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France is Not a Western Country Anymore
By Guy Milliere
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2003
French-bashing is everywhere in the American media. I am French, and I must say if Americans knew completely what's happening in France, the French-bashing would be far harsher.
Jacques Chirac has been a friend of Saddam Hussein for more than thirty years. He allowed the sale of nuclear facilities to Iraq that were destroyed just in time by Israël. He sold Iraq the planes that were been used to gas thousands of Kurds. And Saddam is not the only friend Chirac has. Chirac has never met a ruthless dictator he did not like. Worse, Chirac is unprincipled and greedy. It is common knowledge in France that he stole a lot of money when he was the mayor of Paris, and everyone knows that if he had not been re-elected in May 2002, he would be in jail now. To hear him speaking about morality or international law nauseates every decent Frenchman.
And Chirac is not the only politician of this stripe in France. These days, it is becoming hard to find a French politician ready to speak about human rights, freedom or democracy. All of them seem to have the same speechwriter or to belong to the same totalitarian political party; all of them are anti-American, anti-Israeli and "pacifists." They regard Western civilization as something filthy and abhorrent.
If you read the newspapers, it's the same. At times it seems the only difference between the Soviet Union twenty years ago and France today is that in Soviet Union you had only one Pravda, and in France you now have at least ten such propaganda outlets: Different titles, same content. Their party line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He?s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth. Almost everyday you hear anti-Semitic remarks, to boot.
The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."
And Jews are not the only victims of France's new identification with radical Islam. In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed. Almost every month, a young woman is mugged and raped in a suburb of a big city. Gang rape has become so frequent that a new word, used by the rapists themselves to define their hideous actions, is used by everybody: tournantes (revolving). To the rapists, the woman is nothing, a mere object to be thrown away after use. The people who speak about "revolving" seem to forget a human being is involved as the victim. Policemen do nothing. Every decent person knows the problem is Islam, but no one dares to say it. It could be dangerous. The streets are not safe.
One year ago, a French Muslim decided to create a new business: he was tired of seeing people drinking Coca-Cola - all this money going to Americans! He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola. On the label, he put a picture of the Al Aqsa mosque, with a large part of his profits would help to support the Palestinian cause. In some suburbs of Paris, Coca-Cola has disappeared; Mecca Cola has replaced it. A few days ago, another Muslim businessman announced he will start to sell Muslim-Up. It will have the taste of Sprite or Seven-Up, but it will be a Muslim drink - and naturally the profits will go to the Palestinian jihad, as well.
Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common.
If you want to understand why all this is happening, you have to understand one thing: thirty years ago, French governments started to have a new foreign policy. They called this new policy, "Arabian Policy." France became closer to Arab countries - all of them disgusting dictatorships. France "benefited" by doing business easily in these countries. In exchange, France had to push Europe to unknot its ties with Israël and the United States. In exchange too, "professors" came from the Arabian dictatorships to teach the Arabic language to the young Arabs living in France. The only book they used to teach the Arabic language was THE book, Al Kuran.
Now comes the time to pay the check: six million Muslims live in France, at least ten per cent of them are radical Islamists poised on the edge of violence. And these radical Muslims have allies on both the extreme Left and the extreme Right. France is not a Western country anymore, it is now the leader of the Arab/Muslim world. Israel has to know France is its main enemy. The United States has to understand they have nothing to expect from today's France except nastiness, treason, and cheating.
Here is your link to a BBC story on MECCA-COLA
Here is a link to "Muslim-Up" and "Arab Cola"
:evil:
By Guy Milliere
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2003
French-bashing is everywhere in the American media. I am French, and I must say if Americans knew completely what's happening in France, the French-bashing would be far harsher.
Jacques Chirac has been a friend of Saddam Hussein for more than thirty years. He allowed the sale of nuclear facilities to Iraq that were destroyed just in time by Israël. He sold Iraq the planes that were been used to gas thousands of Kurds. And Saddam is not the only friend Chirac has. Chirac has never met a ruthless dictator he did not like. Worse, Chirac is unprincipled and greedy. It is common knowledge in France that he stole a lot of money when he was the mayor of Paris, and everyone knows that if he had not been re-elected in May 2002, he would be in jail now. To hear him speaking about morality or international law nauseates every decent Frenchman.
And Chirac is not the only politician of this stripe in France. These days, it is becoming hard to find a French politician ready to speak about human rights, freedom or democracy. All of them seem to have the same speechwriter or to belong to the same totalitarian political party; all of them are anti-American, anti-Israeli and "pacifists." They regard Western civilization as something filthy and abhorrent.
If you read the newspapers, it's the same. At times it seems the only difference between the Soviet Union twenty years ago and France today is that in Soviet Union you had only one Pravda, and in France you now have at least ten such propaganda outlets: Different titles, same content. Their party line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He?s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth. Almost everyday you hear anti-Semitic remarks, to boot.
The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."
And Jews are not the only victims of France's new identification with radical Islam. In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed. Almost every month, a young woman is mugged and raped in a suburb of a big city. Gang rape has become so frequent that a new word, used by the rapists themselves to define their hideous actions, is used by everybody: tournantes (revolving). To the rapists, the woman is nothing, a mere object to be thrown away after use. The people who speak about "revolving" seem to forget a human being is involved as the victim. Policemen do nothing. Every decent person knows the problem is Islam, but no one dares to say it. It could be dangerous. The streets are not safe.
One year ago, a French Muslim decided to create a new business: he was tired of seeing people drinking Coca-Cola - all this money going to Americans! He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola. On the label, he put a picture of the Al Aqsa mosque, with a large part of his profits would help to support the Palestinian cause. In some suburbs of Paris, Coca-Cola has disappeared; Mecca Cola has replaced it. A few days ago, another Muslim businessman announced he will start to sell Muslim-Up. It will have the taste of Sprite or Seven-Up, but it will be a Muslim drink - and naturally the profits will go to the Palestinian jihad, as well.
Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common.
If you want to understand why all this is happening, you have to understand one thing: thirty years ago, French governments started to have a new foreign policy. They called this new policy, "Arabian Policy." France became closer to Arab countries - all of them disgusting dictatorships. France "benefited" by doing business easily in these countries. In exchange, France had to push Europe to unknot its ties with Israël and the United States. In exchange too, "professors" came from the Arabian dictatorships to teach the Arabic language to the young Arabs living in France. The only book they used to teach the Arabic language was THE book, Al Kuran.
Now comes the time to pay the check: six million Muslims live in France, at least ten per cent of them are radical Islamists poised on the edge of violence. And these radical Muslims have allies on both the extreme Left and the extreme Right. France is not a Western country anymore, it is now the leader of the Arab/Muslim world. Israel has to know France is its main enemy. The United States has to understand they have nothing to expect from today's France except nastiness, treason, and cheating.
Here is your link to a BBC story on MECCA-COLA
Here is a link to "Muslim-Up" and "Arab Cola"
:evil:
DivideBYZero
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This tired old crap. Really.
Just because a muslim creates a rival drink to Coke, he's supporting terrorism? How feeble minded a view is that??
Lies, quite simply. I was in Paris in January for work. Moved around town alot, never had any issues getting 'Coca-cola'.
All the big grocery store chains have their 'own brand' cola, does that mean they fund terrorism with the proceedes?
No, not once. In fact I was working with a guy called, wait for it, Mohammed. We work for an American company.
Oh my word, what utter foundless bullsh!t! Think of a number, divide by 3, multiply by the number of eggs you had this moring and the length of your last turd to get the final figure.
P R O P A G A N D A - If it was writ any larger you'd have to drive around it.
Just because a muslim creates a rival drink to Coke, he's supporting terrorism? How feeble minded a view is that??
Lies, quite simply. I was in Paris in January for work. Moved around town alot, never had any issues getting 'Coca-cola'.
All the big grocery store chains have their 'own brand' cola, does that mean they fund terrorism with the proceedes?
No, not once. In fact I was working with a guy called, wait for it, Mohammed. We work for an American company.
Oh my word, what utter foundless bullsh!t! Think of a number, divide by 3, multiply by the number of eggs you had this moring and the length of your last turd to get the final figure.
P R O P A G A N D A - If it was writ any larger you'd have to drive around it.
Judgement
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I'm not saying the article is entirely accurate and unbiased but all you've done is tried to disprove the irrelivant information, partly with your own opinion.
To begin with the soda comments are pointless and should not be in the article. You finding a coke does not mean there aren't problems forming in France. Then, because you knew one person of arbabic descent and he didn't say anything anti-Semitic to you means no one in France does? If you were working with him as two professionals then there shouldn't have been any political opinions brought up in the first place. I'm not saying Mohammad was against Jewish people, but it doesn't sound like you know him well enough to say he isn't. I also don't think he can be considered respresentative of the rest of France.
Lastly, your claim that 10% of the people in France aren't violent Islamists has as much validity as the articles claim that 10% are.
Just being objective here; if you're going to call that propaganda, you have to expect others to see what you're saying as propaganda also.
The article makes me laugh
we can read in france some articles about the stupidity of american (like they even dont know where canada is) but that's not why we believe them
this article is just bullshit
france is not like that
we can compare with the pb in america in ghettos (the bronx was famous here for a long time)
we have pb like any country with several communities, america does too
this guy is know for his feeling toward israel, strong feelings against arabs too
so we you read a paper dont believe anything it says
i live in an area where there are a lot of muslim and i NEVER have any pb with them
I was once in new york and had some pb in the metro but i didnt generalize saying that all americans are thieves
on the contrary i believe that america is a great bunch of ppl with some good guy and some bad guy as everyelse
but that's my 2 c opinion
we can read in france some articles about the stupidity of american (like they even dont know where canada is) but that's not why we believe them
this article is just bullshit
france is not like that
we can compare with the pb in america in ghettos (the bronx was famous here for a long time)
we have pb like any country with several communities, america does too
this guy is know for his feeling toward israel, strong feelings against arabs too
so we you read a paper dont believe anything it says
i live in an area where there are a lot of muslim and i NEVER have any pb with them
I was once in new york and had some pb in the metro but i didnt generalize saying that all americans are thieves
on the contrary i believe that america is a great bunch of ppl with some good guy and some bad guy as everyelse
but that's my 2 c opinion
i did and i find a lot of links toward israeli site which cannot be taken as serious
find an article which is not polemical and i will answer
i can show you some arab web page telling israel and america is fighting them because they hate arabs
type france juif arabe in french you ll get a lot aof paper saying that the situation is not that bad use a translator if u dont understand french
find an article which is not polemical and i will answer
i can show you some arab web page telling israel and america is fighting them because they hate arabs
type france juif arabe in french you ll get a lot aof paper saying that the situation is not that bad use a translator if u dont understand french
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