Free Lipitor, Viagra, 70 other drugs for jobless

[gcy]

Lost your job and you can lower your cholesterol and have a better sex lifr!

:laugh:

 

[AreaCode707]

If I were ever without health care for 3+ months I would go from functioning roughly around normal to no longer being able to walk or use my hands. It's the reason why I will never in my life be without health care, even if that means cleaning grease traps at McDonald's.

Good for Pfizer, and good business logic that this will do more for their image than a similarly-priced marketing campaign. A bit of proof that corporate America can sometimes act in the best interest of both shareholders and society at the same time.

 

[MovingTarget]

Heh, from what I've seen to get ANY help with prescription meds you have to be completely destitute. It makes good PR for the drug companies showing that 'they can help', but the reality is that most people are still left out in the cold.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in there endeavors for a profit.

Try that one again.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Heh, from what I've seen to get ANY help with prescription meds you have to be completely destitute. It makes good PR for the drug companies showing that 'they can help', but the reality is that most people are still left out in the cold.

It's true. Then you have medicare anyway if you are that bad off.

This is lip service, pure and simple. If you are very low income, sure the drugs are free, but you can't maintain the cost of doctor visits.

 

[frostedflakes]

Am I the only one who thought this was a spam thread? :laugh:

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
If I were ever without health care for 3+ months I would go from functioning roughly around normal to no longer being able to walk or use my hands. It's the reason why I will never in my life be without health care, even if that means cleaning grease traps at McDonald's.

Good for Pfizer, and good business logic that this will do more for their image than a similarly-priced marketing campaign. A bit of proof that corporate America can sometimes act in the best interest of both shareholders and society at the same time.

Being a type 1 diabetic Im in the same boat. I cannot go without insurance.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

Without profit; where does the research and testing for the new drugs come from

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

Without profit; where does the research and testing for the new drugs come from

Federal government of course It is the responsibility of the government to be all things to all people. Thats what a free society is all about.

(/sarcasm in case you missed it)

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Heh, from what I've seen to get ANY help with prescription meds you have to be completely destitute. It makes good PR for the drug companies showing that 'they can help', but the reality is that most people are still left out in the cold.

It's true. Then you have medicare anyway if you are that bad off.

This is lip service, pure and simple. If you are very low income, sure the drugs are free, but you can't maintain the cost of doctor visits.

Now now, you can't claim that nobody's benefiting from this. It may not benefit everyone, and it may not even benefit a significant portion of low income people, but it is going to benefit some. Behavioral modification works wonders on corporate America; praise them for the little they do and they call it a success and do more. Criticize them for the little they do and they call it a failure go back to doing nothing.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Am I the only one who thought this was a spam thread? :laugh:

Haha. That's what I though too. I just came in to see what the mod said when he locked it.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

Without profit; where does the research and testing for the new drugs come from

From the universities where most drugs are developed before Pfizer buys them from them and then sells them for $300 a bottle?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

Without profit; where does the research and testing for the new drugs come from

Federal government of course It is the responsibility of the government to be all things to all people. Thats what a free society is all about.

(/sarcasm in case you missed it)

sarcasm? what about all those wonderful drugs produced by the canadian health department? or the UK's NHS? how would we ever get along without them?

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

Without profit; where does the research and testing for the new drugs come from

From the universities where most drugs are developed before Pfizer buys them from them and then sells them for $300 a bottle?

Well, according to my Oncologist I will need to start taking a drug called Sutent after they remove my kidney. I can swing the $15,000 for the tets/CT scans/etc and the $40,000 to $50,000 for the surgery and hospital stay, but I just priced the pills and they cost $8600 for a one month supply.

Now WTF do I do?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I just priced the pills and they cost $8600 for a one month supply.

Apply for medicaid when you have no more money for drugs. You will be rejected so appeal and then you will be accepted. Hopefully the time between your running out of money and your getting medicaid are not to far between each other.

I suggest you sell everything and give it to mom/sister/guy you trust so that you can keep getting your life saving drugs while applying for government assistance.

I think everyone can agree that no one in our country should die because they couldn't afford necessary life-saving medicine.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

In other words...in your view, "There is no place in the world for drug companies" since the only reason private drug companies exist is to make a profit (duh). So are you in favor of having only the government do medical research?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

In other words...in your view, "There is no place in the world for drug companies" since the only reason private drug companies exist is to make a profit (duh). So are you in favor of having only the government do medical research?

Non profit organizations can still spend money to pay scientists to make drugs and then sell those drugs, the only limitation from the present system would be that they could not sell equity stakes and they would no longer be an entity designed for profit maximization but, rather, knowledge/health maximization.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

In other words...in your view, "There is no place in the world for drug companies" since the only reason private drug companies exist is to make a profit (duh). So are you in favor of having only the government do medical research?

Non profit organizations can still spend money to pay scientists to make drugs and then sell those drugs, the only limitation from the present system would be that they could not sell equity stakes and they would no longer be an entity designed for profit maximization but, rather, knowledge/health maximization.

So what non profits have the half billion it takes to get a drug to market, assuming it get's there at all?

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
There is no place in our world for drug companies that engage in their endeavors for a profit.

In other words...in your view, "There is no place in the world for drug companies" since the only reason private drug companies exist is to make a profit (duh). So are you in favor of having only the government do medical research?

Non profit organizations can still spend money to pay scientists to make drugs and then sell those drugs, the only limitation from the present system would be that they could not sell equity stakes and they would no longer be an entity designed for profit maximization but, rather, knowledge/health maximization.

So what non profits have the half billion it takes to get a drug to market, assuming it get's there at all?

I think the food, housing, energy, clothing, and transportation industries should all be nonprofit too. There's no place for profit in anything that people need to live.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If people make no profit, how do they do anything at all? If a drug company makes no profit, there is no money to invest in new medications. It doesn't exist. If there is no profit in housing, how does one buy the equipment to make them?

You are saying "Make things, but you cannot have the money to make them"

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
If people make no profit, how do they do anything at all? If a drug company makes no profit, there is no money to invest in new medications. It doesn't exist. If there is no profit in housing, how does one buy the equipment to make them?

You are saying "Make things, but you cannot have the money to make them"

Well, if you want to take things to the extreme then the flip side is that someone invents a pill that will double your life span but they will charge so much for it that most people won't be able to afford it.

If that's the case who gives a damn about their profit, R&D, etc.

The idea is that they make a "fair" profit but we trust the greedy bastards to determine what is fair? I would trust the government before I trusted the business making the profit.

They need regulated just like other utilities need regulated.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Am I the only one who thought this was a spam thread? :laugh:

No, I was coming in here to ban the OP and remove the thread. It is a good thing I read OPs

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
If people make no profit, how do they do anything at all? If a drug company makes no profit, there is no money to invest in new medications. It doesn't exist. If there is no profit in housing, how does one buy the equipment to make them?

You are saying "Make things, but you cannot have the money to make them"

Well, if you want to take things to the extreme then the flip side is that someone invents a pill that will double your life span but they will charge so much for it that most people won't be able to afford it.

If that's the case who gives a damn about their profit, R&D, etc.

The idea is that they make a "fair" profit but we trust the greedy bastards to determine what is fair? I would trust the government before I trusted the business making the profit.

They need regulated just like other utilities need regulated.

What gives us (government, people, whoever) the right to determine what is "fair" profit for efforts we had nothing to do with and a product that we don't produce? If we deem it crucial to be available to the public then our job is to find a way to procure it, not to legislate it away from the originators.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
If people make no profit, how do they do anything at all? If a drug company makes no profit, there is no money to invest in new medications. It doesn't exist. If there is no profit in housing, how does one buy the equipment to make them?

You are saying "Make things, but you cannot have the money to make them"

Well, if you want to take things to the extreme then the flip side is that someone invents a pill that will double your life span but they will charge so much for it that most people won't be able to afford it.

If that's the case who gives a damn about their profit, R&D, etc.

The idea is that they make a "fair" profit but we trust the greedy bastards to determine what is fair? I would trust the government before I trusted the business making the profit.

They need regulated just like other utilities need regulated.

What gives us (government, people, whoever) the right to determine what is "fair" profit for efforts we had nothing to do with and a product that we don't produce? If we deem it crucial to be available to the public then our job is to find a way to procure it, not to legislate it away from the originators.

If you take the feeling of respect and the "give-take" nature of society out of the picture it would be anarchy, and we'd just club them for it.

They are afforded the ability to run a company without fear of copycat drugs, intellectual property theft, and laws that protect their business.

In return they have to submit to laws that protect the consumer, and goodwill towards consumers.

We are a nation of much privilege, but a country has to be civilized to survive, and corporations run by citizens killing citizens is not civilized.