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Free alternatives to Windows Home Server?

XMan

Lifer
I've tried to get in the WHS beta, but no love just yet. I'd like to get my server up and running to use for my MCE box, but without software I don't have much to do!

Any suggestions?
 
The real magic of Home Server is the Drive Extender and backup technologies. I don't think there is much else out there that can do those things as well as WHS, and without that, you're left with basically just a vanilla file server.
 
The only problem with FreeNAS is that it's software RAID, right? I have a bunch of drives, of various sizes, that I'd like to use. Software RAID cuts me down to the smallest drive size. WHS is more like JBOD with redundancy.
 
Originally posted by: XMan
The only problem with FreeNAS is that it's software RAID, right?

FreeNAS can use any hardware RAID controller supported by FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/hardware-i386.html#DISK

The real problem with FreeNAS is that it doesn't support NTFS writing yet.

You're also not limited to FreeNAS. All you really want is an OS, preferably with NTFS support for Windows, Samba (for file sharing with Windows), hardware RAID, and whatever other features you want, like some Linux-based media center software or something.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/network/...-Cheap-Fast-RAID-NAS-ftopict21857.html
 
The goal is to do this as cheaply as possible . . . . $200+ RAID cards doesn't exactly work for that. 😉

My best bet may just be to wait for WHS, as I really like the way it handles storage.
 
Originally posted by: JohnDoe2
Originally posted by: XMan
The only problem with FreeNAS is that it's software RAID, right?

FreeNAS can use any hardware RAID controller supported by FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/hardware-i386.html#DISK

The real problem with FreeNAS is that it doesn't support NTFS writing yet.

You're also not limited to FreeNAS. All you really want is an OS, preferably with NTFS support for Windows, Samba (for file sharing with Windows), hardware RAID, and whatever other features you want, like some Linux-based media center software or something.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/network/...-Cheap-Fast-RAID-NAS-ftopict21857.html

Why would a linux or BSD server need ntfs write support? I'm serious in this question...you use samba or nfs to talk to servers, why would the server need to write directly to ntfs?
 
Originally posted by: XMan
The only problem with FreeNAS is that it's software RAID, right? I have a bunch of drives, of various sizes, that I'd like to use. Software RAID cuts me down to the smallest drive size. WHS is more like JBOD with redundancy.

Not sure if it supports software JBOD or not. I'm using a RAID PCI card. You may want to consider OpenSolaris with the ZFS file system; you can do some pretty nifty things as far as expanding it, plus Samba can run on it.
 
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: bwatson283
Linux is free! 🙂

But can it serve as network storage for an HTPC? 😉

Yes, Yes, and YES, it can. This thread was what first set me on creating a new MythTV backend server with software raid. I've been running a raid5 array for almost a week capturing 2 analog and 1 HD stream without any huge issues yet. The original poster in that thread is doing considerably more than I am without any issues.
 
Originally posted by: Praetor
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: bwatson283
Linux is free! 🙂

But can it serve as network storage for an HTPC? 😉

Yes, Yes, and YES, it can. This thread was what first set me on creating a new MythTV backend server with software raid. I've been running a raid5 array for almost a week capturing 2 analog and 1 HD stream without any huge issues yet. The original poster in that thread is doing considerably more than I am without any issues.

I'm not using Myth, I'm using MCE.
 
Linux software raid is so freaking configurable and flexible that it's not even funny....between Software raid, and LVM, you can do anything you want.
 
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: Praetor
Originally posted by: XMan
Originally posted by: bwatson283
Linux is free! 🙂

But can it serve as network storage for an HTPC? 😉

Yes, Yes, and YES, it can. This thread was what first set me on creating a new MythTV backend server with software raid. I've been running a raid5 array for almost a week capturing 2 analog and 1 HD stream without any huge issues yet. The original poster in that thread is doing considerably more than I am without any issues.

I'm not using Myth, I'm using MCE.

Change. 😛
 
Maybe the real question should be is there anything in the *nix or BSD world that can compete with the storage offerings of WHS. I like the storage technology featured, as it gives me a good use for a bunch of older smaller drives (talking 80's and 120's here). I have no need to spend that kind of money on a hardware controller as the backup doesnt need to be lightning fast, I just want to be able to use the disks with some redundancy. If the OP is using an MCE box already, then he really has no need to change, he is just wants somewhere to eventually store the files. I know that is my dilemma as well. I dont midn paying for WHS when it gets here if it's worth it, but if there is a Linux or BSD alternative Id like to test that out as well.
 
Originally posted by: nweaver
Linux software raid is so freaking configurable and flexible that it's not even funny....between Software raid, and LVM, you can do anything you want.

Including JBOD (just to clarify for the op).
 
What you CAN'T do with Windows Home Server.

Wifi is "too complicated" to do on a box without a keboard/mouse/monitor, so WHS only supports hardwired Ethernet.

WHS doesn't have any power management, so your drives will run 24/7.

WHS doesn't support RAID because "existing drive mirroring is too fragile".



Doesn't sound too useful to me...better to try some of the free *nix options instead really.
 
There is no such product called Vista Home Server. Windows Home Server is based on Server 2003.

RAID is much too complex for the target market, especially when it comes to expanding storage space. WHS allows you to pop in a new drive, whether it be internal ATA or SATA, or external USB or firewire and that's it.

The Wifi thing seems way overblown. WHS is designed to be small and headless, so it's perfect for sticking in a closet or something similar where the router likely is. Very simple to connect a patch cable to the router.

I'm not sure what any of what you posted has to do with the OP.
 
Fixed the link above, sorry...give it a read, its interesting.

Its offered as additional info concerning WHS to help in the decision making process, thats all.

There are many free *nix options out there, no real dedicated MCE-type server distro is needed really, most can do it, its just a matter of choosing one that fits the user's preferences.
 
The OP has already stated that he is looking for a WHS alternative (it's the title of the post). I'm not sure how pointing out what WHS doesn't do helps that request.

As I alredy stated, a simple Windows file server or Linux file server with Samba will be fine for Media Center. Media Center cannot record to a network share, but it can point to a network share as a "watched" location that contains programs that have already been recorded. Storing pictures and music on a network share will also work fine.
 
Originally posted by: stash
The OP has already stated that he is looking for a WHS alternative (it's the title of the post). I'm not sure how pointing out what WHS doesn't do helps that request.

As I alredy stated, a simple Windows file server or Linux file server with Samba will be fine for Media Center. Media Center cannot record to a network share, but it can point to a network share as a "watched" location that contains programs that have already been recorded. Storing pictures and music on a network share will also work fine.

There's a reg hack and a batch file to do it. Probably why I'll just wait for WHS to come out . . .
 
Originally posted by: stash
The OP has already stated that he is looking for a WHS alternative (it's the title of the post). I'm not sure how pointing out what WHS doesn't do helps that request.

As I alredy stated, a simple Windows file server or Linux file server with Samba will be fine for Media Center. Media Center cannot record to a network share, but it can point to a network share as a "watched" location that contains programs that have already been recorded. Storing pictures and music on a network share will also work fine.


Perhaps you should actually read the complete thread as well as the link I posted...the OP has also stated that he is indeed considering WHS so I was only offering a bit more info that could possibly be of use in the decission, nothing more.

If you can't figure that out, its your problem.:roll:

XMan, good luck with your setup, I hope you find something that suits your needs.

 
Hey OP, just FYI - FreeNAS does have a software JBOD option, saw it when I was poking around the other day 🙂
 
Anything that has the functionality to be a home server and allow me to login locally to burner items from the server?
 
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