France shuts down 3 mosques, 334 weapons seized since Paris attacks

[SP33Demon]

Looks like France has finally woken up. How long before other Western countries do the same?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-02-08-35-28

PARIS (AP) -- The latest on the recovery from and investigation into the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris that killed 130 people. All times local:

2:35 p.m.

French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve says three mosques have been shut down in France since the Paris attacks as part of a crackdown on extremist activities.

Cazeneuve told reporters it was the first time mosques are being closed in France "on grounds of radicalization."

One of the mosques, 35 kilometers (22 miles) east of Paris in Lagny-sur-Marne, was targeted by raids early Wednesday, with police seizing a 9mm revolver, a computer hard disc and jihadist propaganda. Cazeneuve said the mosque also had a non-authorized Quranic school.

One person was placed in custody following the raids, with 22 others banned from leaving France. Nine others were put under house arrest.

The two other mosques, in Lyon and Gennevilliers in the Paris region, were shut down last week amid a state of emergency.

Cazeneuve says police have seized 334 weapons since the Nov. 13 attacks that left 130 people dead in Paris.

The funny thing is that muslims think their speech is protected in EU countries, such as videos I've seen from the U.K. completely talking shit about their countries and making radical threats openly. They can keep doing that and see what governments will do to their jihad breeding grounds, aka mosques. Shut.Them.the.Fuck.Down. Rights? What rights? Those went out the window with the violence. Let's see how long the U.S. puts up with it, especially now that a muslim has killed in California with his new Saudi bride.

Attack the ideology and the violence goes away. Muslims need to seriously be thinking of a way to change some of their source texts. With ISIS' caliphate, things are only going to get worse before they get better. First, I'd rip ISIS' land away thereby invalidating the caliphate (invalidates their jihad on western countries). Next, get Muslim world leaders to re-examine the Koran.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

 

[SP33Demon]

Good post, very true. Apparently these radical imams didn't get the memo.

Listen to this crazy imam fuck from London who is mentoring young men at his mosque as we speak. The next major attack in Britain will probably come from his mosque.
https://youtu.be/pwIXBRZi2jE
https://youtu.be/m3xuj-aJyaE

There are other crazy fuckers like this from France, Germany, Sweden etc radicalizing young men.

Any mosque advocating sharia law such as death to adulterers and gays needs to be shut down, period. To hell with rights, Islam is not a religion.

 

[werepossum]

I seriously doubt that the US does anything for the next couple years except try to disarm law abiding citizens. Four military recruiters were murdered by an Islamic terrorist and the official change was permission to draw the blinds. Fort Hood was attacked by an Islamic terrorist who murdered thirteen and the official response was to call it workplace violence. This is nothing more than another school shooting to Obama, just an opportunity to break the Second Amendment.

Even if a wild card like Trump gets elected, America is limited in ways Europe is not. We have guarantees of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to bare arms. While those are under fire, the people most assaulting them would never do anything against Muslims. A President Trump would find himself opposed by law as well as people from both sides of the political spectrum. Even if we suffer an attack as bad as did Paris, I can't see us doing widespread raids on mosques. And even if we did somehow get together for a France-like response, how would our rights survive such wholesale abatement? Vic is right, the only way we would see a response like France's is if we were in a war where our survival as a nation is threatened.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

More info about these weapons and how they acquired them would be nice. It doesn't say much if France is just kicking down the doors of every Muslim family and confiscating whatever trifling hunting rifle they're allowed to own.

 

[sandorski]

Good post, very true. Apparently these radical imams didn't get the memo.

Listen to this crazy imam fuck from London who is mentoring young men at his mosque as we speak. The next major attack in Britain will probably come from his mosque.
https://youtu.be/pwIXBRZi2jE
https://youtu.be/m3xuj-aJyaE

There are other crazy fuckers like this from France, Germany, Sweden etc radicalizing young men.

Any mosque advocating sharia law such as death to adulterers and gays needs to be shut down, period. To hell with rights, Islam is not a religion.

If you don't tone it down, you're as bad as they are.

France isn't just going to close all the Mosques, they are targeting specific Mosques where activities are taking place that are threats to the Public.

 

[SP33Demon]

I seriously doubt that the US does anything for the next couple years except try to disarm law abiding citizens. Four military recruiters were murdered by an Islamic terrorist and the official change was permission to draw the blinds. Fort Hood was attacked by an Islamic terrorist who murdered thirteen and the official response was to call it workplace violence. This is nothing more than another school shooting to Obama, just an opportunity to break the Second Amendment.

Even if a wild card like Trump gets elected, America is limited in ways Europe is not. We have guarantees of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to bare arms. While those are under fire, the people most assaulting them would never do anything against Muslims. A President Trump would find himself opposed by law as well as people from both sides of the political spectrum. Even if we suffer an attack as bad as did Paris, I can't see us doing widespread raids on mosques. And even if we did somehow get together for a France-like response, how would our rights survive such wholesale abatement? Vic is right, the only way we would see a response like France's is if we were in a war where our survival as a nation is threatened.

That's true. If our country ever become 1 in 10 = muslim, then we might have a response like France. However, if Repubs sweep both houses and Trump becomes prez then we may see a similar response to France, rights be damned. New laws could be passed that allow surveillance of mosques for radicalization (assuming enough attacks happened).

Also, don't think that the EU attacks would not hit home here, regardless of what we think of Europe they're still our distant cousins. I might also add that we care about our western allies a helluva lot more than countries like Saudi Arabia/gulf states. The caliphate jihad doesn't have borders because of the internet, so any major attacks will resonate in all western countries - especially with today's social media's 24/7 sensationalism. I wouldn't be surprised if a GOP sweep = more monitoring without warrants, especially for islam subscribers. This isn't necessarily a bad thing either - if you have a dormant cancer in your body, it has to be under constant surveillance for metastasizing. If it becomes malignant and starts killing and metastasizing, you will have to strike back and continuously monitor it. This could be the future we are facing with these radicals.

 

[SP33Demon]

If you don't tone it down, you're as bad as they are.

France isn't just going to close all the Mosques, they are targeting specific Mosques where activities are taking place that are threats to the Public.

Tone down what? Do you think France thinks this is a game? No, it's war. And in a war, rights get abrogated. Do you honestly think that every mosque in our country are innocent little paragons of their "religion of peace"? Wake up man. There are some that are plotting to kill you/your town/city/ones you love right now. I'm not saying shut down all mosques and neither is France. But it's time to start surveillance for mosque radicalization, and more than the NSA is doing. Ask the families in CA of the deceased how they feel. You get to go to sleep tonight with all of your loved ones and lucked out.

Nip this shit in the bud. If not, we will have to go through the same crap that France did.

Think America is safe? Watch this.
Sharia Law Zones now confirmed in America

 

[Brian Stirling]

More info about these weapons and how they acquired them would be nice. It doesn't say much if France is just kicking down the doors of every Muslim family and confiscating whatever trifling hunting rifle they're allowed to own.

Yeah the thread title indicates France shut down 3 mosques and 334 weapons were seized, but were all those weapons seized at the 3 mosques? It sure sounds that way, but the one mosque the actual report indicated had weapons had exactly one -- a 9mm revolver.

The actual report from the AP indicates that those 334 weapons have been seized since the 11/13 attacks. So, misleading thread title.

However, these guys are being radicalized somewhere somehow and all too often many of the group worshiped at the same mosque(s) so it would be foolish to pretend there's no connection between radical clerics at some mosques and the activated terrorists that seem to be generated at them.


Brian

 

[SP33Demon]

Yeah the thread title indicates France shut down 3 mosques and 334 weapons were seized, but were all those weapons seized at the 3 mosques? It sure sounds that way, but the one mosque the actual report indicated had weapons had exactly one -- a 9mm revolver.

The actual report from the AP indicates that those 334 weapons have been seized since the 11/13 attacks. So, misleading thread title.

However, these guys are being radicalized somewhere somehow and all too often many of the group worshiped at the same mosque(s) so it would be foolish to pretend there's no connection between radical clerics at some mosques and the activated terrorists that seem to be generated at them.


Brian

FFS it's still 334 weapons seized in Paris from Muslim communities and mosques. Some people will never be happy. I added "since Paris attacks". Happy now?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

FFS it's still 334 weapons seized in Paris from Muslim communities and mosques. Some people will never be happy. I added "since Paris attacks". Happy now?

How many weapons could be seized from Christian communities and churches? Even if we limit things to only the most backwoods and inbred groups?

 

[sandorski]

Tone down what? Do you think France thinks this is a game? No, it's war. And in a war, rights get abrogated. Do you honestly think that every mosque in our country are innocent little paragons of their "religion of peace"? Wake up man. There are some that are plotting to kill you/your town/city/ones you love right now. I'm not saying shut down all mosques and neither is France. But it's time to start surveillance for mosque radicalization, and more than the NSA is doing. Ask the families in CA of the deceased how they feel. You get to go to sleep tonight with all of your loved ones and lucked out.

Nip this shit in the bud. If not, we will have to go through the same crap that France did.

Think America is safe? Watch this.
Sharia Law Zones now confirmed in America

Infowars? fuck that.

 

[Indus]

if you have a dormant cancer in your body, it has to be under constant surveillance for metastasizing. If it becomes malignant and starts killing and metastasizing

As usual the idiot needs to look at the facts before fear mongering..

American deaths due to terrorism vs. gun violence in one graph

Clearly just like your conservaterrorist logic of Bin Laden attacked us so lets attack Iraq.

 

[Remobz]

France has finally done the right thing. Took them too damn long though.

 

[brycejones]

Infowars? fuck that.

It's a great site you can get your "news" the lame stream media won't tell you and your fluoride shield from Alex Jones in the same place.

 

[pete6032]

What is a "weapon" in this situation? Just guns, or what?

 

[SP33Demon]

As usual the idiot needs to look at the facts before fear mongering..

American deaths due to terrorism vs. gun violence in one graph

Clearly just like your conservaterrorist logic of Bin Laden attacked us so lets attack Iraq.

As usual you are deflecting from the root cause (Islamic radicalization).
Since the Paris attacks, here is the list of Islamic attacks globally and it's growing every day:

Iraq November 13, 2015 - A Suicide bomber kills at least 21 at a Shia funeral.[170]

PhilippinesMalaysia November 17, 2015 – A Malaysian national is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf in the southern Philippines.[171]

Nigeria November 17, 2015 – A suicide attack at a market in Yola killed more than 30 people and hospitalised more than 80. The attack is thought to be the work of Boko Haram.[172]

France November 18, 2015 – A Jewish history teacher was stabbed in the arm and leg by three Islamists in Marseille.[173]

Bosnia and Herzegovina November 18, 2015 – A lone wolf Islamist killed two soldiers and injured civilians in Sarajevo. 3 dead 5 wounded.[174]

Nigeria November 18, 2015 – Two explosions rock a phone market in Kano killing at least 15 people and injuring more than 100. Boko Haram is suspected to be behind it.[175]

Mali November 20, 2015 – Bamako hotel attack. Gunmen yelling "Allahu Akbar" storm a hotel in Bamako, Mali. At least 19 killed, and more than 160 were taken hostage.

Iraq November 20, 2015 - A Suicide bomber detonates inside a Shiite mosque killing 10 people, other bombings in the area killed another 5 people.[176]

Cameroon November 21, 2015 – Suicide bombers affiliated with Boko Haram kill at least 10 in northern Cameroon.[177]

Nigeria November 22, 2015 - 8 people among women and children demise when a female suicide bomber is reduced to pulp.[178]

Tunisia November 24, 2015 - At least 12 people were killed in a bus bombing in Tunis, the capital of Tunisia. ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack that targeted a bus transporting members of the Presidential Guard. [179]

Egypt November 24, 2015 – In the November 2015 Sinai attack which occurred a day after the second round of parliamentary elections closed, militants attack a hotel housing election judges in the provincial capital of al-Arish in Egypt's North Sinai. 7 dead, 10+ wounded[180]

Niger November 25, 2015 - Boko Haram invades a village and shoots indiscriminately residents and also fire rockets, killing 18.[181]

Nigeria November 27, 2015 – 21 killed in Boko Haram suicide attack on a Shia procession in Nigeria[182]

Add California to the list after details emerge that this was an attack that took months of preparation and his wife was Saudi. There will never be peace as long as this "religion of peace" is allowed to exist in its current form, i.e. allowing sharia law.

Would love to hear your mentally handicapped correlation of how gun violence in the U.S. is more dangerous than Islam. Should additional checks be made on guns? Maybe. But your extremist ass is talking like they should be banned when it's our constitutional right to bear arms to keep the government in check. The bottom line is that ideology is more dangerous than any gun could ever be since ideas are what radicalize.

 

[realibrad]

As usual the idiot needs to look at the facts before fear mongering..

American deaths due to terrorism vs. gun violence in one graph

Clearly just like your conservaterrorist logic of Bin Laden attacked us so lets attack Iraq.

Just for some clarity on your rather dumb graph. Half of those gun incidence were suicide.

 

[Texashiker]

Religion of peace, nothing to see here, guns must have been planted by radical right wingers.

 

[feralkid]

Religion of peace, nothing to see here, guns must have been planted by radical right wingers.

You call that hate-speech?

You're such a piker compared to OP.

 

[TheSlamma]

How many weapons could be seized from Christian communities and churches? Even if we limit things to only the most backwoods and inbred groups?

All is forgiven then. Might as well just install gun racks in all Mosques, Churches and Temples

 

[Jaskalas]

Looks like France has finally woken up. How long before other Western countries do the same?

Trump has vowed to do this. If you want to be like the French, you got to vote in... Trump.

 

[JD50]

One religious zealot hating on other religious zealots. Nothing new here.

 

[CitizenKain]

Looks like France has finally woken up. How long before other Western countries do the same?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-02-08-35-28


The funny thing is that muslims think their speech is protected in EU countries, such as videos I've seen from the U.K. completely talking shit about their countries and making radical threats openly. They can keep doing that and see what governments will do to their jihad breeding grounds, aka mosques. Shut.Them.the.Fuck.Down. Rights? What rights? Those went out the window with the violence. Let's see how long the U.S. puts up with it, especially now that a muslim has killed in California with his new Saudi bride.

Attack the ideology and the violence goes away. Muslims need to seriously be thinking of a way to change some of their source texts. With ISIS' caliphate, things are only going to get worse before they get better. First, I'd rip ISIS' land away thereby invalidating the caliphate (invalidates their jihad on western countries). Next, get Muslim world leaders to re-examine the Koran.

So you are for disarming all the crazy white people in the US with guns right? Or does this only apply to brown people?

Religion of peace, nothing to see here, guns must have been planted by radical right wingers.

Were you glad that man shot up the abortion clinic? I bet you were, he did something that you are thankfully too chickenshit to do.

 

[Texashiker]

Were you glad that man shot up the abortion clinic? I bet you were, he did something that you are thankfully too chickenshit to do.

I would rather not go there.