Fox News Reporting: Secrets of 9/11

[TastesLikeChicken]

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See my sig for everything that needs to be known about you.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

so, you acknowledge that the official story of 9-11 is not factual. Thank you sir. Good day.

If it's not factual then what is your version of 'what really happened?' Please enlighten us all with the details supported by verifiable facts.

I won't hold my breath waiting for any response.

 

[airdata]

You have never used thermite yourself have you?
Or explosives?

Because my experince screams "imbicils" everytime I see a nuttcase trying to make the "argument" for either thermite or explosives at 9/11...

Another clear example, thanks.

Nowhere did I mention anything about having a personal belief that explosives or thermite were used on 9-11.

I simply posted a video showing evidence that thermite can in fact cut through steel. This effectively debunks the debunkers claims that thermite can't cut through steel.

This is fact... I'm not arguing steel thickness, or saying that thermite was used to aid the collapse of the towers. I am simply presenting an example in which something that was "debunked" was obviously "debunked" with poor science and little effort.

 

[airdata]

If it's not factual then what is your version of 'what really happened?' Please enlighten us all with the details supported by verifiable facts.

I won't hold my breath waiting for any response.

When nobody can prove anything on either side of the argument, who is right?

Some people are simply more gullible than others, and some people don't believe people after they're lied to over and over again.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

When nobody can prove anything on either side of the argument, who is right?

Some people are simply more gullible than others, and some people don't believe people after they're lied to over and over again.

What can't be proven? Hijacked airplanes didn't crash into the towers? The towers didn't collapse at the point of impact? Not a single person involved in the massive conspiracy alleged by the truthers has ever come forward?

Gullible indeed. Your overt paranoia does not even begin to indicate that everyone else is gullible. It only serves to demonstrate that you are highly paranoid.

 

[Macamus Prime]

White trash is white and trashy.

That is all.

 

[xj0hnx]

Another clear example, thanks.

Nowhere did I mention anything about having a personal belief that explosives or thermite were used on 9-11.

I simply posted a video showing evidence that thermite can in fact cut through steel. This effectively debunks the debunkers claims that thermite can't cut through steel.

This is fact... I'm not arguing steel thickness, or saying that thermite was used to aid the collapse of the towers. I am simply presenting an example in which something that was "debunked" was obviously "debunked" with poor science and little effort.

No one debunked thermite cutting steel, what was debunked was how thermite would be used to cut the steel in the buildings that were hit by planes, at the point they were hit by planes. The simple fact that you keep posting this "I was just debunking that thermite can't cut steel" line is proof to me that you think it's a believable theory, if it's not, you wouldn't be trying to keep saying your just debunking something that no one is claiming.

 

[airdata]

Actually xjohn... I was just posting a video of a guy doing it.

At no point did I take any personal credit for debunking anything.

I just know that I've seen 2 debunking demonstrations in the past. In one, thermite was painted onto a steel beam and the other, it was poured on and in both cases simply ignited in open air and burned up rather quickly.

So, when I saw a video of a guy crafting little containers to direct the thermite in a way to allow it to cut, I was immediately brought back to previous videos I've seen where thermite was dismissed as being able to cut through steel.

 

[xj0hnx]

Actually xjohn... I was just posting a video of a guy doing it.

At no point did I take any personal credit for debunking anything.

I just know that I've seen 2 debunking demonstrations in the past. In one, thermite was painted onto a steel beam and the other, it was poured on and in both cases simply ignited in open air and burned up rather quickly.

So, when I saw a video of a guy crafting little containers to direct the thermite in a way to allow it to cut, I was immediately brought back to previous videos I've seen where thermite was dismissed as being able to cut through steel.

 

[werepossum]

So, back on topic, was this show worthwhile? Did it actually make any valid points? Is it worthwhile and amazing to search out the show (assuming it's available) or are cliffs sufficient?

 

[NoStateofMind]

So, back on topic, was this show worthwhile? Did it actually make any valid points? Is it worthwhile and amazing to search out the show (assuming it's available) or are cliffs sufficient?

I think the cliffs are sufficient enough unless you are into details. The devil is in the details so they say. Personally the fact that there is a money trail leading to Saudi princes and our government purposefully redacts that information, encourages courts to not hear arguments based on this tells me theres something fishy going on. Why are we not following logic here? IIRC 19 of the hijackers were Saudi? Several Saudi people were confirmed to be in contact with al Qaeda recruits immediately after visiting the Saudi Embassy. To have followed them through their training and whereabouts before 9/11 and absolutely ignore the issue? You be the judge.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Another clear example, thanks.

Nowhere did I mention anything about having a personal belief that explosives or thermite were used on 9-11.

I simply posted a video showing evidence that thermite can in fact cut through steel. This effectively debunks the debunkers claims that thermite can't cut through steel.

This is fact... I'm not arguing steel thickness, or saying that thermite was used to aid the collapse of the towers. I am simply presenting an example in which something that was "debunked" was obviously "debunked" with poor science and little effort.

You know at what pace thermite cuts through steels?
What traces it leaves behind?
What you can use it for....and what thermite cannot be used for?
And what quanteties would be required?

Ignorance is a bad foundation...and I'm tellling yout that both claims about the use of thermite and explosives in 9/11 are really based on ignorance...or mental problems.

Take you pick...

 

[al981]

See my sig for everything that needs to be known about you.

don't look now. chickenlittle still dodging like a pussy. you can keep your sig, my points about this post and the us government still stand.

love how you dodge away from the MLK family giving you a nice big FUCK YOU.

 

[al981]

No asshat, learn to read. I will repeat my question for the dim-witted. Where is even one person from the thousand+ involved in the 9/11 conspiracy? If you want to start a Martin Luther King thread, then do so.

as proven by the MLK verdict, a full blown conspiracy was covered up by your government, and hundreds involved in the government conspiracy never said a word, and still haven't said a word for decades. the same exact thing is happening now with 9/11. continue hiding behind your "create another thread" bullshit excuse.

 

[al981]

I now KNOW conspiracy nutters have mental issues....talk about mental issues in this thread.

enjoy your crow and dodge inc!

Coretta Scott King: There is abundant evidence of a major high level conspiracy in the assassination of my husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. And the civil court's unanimous verdict has validated our belief. I wholeheartedly applaud the verdict of the jury and I feel that justice has been well served in their deliberations. This verdict is not only a great victory for my family, but also a great victory for America. It is a great victory for truth itself.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

 

[al981]

al981 : mind you, these are the same people who still won't admit there were no WMD and that the government used known bad intel to drag us into our most recent declared war. And by using simple logic, you can deduce that this was not the first time that deception has been used to make the public feel better about going to war for reasons not specified by the government.

those liars/losers always claim "but but, nobody is speaking out" or "but but, our government could never do such a thing", all while intentionally dodging proven facts that show otherwise.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

always great fun exposing mental midgets / liars :thumbsup:
spreading truth ftw.

 

[Lonbjerg]

enjoy your crow and dodge inc!

Coretta Scott King: There is abundant evidence of a major high level conspiracy in the assassination of my husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. And the civil court's unanimous verdict has validated our belief. I wholeheartedly applaud the verdict of the jury and I feel that justice has been well served in their deliberations. This verdict is not only a great victory for my family, but also a great victory for America. It is a great victory for truth itself.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

I saw Elvis yesterday.

Learn to use arguments...not anecdotes.

 

[al981]

I saw Elvis yesterday.

Learn to use arguments...not anecdotes.

feel free to admit the truthers in martin luther king's family were victorious against the us government for conspiracy. then tell us how that crow tastes.

inc dodge again!

 

[chucky2]

I'm wondering if al981 gets that there is a large difference between the government of the 60's allegedly killing a man that at least 1/2 of the country didn't like/want to hear from at the time, vs. masterminding 9/11 and somehow keeping the entire thing quiet (an impossibility in this day and age), and done by an Admin that around 1/2 of the country believes to have been totally bumbling and inept (but magically on this issue and others where they got their tricky desires accomplished, absolutely masterfull in their cunning and execution)?

Somehow by the repeated references, I'm thinking the answer is No there...

Chuck

 

[Lonbjerg]

feel free to admit the truthers in martin luther king's family were victorious against the us government for conspiracy. then tell us how that crow tastes.

inc dodge again!

So you can name the killer and all the participants?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

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See my sig for everything you need to know about how ignorant and clueless al981 is.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I'm wondering if al981 gets that there is a large difference between the government of the 60's allegedly killing a man that at least 1/2 of the country didn't like/want to hear from at the time, vs. masterminding 9/11 and somehow keeping the entire thing quiet (an impossibility in this day and age), and done by an Admin that around 1/2 of the country believes to have been totally bumbling and inept (but magically on this issue and others where they got their tricky desires accomplished, absolutely masterfull in their cunning and execution)?

Somehow by the repeated references, I'm thinking the answer is No there...

Chuck

Seems like they are doing a pretty good job regarding Saudi involvement are they not?

 

[EagleKeeper]

feel free to admit the truthers in martin luther king's family were victorious against the us government for conspiracy. then tell us how that crow tastes.

Coretta Scott King: There is abundant evidence of a major high level conspiracy in the assassination of my husband, Martin Luther King, Jr. And the civil court's unanimous verdict has validated our belief. I wholeheartedly applaud the verdict of the jury and I feel that justice has been well served in their deliberations. This verdict is not only a great victory for my family, but also a great victory for America. It is a great victory for truth itself.

http://www.thekingcenter.org/kingcenter/Transcript_press_conference.aspx

What is done in a civil case for proof is less than a crimminal case.

See OJ for instance.

All it takes is a good emotional push to win.

What one claims to be does not constitute proof. It is a theory of a person; not facts.

Government involvment in observing does not mean government involment in the actual deed w/ respect to King.

 

[Linflas]

feel free to admit the truthers in martin luther king's family were victorious against the us government for conspiracy. then tell us how that crow tastes.

inc dodge again!

They won a verdict in a civil trial against a guy named Loyd Jowers and "unknown co-conspirators". It doesn't surprise me a bit that a truther would try to inflate this into "victorious against the us government for conspiracy". You conspiracy idiots really boggle the mind.

The Truth About Memphis

 

[Matt1970]

They won a verdict in a civil trial against a guy named Loyd Jowers and "unknown co-conspirators". It doesn't surprise me a bit that a truther would try to inflate this into "victorious against the us government for conspiracy". You conspiracy idiots really boggle the mind.

The Truth About Memphis

And Loyd Jowers has been dead since 1998. Kinda easy to win a case against a dead man and "unknown co-conspirators".