FoxNews Reports: Pakistan may have given nuclear technology to Libya after 9/11

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BILL GERTZ, THE WASHINGTON TIMES: Well, first of all, Greta, all of the big proliferaters, governments, others lie about what they're doing. That's been the case with North Korea, with Iran, with Pakistan, and with Libya.

VAN SUSTEREN: But do they then turn around and stand and say that they're friends of ours and allies and we're going to stand tall with you on the war against terrorism?

GERTZ: Well, in the case of Pakistan, it's a very difficult call. They are the front line right now. They were the front line in the war on Afghanistan. They're now another key front line state. Musharraf has thrown in with the U.S. in going after the terrorists.

But that doesn't mean that he's in control, that doesn't mean that he controls his intelligence service, and it certainly doesn't mean he controls these industry that works with the nuclear things, specifically AQ Khan, who is the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb.

 

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Big difference between Pakistan the government and a Pakistani private under the table enterprice.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Big difference between Pakistan the government and a Pakistani private under the table enterprice.

Does that make it any less dangerous or does that change the fact that Pakistan is not serious about dealing with this. They pardoned the man responsible??? In any other country that man would be dead or in solitary confinement right now.

Besides, it is inconcievable that the military and intelligence services did not know about this?? Khan himself said Musharrif was aware of it, even if he denies it. You really trust these people? Enough to risk a mushroom cloud over an American city???

We can not trust the security of the United States to the good intentions of evil men!
 

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Big difference between Pakistan the government and a Pakistani private under the table enterprice.

Does that make it any less dangerous or does that change the fact that Pakistan is not serious about dealing with this. They pardoned the man responsible??? In any other country that man would be dead or in solitary confinement right now.

Besides, it is inconcievable that the military and intelligence services did not know about this?? Khan himself said Musharrif was aware of it, even if he denies it. You really trust these people? Enough to risk a mushroom cloud over an American city???

We can not trust the security of the United States to the good intentions of evil men!

Pakistan (people and/or gov) were exposed. Now will be the test on how the situation is handled.

We can not trust the security of the United States to the good intentions of evil men!
Shame that this could not apply to Iraq.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Big difference between Pakistan the government and a Pakistani private under the table enterprice.

Does that make it any less dangerous or does that change the fact that Pakistan is not serious about dealing with this. They pardoned the man responsible??? In any other country that man would be dead or in solitary confinement right now.

Besides, it is inconcievable that the military and intelligence services did not know about this?? Khan himself said Musharrif was aware of it, even if he denies it. You really trust these people? Enough to risk a mushroom cloud over an American city???

We can not trust the security of the United States to the good intentions of evil men!

Pakistan (people and/or gov) were exposed. Now will be the test on how the situation is handled.

We can not trust the security of the United States to the good intentions of evil men!
Shame that this could not apply to Iraq.

Shame that this does not apply to Pakistan. You would have thought the US would have learned its lesson about using dictators and tolerating fundamentalists.

 

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Meet the Press Transcript

President Bush: Well, because he had the capacity to have a weapon, make a weapon. We thought he had weapons. The international community thought he had weapons. But he had the capacity to make a weapon and then let that weapon fall into the hands of a shadowy terrorist network.
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Bush feared that Iraq was going to make WMDs and pass them to terrorist networks.
Why aren't we invading Pakistan when their top nuclear scientist is passing nuclear technology to the highest bidders like North Korea, Iran, and Libya. Bush never mentioned nuclear technology in Iraq during the Meet the Press interview but here is a clear case in Pakistan of this very dangerous proliferation.
 

tnitsuj

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But he had the capacity to make a weapon and then let that weapon fall into the hands of a shadowy terrorist network.


Does not Pakistan meet all those criteria even more strongly than Iraq?????????????????????
 

etech

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Originally posted by: chowderhead
Meet the Press Transcript

President Bush: Well, because he had the capacity to have a weapon, make a weapon. We thought he had weapons. The international community thought he had weapons. But he had the capacity to make a weapon and then let that weapon fall into the hands of a shadowy terrorist network.
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Bush feared that Iraq was going to make WMDs and pass them to terrorist networks.
Why aren't we invading Pakistan when their top nuclear scientist is passing nuclear technology to the highest bidders like North Korea, Iran, and Libya. Bush never mentioned nuclear technology in Iraq during the Meet the Press interview but here is a clear case in Pakistan of this very dangerous proliferation.

1. The nuclear scientist in Pakistan has been sacked from his job and is not now passing nuclear technology.

2. There is no indication that once sanctions were lifted in Iraq that Saddam would not have continued with his previous programs.

Do you wonder why Pakistan got serious about plugging these leaks?




 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: chowderhead
Meet the Press Transcript

President Bush: Well, because he had the capacity to have a weapon, make a weapon. We thought he had weapons. The international community thought he had weapons. But he had the capacity to make a weapon and then let that weapon fall into the hands of a shadowy terrorist network.
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Bush feared that Iraq was going to make WMDs and pass them to terrorist networks.
Why aren't we invading Pakistan when their top nuclear scientist is passing nuclear technology to the highest bidders like North Korea, Iran, and Libya. Bush never mentioned nuclear technology in Iraq during the Meet the Press interview but here is a clear case in Pakistan of this very dangerous proliferation.

1. The nuclear scientist in Pakistan has been sacked from his job and is not now passing nuclear technology.

2. There is no indication that once sanctions were lifted in Iraq that Saddam would not have continued with his previous programs.

Do you wonder why Pakistan got serious about plugging these leaks?

No one has proven that they are serious. They only launched this "investigation" when the IAEA presented evidence from LIbya and Iran.

 

sandorski

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At first(a few threads back) I thought you were joking around, now I'm begining to understand your point. :)

I agree, Pakistan seems to be everything Bush erroneously feared about Iraq, only much worse.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: sandorski
At first(a few threads back) I thought you were joking around, now I'm begining to understand your point. :)

I agree, Pakistan seems to be everything Bush erroneously feared about Iraq, only much worse.

I am not joking. I think Pakistan is a serious threat to the US especially in light of recent revelations. They have proven to be most untrustworthy. If a doctrine of pre-emption is to apply to anyone, it should apply to Pakistan.
 

Wag

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Scary stuff going on there. If the fundies manage to bump-off Musharrif (not for lack of trying) and launch a warhead at India, could be the beginning of WWIII.

The really scary thing is that it's not an improbable or unlikely scenario.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Wag
Scary stuff going on there. If the fundies manage to bump-off Musharrif (not for lack of trying) and launch a warhead at India, could be the beginning of WWIII.

The really scary thing is that it's not an improbable or unlikely scenario.

ha, Musharraf created the fundies!
 

DealMonkey

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Of course he pardoned the scientist - the guy's a national hero! Can you imagine the political backlash from the fundies who are so proud of their "Islamic bomb" if the scientist was arrested (as he probably should be)? Man, oh man, ol' Mushie would never risk that . . .
 

Wag

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How much of a bigger backlash can there be? They tried to kill him 2 times in the last month that we know about.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Wag
How much of a bigger backlash can there be? They tried to kill him 2 times in the last month that we know about.

Awww... poor Mushy.....






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