Free FULL SIZE Aflexa glucosamine (over-the-counter med for joints)

[CouponCollect]

No link for this one, you call in and talk to a real person!

1-800-788-1275 - Painless, and perfect for all you geeks with carpal tunnel syndrome out there, or tennis elbow for that matter - altho we all know its probably not from tennis!

This stuff is usually quite expensive.

Cheers to a painless holiday season!

 

[Dan]

CouponCollect: I thank you ... and my knees thank you...

 

[Maverick319]

Very cool, my Girlfriend takes this, among 300 other vitamins, and this stuff is EXPENSIVE. I asked the guy about selling my telephone number to telemarketers so he X'd it out. Looks like a great deal and its made by Tylenol. Nice find CC.

 

[crazyman]

from what i know i would avoid taking non-medically proven supplements...maverick...why does your g'friend take 300+ vitamins...i hope that this is under doctors orders. Does she know that overdoses on vitamins and mineral (even normal ones like iron) can be very harmful? Often the body cant even absorb these high levels of stuff and it is just wasted. The human body is designed to cope with certain materials within certain dosage limits...think about it...fat and carbos are a good thing to get but too much is very bad...I just hate when people assume that more must be better and everything natural must be good for you (snake venom is natural). Also, chondoitin sulfate and glucosamine might be in your joints but i guarantee that there is slim chance that these actually find their way from your intestines to your joints in one piece...and what if they find their way to you arteries in your heart...just think before hoping on the "all natural bandwagon"...

 

[Maverick319]

I was kidding about 300 vitamins a day, but she does take quite a few and glucosamine seemed to help her knee when she fell. I have never been one to do anything in moderation, especially computer stuff, but crazyman has a point about taking too much of something can be harmful. So, do your research before taking anything. I have often said that if someone offered free dogshite online, someone would have to order just because it was free.

 

[VisionsUCI]

just called to get mine... the lady on the other end was pretty nice. more free stuff!

 

[cremefilled]

crazyman said:
"Also, chondoitin sulfate and glucosamine might be in your joints but i guarantee that there is slim chance that these actually find their way from your intestines to your joints in one piece...and what if they find their way to you arteries in your heart...just think before hoping on the "all natural bandwagon"..."

Hoo boy...
Do some research yourself, before casting scare-mongering aspersions. Both of those supplements are well researched. It's ridiculous to never take a supplement because you are waiting for doctor's orders. Ask your doctor how much training he or she received in non-prescription supplements (probable answer: none).

I'm sure it's pointless to write further, as your mind is bear-trap-snapped-shut closed already. I'm not an apologist for every supplement out there, but unthinking absolutism on either side of the fence is really a pet peeve of mine.

 

[aCiDReflux]

What company is this sending this out? Do you have a link to a list of indgredients? Yes, I do check out my medicines thuroughly(wiah I could spell that right, argh). As a student-athelete I have to. And my joints probably hurt as bad as a 60 year old man right now.
Everyone has opinions and some are more oppinionative than others. I have my pet peeves myself but think before you act also. I believe crazyman was trying to only help by showing his opinion as stated in the tone of the last few words. It also sounds like you need some free deals on Saint John's Wort(for what that's worth) cremefilled. Chilll, there has been way to much flaming going on around here as a general. chillll
Anyway, I remember skipping over a few articles on the supplement but can't remember where, so any links? Thanks.

 

[hanybanoub]

well said cremefilled

 

[Sesopedalian]

Physicians will recommend glucosamine to patients. However, I certainly would believe a physician if he/she did not recommend this supplement in an individual patient evaluation.

 

[crazyman]

cremefilled...i'm sorry if i sounded harsh...i didn't mean anything but friendly advice...i realize i might have sounded too one sided but i was just trying to make a point))
1)i am not close minded...I understand that there are some VERY GREAT dietary supplements out there and don't mean to harp on all of them
2)however, please do realize the inherent dangers of taking non-fda-approved drugs and some dietary supplements...fda approval requires very strenuous and scientific long term studies...we often assume that our bodies can handle this stuff but our bodies are very picky...people often claim to have run good tests but a simple study can be a poor judge of performance
3)dont knock medicine...medicine is a science and as such is the best source for data on medications and supplements...maybe ask your doctor to recommend a good expert in dietary supplements
4)one quick example of seemingly safe stuff-CREATINE- claimed to be safe- but it has been definitely linked liver damage and liver cancer...(not good stuff(

please don't flame me again (maverick and acidrefluc thank you for the nice and nonflaming relplys!)...this site has way too much flaming going on...i just want to help people stay safe...definitely research any drug (including prescribed ones!) for yourself but remember that not all drugs are good for you...

my credentials(not the greatest but o.k.)- b.a. in biochem. minor in math and biology at Baylor U.(3.9/4.0 gpa) (actually one more semester but close enough))
also recently accepted to med. school

 

[colossus]

OK, I haven't had much training on this in med school, but our prof did talk about it for an hour. There is no real threat of toxicity with this supplement, so you don't need to worry about being pregnant or hepatically/renally compromised and so forth. The only thing is most glucosamine supplements are of poor quality and only 5% of what needs to get to your joints does. Check for the purity on the label (if it's there) to see if it's even worth your time in taking these when you get 'em.

 

[Maverick319]

The guy on the phone said this was from the makers of TYLENOL. This doesn't appear to be some holistic generic crap but the real thing. Order it, if it sucks, throw it away. Simple.

 

[cremefilled]

OK, no flaming, but crazyman, you said,
"one quick example of seemingly safe stuff-CREATINE- claimed to be safe- but it has been definitely linked liver damage and liver cancer...(not good stuff("

Now, one might construe that statement as the worst sort of flame: supplements leading to disease and even death (just as your initial post implied for glucosamine/chondroitin). To make such a strong statement, you must have read some credentialed sources that substantiate those charges. So I would simply and politely ask you to back them up with any sort of peer-reviewed research. There is tons of information of the Internet about creatine, so surely this won't be a problem.

 

[Mercenary]

I just ordered mine was very easy and painless... Thanks!

 

[crazyman]

when i originally talked about glucosamine i didn't intend to say that that stuff was necessarily bad and if it sounded that way then i apoligize. I just wanted to issue a general caveat to people and used gluc. as a general example(but a poor one i admit). Some people take any and every dietary supplement on the market and think it is safe and i just wanted to make sure that people realize that not all of them are safe(but some are great!). I didn't want to scare anyone but just think proper caution is necesary.

about the creatine stuff- i asked my father 3 years ago when i was weight lifting if i could take that stuff...he said no b/c it has been linked to liver damage and maybe other stuff but i don't remember what else he said...so my father's credentials-he graduated in the top 2 or 3 in his med. school class and did his pediatric residency at Vanderbilt (top ped. prog. at the time). He has been in private practice for a while and is the vice-pres. of the state American Academy of Pediatrics. He has been a guest speaker at many nationwide pediatric meetings and was recently voted the best pediatrician in the country by a parenting magazine. He is part of the pediatric teaching program at UMC. This is not any where near all that he is but it is some of the highlights. He is considered a top expert in his field and is the most caring man you have ever met(love my dad). Although he is no expert in all alternative medicines, he does know about some of them and what he says is considered an expert opinion by other doctors. I hope this is good enough b/c there really isn't anything better. I'm sorry i can't give you a printed source but i know he drew his info from a published medical journal. I would be careful gathering info from the internet b/c i've also read internet articles saying that ectasy(spellin?) is completely harmless (even though it has been declared the cause of some deaths) ...wheww...this has turned out into a lenghty letter...

 

[Sinner]

I'd just like to say that glucosomine is the miracle cure for joint trouble. At least for me.

I've suffered from severe knee pain and joint instability for years since dislocating and damaging both my knees. I opted to avoid surgery since it doesn't really bother me to much except during weather changes(rain, snow, and so on).

After taking this stuff for about 2 weeks I have no problems at all. If I stop taking it the symptoms resume after a couple of weeks.

I'd highly recommend it to anyone. As always you should check with your doctor first though.

 

[crazyman]

sounds like glucosamine is pretty good then! i hope my knees stay o.k....my g'friend always wants to go skiing but im too afraid of blowing out a knee...(or hitting a tree hehe)

 

[cremefilled]

crazyman, your dad sounds like an impressive guy, and I don't in any way desire to demean him or you, but creatine has been studied at great length for the last 70 years, and there has never been a peer-reviewed study showing the negative effects you cite (or much of any negative effects--except for hypothesized ones in those with renal deficiencies). I'm not a trained expert, but I have spent maybe 40-50 hours reading about creatine, including several books and reading the originals of the major studies. Your father would doubtless know more about the modalities of medicines and supplements, but any intelligent layman can read the research and look at the conclusions. That is the primary source--the real science.

Believe me, as popular as creatine is, if it really caused hepatic cancer, it would be well known. Tens of millions of people have taken it, and it has frequently been written about in the popular press, which loves nothing more than to present alarmist views. Those views just can't be found in the scientific community.

I apologize if I caused offense, but it appears to me that you are the real "flamer," having twice asserted that specific supplements can cause life-threatening illnesses without, IMO, reasonable bases for those assertions. If I challenge you to back that up, that is not a flame.

Btw, I agree with being cautious about supplements, so we agree on the majority of issues here. I just think you went overboard in the specifics.

 

[jayR]

Another anicdote for glucosamine. I have arthritis in my upper back and had a ruptured disk removed in my lower back. Both gave me much less pain after taking glucosamine for about 3 weeks. I take 2 pills a day, instead of the recommended 3 pills. I generally am skeptical and cautious about diatery supplements. I think most of them are BS or cons. I know this stuff has not been carefully studied for long term effects yet. Since I wasn't the first to start using it, and I take a lower dose, I hope if any bad effects surface I can quit before I get hit.

Crap shoot: Feel better now. Risk: Possible long term problems.

Wish me (and everyone else) luck.