FOX News meltdown when criticism by guest leveled against the extravagant inauguration

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phillyTIM

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Judy: we love you! Those of us who can see what Heil Bush is doing...lavishing a multitude of money for a party, where it could be going to save the lives of our troops, and getting them the equipment they need. Our government is in a budget crisis, with dying soldiers depending on money and equipment coming in. Christ, when will Bush's Regime contain itself to the "humble" demeanor bush always speaks of? I'll tell you when: in January, 2009...when it's OVER...that's when, and not a day before.

Thank you Judy, for standing up to Fox, the Bush propoganda machine's heart, and telling people like it is.

Vanity Fair: give Judy a raise! We need more writers/reporters with the balls that Judy has displayed!
 

PatboyX

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thats pretty funny.
yeah, i think the big problem is that they have been asked about it before hand and no one seemed to care.
the fact that this womans response to the idea of supporting the troops was "well, he had a dinner and a prayer service for them" was so hilariously ignorant i almost crapped my pants.
there is a fine line between comedy and tragedy...
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon jr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I have a better idea, join the Army and volunteer to go to Iraq. If you did some other soldier would be able to come home from Iraq earlier.

A lot of people have done just that.. We have enough volunteer soldiers to do the job.. stop making this stupid argument.
Yeah right, that's why they keep extending tours of duty, calling up Soldiers who have already put in their time and are using the National Guard to fight this war.
The whole purpose of a volunteer army is that those who CHOOSE to join can, and do.. those who CHOOSE not to, don't have to. And the amazing thing? We all enjoy the same rights and freedoms. Thats how our country was founded.
Yeah he can choose to support a war that he as long as there are others to fight it instead of him
Everyone who is currently in Iraq could have CHOSEN not to be there..
No true!

Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there? I don't think your oath when you join the military says 'You can change your mind if we actually go to war'.. So, you CHOOSE before hand.. You need to decide that if the benefits of joining the military outweigh the risk of you dying.. some say yes, some say no.. You can't say that once we go to war that 'Oops! I changed my mind!'. But, everyone who has joined has done so by choice.. Unless you have proof otherwise?

Also, please explain to me why you have to be in the military to support a war? Think about this for a second, our President, the Commander-in-Chief, is a CIVILIAN.. Our very constitution specifies that the head of our armed forces NOT be a member of the armed forces! I don't suppose you are going to make the claim that every President since the founding of this country has no right to support a war? What about the people who make the guns our soldiers use? Are they not important? They are not fighting, but our soldiers would probably be killed a lot more if they were using sticks to try to kill people? What about the people who make the tanks we use? Or that mine the steel we use to make armor on our hummers? How about the people who make the computer chips that make the targeting systems for our planes? Would kind of suck if every missile we shot went flying straight ahead and never adjusted course.

What about the police officers at home who are protecting the familes of the soldiers while they are away? Do they not have a right to support it? How about the firefighters who are putting out the fires in the soldiers homes while they are away.. Do they not have a right to support the war? What about the handicapped who cannot be soldiers? Do they have a right to support the war? How about the internet companies which allow soldiers to communicate with their loved ones in real time from halfway across the globe?

You argument is SERIOUSLY flawed. EVERY American, in some way, supports this country.. Without the garbage collector trash would pile up and disease would increase at home, putting the soldiers family at risk.. Without the mailman the soldier would have no way of getting packages from his family.. without the truck drivers we would have no way to bring new supplies to our troops...

Our country is the sum of all its parts.. each equally important.. each person has a job.. for some its stocking the shelves with food so people can eat, for others its growing crops so people can eat.. For some very brave people, its getting shot at to defend our country. The fact that you can't see the value in everyone really explains to me what type of person you are..
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there?
Easy.

Anyone who enlisted in time before the war to be deployed to Iraq.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon jr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I have a better idea, join the Army and volunteer to go to Iraq. If you did some other soldier would be able to come home from Iraq earlier.

A lot of people have done just that.. We have enough volunteer soldiers to do the job.. stop making this stupid argument.
Yeah right, that's why they keep extending tours of duty, calling up Soldiers who have already put in their time and are using the National Guard to fight this war.
The whole purpose of a volunteer army is that those who CHOOSE to join can, and do.. those who CHOOSE not to, don't have to. And the amazing thing? We all enjoy the same rights and freedoms. Thats how our country was founded.
Yeah he can choose to support a war that he as long as there are others to fight it instead of him
Everyone who is currently in Iraq could have CHOSEN not to be there..
No true!

Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there? I don't think your oath when you join the military says 'You can change your mind if we actually go to war'.. So, you CHOOSE before hand.. You need to decide that if the benefits of joining the military outweigh the risk of you dying.. some say yes, some say no.. You can't say that once we go to war that 'Oops! I changed my mind!'. But, everyone who has joined has done so by choice.. Unless you have proof otherwise?

Also, please explain to me why you have to be in the military to support a war? Think about this for a second, our President, the Commander-in-Chief, is a CIVILIAN.. Our very constitution specifies that the head of our armed forces NOT be a member of the armed forces! I don't suppose you are going to make the claim that every President since the founding of this country has no right to support a war? What about the people who make the guns our soldiers use? Are they not important? They are not fighting, but our soldiers would probably be killed a lot more if they were using sticks to try to kill people? What about the people who make the tanks we use? Or that mine the steel we use to make armor on our hummers? How about the people who make the computer chips that make the targeting systems for our planes? Would kind of suck if every missile we shot went flying straight ahead and never adjusted course.

What about the police officers at home who are protecting the familes of the soldiers while they are away? Do they not have a right to support it? How about the firefighters who are putting out the fires in the soldiers homes while they are away.. Do they not have a right to support the war? What about the handicapped who cannot be soldiers? Do they have a right to support the war? How about the internet companies which allow soldiers to communicate with their loved ones in real time from halfway across the globe?

You argument is SERIOUSLY flawed. EVERY American, in some way, supports this country.. Without the garbage collector trash would pile up and disease would increase at home, putting the soldiers family at risk.. Without the mailman the soldier would have no way of getting packages from his family.. without the truck drivers we would have no way to bring new supplies to our troops...

Our country is the sum of all its parts.. each equally important.. each person has a job.. for some its stocking the shelves with food so people can eat, for others its growing crops so people can eat.. For some very brave people, its getting shot at to defend our country. The fact that you can't see the value in everyone really explains to me what type of person you are..

We don't go digging in a mine uncovering steel I-beams, it's a man-made alloy! Therefore, your whole post is wrong. Thanks for playing!
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon jr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I have a better idea, join the Army and volunteer to go to Iraq. If you did some other soldier would be able to come home from Iraq earlier.

A lot of people have done just that.. We have enough volunteer soldiers to do the job.. stop making this stupid argument.
Yeah right, that's why they keep extending tours of duty, calling up Soldiers who have already put in their time and are using the National Guard to fight this war.
The whole purpose of a volunteer army is that those who CHOOSE to join can, and do.. those who CHOOSE not to, don't have to. And the amazing thing? We all enjoy the same rights and freedoms. Thats how our country was founded.
Yeah he can choose to support a war that he as long as there are others to fight it instead of him
Everyone who is currently in Iraq could have CHOSEN not to be there..
No true!

Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there? I don't think your oath when you join the military says 'You can change your mind if we actually go to war'.. So, you CHOOSE before hand.. You need to decide that if the benefits of joining the military outweigh the risk of you dying.. some say yes, some say no.. You can't say that once we go to war that 'Oops! I changed my mind!'. But, everyone who has joined has done so by choice.. Unless you have proof otherwise?

Also, please explain to me why you have to be in the military to support a war? Think about this for a second, our President, the Commander-in-Chief, is a CIVILIAN.. Our very constitution specifies that the head of our armed forces NOT be a member of the armed forces! I don't suppose you are going to make the claim that every President since the founding of this country has no right to support a war? What about the people who make the guns our soldiers use? Are they not important? They are not fighting, but our soldiers would probably be killed a lot more if they were using sticks to try to kill people? What about the people who make the tanks we use? Or that mine the steel we use to make armor on our hummers? How about the people who make the computer chips that make the targeting systems for our planes? Would kind of suck if every missile we shot went flying straight ahead and never adjusted course.

What about the police officers at home who are protecting the familes of the soldiers while they are away? Do they not have a right to support it? How about the firefighters who are putting out the fires in the soldiers homes while they are away.. Do they not have a right to support the war? What about the handicapped who cannot be soldiers? Do they have a right to support the war? How about the internet companies which allow soldiers to communicate with their loved ones in real time from halfway across the globe?

You argument is SERIOUSLY flawed. EVERY American, in some way, supports this country.. Without the garbage collector trash would pile up and disease would increase at home, putting the soldiers family at risk.. Without the mailman the soldier would have no way of getting packages from his family.. without the truck drivers we would have no way to bring new supplies to our troops...

Our country is the sum of all its parts.. each equally important.. each person has a job.. for some its stocking the shelves with food so people can eat, for others its growing crops so people can eat.. For some very brave people, its getting shot at to defend our country. The fact that you can't see the value in everyone really explains to me what type of person you are..

We don't go digging in a mine uncovering steel I-beams, it's a man-made alloy! Therefore, your whole post is wrong. Thanks for playing!

:cookie:
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there?
Easy.

Anyone who enlisted in time before the war to be deployed to Iraq.

Umm.. no.. Anyone who joins the military is well aware they can be sent into a war zone.. If they did not want to risk that, they should not have joined in the first place. If they would have CHOSEN not to join, they would not be in Iraq.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there?
Easy.

Anyone who enlisted in time before the war to be deployed to Iraq.
Umm.. no.. Anyone who joins the military is well aware they can be sent into a war zone.. If they did not want to risk that, they should not have joined in the first place. If they would have CHOSEN not to join, they would not be in Iraq.
They (safely) assume they could be sent into a war zone for just reasons.
 

Deptacon

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Idl ike to add to this, Im in the military, and we have this thing called a"consiecous objector"...if you don't want to fight , cause you think its wrong or something, you don't have to..... i mean it makes you look like shit...but if you really don't wnna be there, you can get out....

but not many people do that, pretty much the slim few who shouldn't be in the miltary anyways....

find me someone in the miltary who is against the war, besides the 2 traitors who ran off to canada...

there are some, but very few, so when someone cricizes the war, and tries to use the "poor troops" as an exmaple, thats just makes me wanna vommit....i went once, ill go again, to server, and becuase i have no problem putting a bullet in someones head who speaks of harm towards america or americans, or has anything to do with terrorism, ANYTHING...i dont care if he was just learning how to write al qeada....
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Red, you are just making yourself look foolish now. Explain to me which people who are currently in Iraq could not have chosen NOT to be there?
Easy.

Anyone who enlisted in time before the war to be deployed to Iraq.
Umm.. no.. Anyone who joins the military is well aware they can be sent into a war zone.. If they did not want to risk that, they should not have joined in the first place. If they would have CHOSEN not to join, they would not be in Iraq.
They (safely) assume they could be sent into a war zone for just reasons.


are you in the military or ever were, im assuming not, so with that STFU, if you have, i apolgize, and you have more right than anyone else to say whatever you like....
 

slick230

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Idl ike to add to this, Im in the military, and we have this thing called a"consiecous objector"...if you don't want to fight , cause you think its wrong or something, you don't have to..... i mean it makes you look like shit...but if you really don't wnna be there, you can get out....

but not many people do that, pretty much the slim few who shouldn't be in the miltary anyways....

find me someone in the miltary who is against the war, besides the 2 traitors who ran off to canada...

there are some, but very few, so when someone cricizes the war, and tries to use the "poor troops" as an exmaple, thats just makes me wanna vommit....i went once, ill go again, to server, and becuase i have no problem putting a bullet in someones head who speaks of harm towards america or americans, or has anything to do with terrorism, ANYTHING...i dont care if he was just learning how to write al qeada....

Wow...
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Idl ike to add to this, Im in the military, and we have this thing called a"consiecous objector"...if you don't want to fight , cause you think its wrong or something, you don't have to..... i mean it makes you look like shit...but if you really don't wnna be there, you can get out....

but not many people do that, pretty much the slim few who shouldn't be in the miltary anyways....

find me someone in the miltary who is against the war, besides the 2 traitors who ran off to canada...

there are some, but very few, so when someone cricizes the war, and tries to use the "poor troops" as an exmaple, thats just makes me wanna vommit....i went once, ill go again, to server, and becuase i have no problem putting a bullet in someones head who speaks of harm towards america or americans, or has anything to do with terrorism, ANYTHING...i dont care if he was just learning how to write al qeada....

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Originally posted by: Genx87
I wonder if this lady was so up in arms when Clinton spent 30 million on his innaguration?

I find it a bit hypocritical and baseless for liberals to be complaining about a 40 million dollar pricetag if they cant apply it to their own. She actually said they spent 40 million too much. Does she think inagurations are free?

Well, have you ever known a Democrat or Republican in high office who WASN'T a hypocrite? :) I wouldn't bet 5 cents on that one, LOL.

Jason
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Deptacon


are you in the military or ever were, im assuming not, so with that STFU, if you have, i apolgize, and you have more right than anyone else to say whatever you like....

Glad you're defending his freedom of speech. :roll:
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Deptacon


are you in the military or ever were, im assuming not, so with that STFU, if you have, i apolgize, and you have more right than anyone else to say whatever you like....

Glad you're defending his freedom of speech. :roll:


I just dont like when peoploe imply anything about the military when they havent spent a day in, cause they know nothing about.....
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Deptacon


are you in the military or ever were, im assuming not, so with that STFU, if you have, i apolgize, and you have more right than anyone else to say whatever you like....

Glad you're defending his freedom of speech. :roll:


I just dont like when peoploe imply anything about the military when they havent spent a day in, cause they know nothing about.....


I re-read the comments. What exactly was he implying? An unjust war? I think the military has done everything asked and done it well, but I still think the whole fvcking war was unjust and totally uncalled for. Whether troops wanted to go, not go, stay home or blow up Saddam doesn't matter. The reasons we were given were bullshit and new reasons to invade other countries are being implanted in the minds of US citizens already (even in the big party speech by Bush today).

He has has much right to call the Bushshit war UNJUST as I do and the constitution guarantees every right for him to SAY so.
 

Deptacon

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They (safely) assume they could be sent into a war zone for just reasons.

Im refering to that one..... Soldiers don't need just reasons, just orders, that all it takes, there is no politcs involved, just orders to go kick some ass....

non the less.... no WMD's, so what, we freed a lot of people, and they are happy we came, your always gonna have the 1% that still wanna blow themselves up for whatever, nothing you can do but keep trying to kill em.... the rest of them are glad we came, and just want thier govt up and running so we can leave....


and if your even more sinister, we created another capitalist democrcy for american businesses to do business with in the next 10 yrs, hence, better economy (locally and globally)


and i don't wanna hear was it worth the lives, becuase when you start talking it down like that, and call it bush vietnam, YOU make it that way, and YOU make it meaningless...



 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Deptacon


are you in the military or ever were, im assuming not, so with that STFU, if you have, i apolgize, and you have more right than anyone else to say whatever you like....

Glad you're defending his freedom of speech. :roll:


I just dont like when peoploe imply anything about the military when they havent spent a day in, cause they know nothing about.....


I re-read the comments. What exactly was he implying? An unjust war? I think the military has done everything asked and done it well, but I still think the whole fvcking war was unjust and totally uncalled for. Whether troops wanted to go, not go, stay home or blow up Saddam doesn't matter. The reasons we were given were bulls and new reasons to invade other countries are being implanted in the minds of US citizens already (even in the big party speech by Bush today).

He has has much right to call the Bushshit war UNJUST as I do and the constitution guarantees every right for him to SAY so.


let me state some facts:
Saddam had meet with Al Qeade personal before
Known terrorist were in Iraq (and still are)
he broke 11 UN resolutions


thats all you need to make a war legit, or called for, or "just" (whatever holy'est than though or perfect term that is suppose to imply) war is never just. war is F up. but crap happens sometimes...

Saddam was a jacked up, mental, lunatic dictator, killed millions, ignored the UN, bribed the french, and actaully made the world think he had WMD's.... on purpose...so he needed to come down, and the world is , and especially the middle east, a safer place with him gone.... and the place will get better...

you don't sit around and wait for something to happen, and then go do something....take some darn initative....

the world was warned after 9/11 not to screw around with aanything terrorist related.... you noticed Old Gneral in Libya knew we weren't bluffing, he is actually complyting with us after 30 yrs! Saddam tried to call a bluff..but we weren;t bluffing....

you know when we have a president who doesn't act, people critcize him, you get one that takes initative, and you jump all over him..
 

Deptacon

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I know everyone has thier opinions, and thats cool, its when people just make dumb uneducated ignorant comments, like, no war for oil, and bush lies, that just ticks me off

bush didn;t lie, he was givin intel and went on it...thwe same intel the french, the germans, the brits, and the russians had.... the intel was wrong...oh HE IS A LIAR, cause he is not a TREE HUGGIN HIPPIE...he is a liar....ok...heheh that was an ignorant low liberal blow.... but...anyways