardless of any other factor. So severely toxic.
 
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The sooner we eradicate religion the better. Christians are disgusting humans.
Well, they aren't Christians, though.

Christians would read Matthew 25:41, and attempt to help people, because their GOD said that if you don't, well, you go to hell.

Most Republicans are Mammonites.

Mammonites worship Mammon, the wealthy who Mammon has blessed, and wealth itself. They pray to the InviisbleHand™ of the FreeMarket™, created by the almighty JobCreators™...Mammon's Holy Trinity. The acts of Mammon: tax cuts for the rich, and deregulation, are how his holy works are done here on earth by his blessed disciples

Republicans worship Mammon dressed up like Jesus. And their thought leaders have shit this into their brains for going on decades now, so they don't even see the difference.

Hilarious, and tragic.
 
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what do you do?” Northcott asked.

What you do is boot your backwards hick ass out of office. Christians, such tolerance, acceptance, and non-judgyness.

I'm sorry but we must protect his hate speech. Or else we'll be on the slippery slope to where people can't say that gay people deserve protections from assault or having their marriages be viewed as valid.
 

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I'm sorry but we must protect his hate speech. Or else we'll be on the slippery slope to where people can't say that gay people deserve protections from assault or having their marriages be viewed as valid.

We can protect his hate speech, and at the same time choose not to have him in office. No part of our conversation did I say we had to tolerate it. I said passing laws regarding it to limit free speech. Try to keep up.

EDIT: I realized later I left a big part of this out. Speech is one thing, actions is another. There's hopefully some anti-discrimination type laws in there to prevent him from doing what he's saying.
 
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Viper1j

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We can protect his hate speech, and at the same time choose not to have him in office. No part of our conversation did I say we had to tolerate it. I said passing laws regarding it to limit free speech. Try to keep up.

EDIT: I realized later I left a big part of this out. Speech is one thing, actions is another. There's hopefully some anti-discrimination type laws in there to prevent him from doing what he's saying.

How do you FORCE him to take a case to trial? If he doesn't want to do it, and you make him, he'll just screw the case to make sure there's an acquittal.
 

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When there is an officer involved shooting it's typically another jurisdiction that takes over the investigation to prevent bias.

On a case-by-case basis it would be practically impossible to overcome prosecutorial discretion.

But in a case like this where the prosecutor has publicly admitted to prejudiced treatment of alleged victims would a court be able to appoint an outside prosecutor to preserve those alleged victims' equal protection rights?
 

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How do you FORCE him to take a case to trial? If he doesn't want to do it, and you make him, he'll just screw the case to make sure there's an acquittal.

Don't many of them do that already? Seriously though, If he's not going to do his job, and do it justly, sounds like grounds to let him go. Separation of church and state and all that.
 

Viper1j

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You can't just "let go" of an elected official. They have to be recalled or impeached.
 

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“But a domestic assault carries more punishment: You forever lose the right to own a gun under federal and state law, you have restrictions on your movement that you otherwise wouldn't have under what we call ‘simple assault’ and there are other enhanced punishments.”

Is Craig offering advice to the spouse-beaters by implying that if they want to get violent with their spouse without losing their guns or freedom, the best thing they can do in his state is to get gay married?

Southerners are damned weird.
 

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Is Craig offering advice to the spouse-beaters by implying that if they want to get violent with their spouse without losing their guns or freedom, the best thing they can do in his state is to get gay married?

Southerners are damned weird.
from what I've read on this, is he also doesn't believe unmarried couples should be protected either.
 

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I'm not sure about bumfuck TN but I am pretty sure in most jurisdictions any dispute between 2 people would be considered a domestic dispute. Wasn't a Senator involved in a scuffle recently with his neighbor? I'm pretty sure that is being handled as a domestic dispute.
 

Viper1j

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No that was a State Rep. His wife didn't get naked fast enough, so he knocked her around. There was another female in the house, but they didn't say what her relationship was.
 
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