Free Citizenships and Cigarettes Given To Entice Gore Voters. (YOUR Tax Dollars At Work!)

DirkBelig

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The article.

A snip:

Memos to Gore and to President Clinton by eager staff members cited the need to naturalize a million new voters for the 1996 election, with one urging Gore to pressure the INS to ''waive any INS rules, provided they stay within the law.'' Gore's e-mail response: ''We'll explore it. Thanks.''

Another memo, to Clinton, declared, ''You asked us to expedite the naturalization of nearly a million legal aliens who have applied to become citizens.'' The memo suggested options that included ''Lower[ing] the standards for citizenship,'' but also expressed this concern: ''INS warns that if we are too aggressive at removing the roadblocks to success, we might be publicly criticized for running a pro-Democrat voter mill.''

Thanks to such pressure, the INS swore in 1,044,689 new citizens in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 1996. But relaxing the rules exacted a cost.

In the process, INS neglected to do fingerprint checks on about 180,000 of the applicants that year. A later check discovered that at least 80,000 had criminal records, and 6,300 of those had commited serious crimes.


Win at all costs. Say anything to win. Give free goodies to immigrants in exchange for voting against native-born people.

Democrats. Yeah, we've got that.:|

(Ironic detail: How many of you Dem-lovers supported sending Elian back because we couldn't afford to support all the people who wanted to come and go on welfare?)

UPDATED:
Free smokes too!

Snip:

Campaign volunteers for the Democratic Presidential campaign were discovered distributing cigarettes to homeless voters after the volunteers had recruited the homeless specifically for their vote Saturday.

WISN 12 News caught workers for Vice President Al Gore's campaign giving packs of cigarettes to homeless voters that they had transported to cast absentee ballots.


Super-ironic that Gore is anti-tobacco, but is willing to uses smokes as a payoff. Heh...
 

BoberFett

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BoberFett waits patiently for the flaming liberals to bash the Boston Globe as a conservative rag...
 

Pennstate

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OK, the Republican Party bashes immigrants and treat them like second-class ctizens by trying to deny them education and social services. And you wonder why they are voting for the Democrats? You guys need some F-ing common sense.
 

Chef0083

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is F-ing Common sense the same as Freaken common sense? I get that sometimes,, just curious.





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AndrewR

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People who are here illegally should not be here. Is that so hard to understand? Why should we extend government services to those who defy our government by failing to go through the proper channels in obtaining citizenship, paying taxes, etc.? I see no problem there.

Millions of people have gone through the proper methods in emigrating to this country -- why do certain classes of people need exceptions now? What has changed so drastically?

Interesting articles.
 

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Reagun/Bush did the same thing with Hispanics from Cuba here in the '80's. One of the best ways RepubliKlans lie is when they express outrage about Clinton doing something that RR and GW had done before.
 

Pennstate

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"Millions of people have gone through the proper methods in emigrating to this country"


Yeah, I am one of them. DO you think legal immigrants are blind to the REpublican party's hostility toward immigrants (legal/illegal)? They have never been friendly to legal immigrants, eventhough they pay the same taxes. So now that legal immigrants become citizens, and exercise their right to voice their feelings and opinions in the polls. And you feel like this is a scandal? It seems to me that you're implying that naturalized citizens are uneducated voters. Your underlying prejudices are apparent to me.
 

Pennstate

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"Free Citizenships"

THat's a pretty ignorant comment by itself. You have no f-ing idea how long and expensive the naturalization process is.
 

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Of course Dirk doesn't think you will read the body of the article if he takes his biased excerpts out as being the focal point.

From the body of the article:

''Both welfare reform and Proposition 187, both highly identified as Republican initiatives, made new citizens much more likely to become Democrats,'' Fix said. ''Such initiatives have not just given immigrants the incentive to naturalize, but the incentive to vote as well.''

And....

''Both parties show up at swearing-in ceremonies to try to register voters,'' said William A. Carrick, a California Democratic consultant. ''There is a Democratic table and a Republican table. Ours has a lot of business. Theirs is like the Maytag repairman.''

and....

This time around, House Republican officials say they have no evidence of impropriety.

 

DirkBelig

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Cubans support Republicans because the GOP is anti-Communist and support the downfall of Castro. BIG difference from the Dems want to give freebies to ILLEGAL immigrants in exchange for their votes.

We are a nation of immigrants, but there are LEGAL CHANNELS through which they can come to America (NO! Cubans can't legally immigrate so shut up you Elian-go-homers!) instead of jumping the border to bog down our welfare system, hospitals and schools, increasing costs to LEGAL immigrants and native-born Americans.

If I walked into your house and started going through your fridge, you wouldn't like it, so why do liberals insist on calling people who'd like to tighten the border and stop the freebies to illegals "heartless and cruel"?
 

Pennstate

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Hey Dirk, you moron, Reread the article. These people are all LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! Your racist mind just assumed they are illegal.
 

Pennstate

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There is no evidence that the surge this year and last is prompted by anything other than a large backlog of applicants: Legal aliens seeking citizenship status in record numbers, often out of fear they will be cut off from government services. Citizenship for many has become decidedly more valuable than a green card.

From the same article. Dirk, you are one of the reasons that I support abortion rights.
 

DirkBelig

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Hey, MORON...UNDERSTAND what the article is saying. Citizenship=Goodies. Bumrushing as many people through the system with the promise of a spot at the trough isn't right.

The Democrats ENTIRE base is becoming people looking for handouts from someone else and the Dems are more than happy to promise it. "Black? We'll take money from Whitey for you. Women? We'll make anything a guy does a crime and you can have his job. Unions? We'll make sure that the company makes no profit and you'll get top-dollar pay for the least work you can get away with. Poor? We'll take the rich people's money and give you some. All you need to do is VOTE FOR US. Who needs opportunity when you can get entitled?"

Bah!
 

AndrewR

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<< Yeah, I am one of them. DO you think legal immigrants are blind to the REpublican party's hostility toward immigrants (legal/illegal)? They have never been friendly to legal immigrants, eventhough they pay the same taxes. So now that legal immigrants become citizens, and exercise their right to voice their feelings and opinions in the polls. And you feel like this is a scandal? >>



I responded to your comment about immigrants and then responded to the articles themselves. Those comments are not really related, however. They are interesting articles, regardless.

In any event, could you care to cite any instances of hostility toward legal immigrants in Republican policies? From your perspective, you should have some, but I honestly am unfamiliar with any. In fact, Bush Sr., a Republican, instituted an amnesty for illegal immigrants back around '90 if I'm not mistaken, that allowed a large number of immigrants to gain U.S. citizenship.

I think that hostility to ILLEGAL immigrants, if you want to term it &quot;hostility&quot;, is perfectly justified given the lack of respect they have shown for the country that they wish to call home. If there is such resistance to the laws of their adopted country in regards to legal entry, why should they be allowed to stay?



<< It seems to me that you're implying that naturalized citizens are uneducated voters. Your underlying prejudices are apparent to me. >>


WTF? Seems like you're reading much more into what I wrote. My grandmother emigrated to this country when she was 6. All of my family roots can be traced back to Europe within the last 100 years or so. I acknowledge the need for immigrants and the history of them in this country. However, IT MUST BE THROUGH LEGAL MEANS. Regardless of how the Republican Party feels, that is my position. It has nothing to do with intelligence, racism, or elitism and everything to do with the rule of law.
 

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<< OK, the Republican Party bashes immigrants and treat them like second-class ctizens by trying to deny them education and social services. >>


From the George Bush web site:
Welcoming legal immigrants: Governor Bush is committed to welcoming new Americans with respect and open arms, and to comprehensive INS reform to change the policies that create needless obstacles to legal immigrants and that frustrate family reunification.

Enforcing the border: Because it is a federal responsibility to secure the border, Governor Bush supports increased efforts along the border, such as ?Operation Hold the Line? that have been successful in El Paso, Texas at limiting illegal immigration.

Encouraging free trade: Governor Bush understands that a healthy Mexico is good for America and that family values do not end at the Rio Grand River. He believes the long-term solution to illegal immigration is increased trade with Mexico. Free trade is the best way for Mexico to grow a strong middle class and improve the quality of life so that fewer people will want to leave.

Expanding temporary visas: Governor Bush supports expanding the H-2A temporary agricultural workers program so that willing workers can provide much needed help to America?s farmers, and increasing the number of H-1B visas so that we can fill the need for more high-tech workers in our vibrant economy. He believes, however, that the long-term solution to the increasing demand for skilled workers is to improve America?s public schools. That is why he has proposed a comprehensive education reform plan.


Doesn't sound like &quot;bashing immigrants&quot; to me.
 

PCAddict

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Nice piece of info, Napalm381. That pretty much sums it up. I too don't see any problem with Bush's views in this area.
 

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If most people understood Gov. Bush's platform they would support him. I really doubt that most of the democrats on this board have even read or understand his positions on the issues.

Anyone who types &quot;RepubliKlans&quot; deserves my scorn for trying to assiociate the Republican party of Lincoln with the KKK. Idiots.
 

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If Gov. Bush understood his platform it would help and the Republican Party of Lincoln has not existed for a looooong time.

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SuperTool

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Republicans bashing immigrants again. So easy to pick on people who don't vote. And when they do get the right to vote, well that's just a democratic plot. :) At least now the Rs get it. Going to CA reaching out to immigrant votes. I got two words for them: Pete Wilson.
 

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About the smokes:

Just reading the snip in the post told me that the volunteers, not Al Gore bought smokes for the homeless. So I clicked the link and read on . . .

After viewing WISN 12's video tape, a local representative of the Gore campaign issued a response to the democratic campaigners who distributed the cigarettes.

&quot;This kind of activity described by Channel 12 is not the kind of help we ask for and it's the kind of help we flat-out reject. These volunteers were from out of state, acting on their own and this was not part of any official Democratic 'get out the vote' activity in Wisconsin. They have left the state and we will not invite them to return,&quot; wrote Susan Lagana, a spokeswoman for the Democratic Coordinated Campaign.

Copyright 2000 by TheMilwaukeeChannel.com.


The campaign volunteers did wrong, and the campaign directors let the volunteers know that &quot;help&quot; of that kind was not needed. Al Gore had nothing to do with it.
 

AndrewR

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<< Republicans bashing immigrants again. So easy to pick on people who don't vote. >>


Illegal immigrants do not belong here. That's why they are illegal. Of course, with Clinton the poster child for Democrats these past eight years, it's easy to understand why Dems don't understand the concept of illegality. What's the definition of &quot;is&quot;?

It's funny because the independent counsel law was allowed to lapse this year. It makes sense, though, since the next president will likely OBEY the law or at least appoint an Attorney General who might enforce it. Then again, if it's Gore...



<< Just reading the snip in the post told me that the volunteers, not Al Gore bought smokes for the homeless. >>


Well, no sh|t. Of course they denied any involvement with it and blamed it on others with no connection to the campaign. Are you surprised? We'll never know where the idea came from and who ratified those actions, but it was done by Democrats, be they out of state or in state. Maybe it was Tennessee tobacco! :D