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BILL GERTZ, THE WASHINGTON TIMES: Well, first of all, Greta, all of the big proliferaters, governments, others lie about what they're doing. That's been the case with North Korea, with Iran, with Pakistan, and with Libya.
VAN SUSTEREN: But do they then turn around and stand and say that they're friends of ours and allies and we're going to stand tall with you on the war against terrorism?
GERTZ: Well, in the case of Pakistan, it's a very difficult call. They are the front line right now. They were the front line in the war on Afghanistan. They're now another key front line state. Musharraf has thrown in with the U.S. in going after the terrorists.
But that doesn't mean that he's in control, that doesn't mean that he controls his intelligence service, and it certainly doesn't mean he controls these industry that works with the nuclear things, specifically AQ Khan, who is the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb.
BILL GERTZ, THE WASHINGTON TIMES: Well, first of all, Greta, all of the big proliferaters, governments, others lie about what they're doing. That's been the case with North Korea, with Iran, with Pakistan, and with Libya.
VAN SUSTEREN: But do they then turn around and stand and say that they're friends of ours and allies and we're going to stand tall with you on the war against terrorism?
GERTZ: Well, in the case of Pakistan, it's a very difficult call. They are the front line right now. They were the front line in the war on Afghanistan. They're now another key front line state. Musharraf has thrown in with the U.S. in going after the terrorists.
But that doesn't mean that he's in control, that doesn't mean that he controls his intelligence service, and it certainly doesn't mean he controls these industry that works with the nuclear things, specifically AQ Khan, who is the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb.
