Fox News, maybe gay friendly, no climate change discussions, still might kill you

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Why hasn’t Shepard Smith come out yet? The affable Fox News anchor has a longtime boyfriend, ranks among Fox’s most senior talent, and lives in New York City. It could be, of course, that he’s just a very private person, or—as the Times argued in October—that public attitudes have changed and nobody cares if a famous figure is gay.

Or it could be that, when Smith tried to come out last year, Fox silenced and punished him.

In the summer of 2013, according to multiple sources with knowledge of their exchange, Shepard Smith approached Fox News president Roger Ailes about publicly coming out. The newly attached anchor was eager, at the time, to finally acknowledge his sexuality. “It’s time,” he told Ailes and other colleagues. “It’s time.”

Instead, Ailes informed Smith that the network’s famously conservative audience would not tolerate a gay news anchor. Ailes’ answer was definitive: Smith could not say he’s gay.

“This came up during contract negotiations,” a Fox insider told Gawker. “Shep wanted to and was ready to come out, and Roger just said no.”

Smith, one of Ailes’s first and most loyal disciples, acquiesced to his boss’s demand, and dropped the matter. But the discussion worried enough Fox executives to prompt Smith’s removal, in September 2013, from the channel’s coveted prime-time lineup. According to a Fox insider with direct knowledge of negotiations, Smith’s desire to come out was a large factor in the dramatic move.

“They tried to play it up as a big promotion,” the insider said. “But everyone knew that Shep was getting demoted. And the coming out thing was a significant part of that.”
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Update:
Shep and Ailes dispute the Gawker piece.
In response to Gawker's report, Ailes and Smith released a joint statement declaring the report "100% false and a complete fabrication." Bill Shine, an executive vice president who Gawker depicted as homophobic, issued a separate statement calling Smith "the gold standard of this profession."

Update 2:
Nope, Fox News Really Did Shove Shepard Smith Back Into the Closet


Scientific American editor Michael Moyer went on Fox & Friends this morning to discuss “Tech trends for the next decade and beyond,” which producers told him did not, under any circumstances, involve certain issues:

Fox & Friends producer wanted to talk about future trends. I said #1 will be impacts of climate change. I was told to pick something else.

— Michael Moyer (@mmoyr) April 30, 2014
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Bonus: How listening to Fox News almost killed this man:
Angstadt was in bad condition prior to his March 31 valve-replacement surgery. “I was going to die,” he told this blog. “I was preparing myself. I knew I was pretty sick since last October.” Yet he still resisted the attempts of friend Bob Leinhauser to get him enrolled in Obamacare. “I had to back him into a corner,” says Leinhauser, who worked for 27 years for Montgomery County’s fire and rescue department. He told Angstadt, “You’re what we call a cardiac cripple.”

After signing up for insurance via the Obamacare exchange, Angstadt pays $26.11 for the Highmark Blue Cross silver PPO plan, as reported by the Inquirer. The policy took effect just before Angstadt’s surgery.

But what accounts for Angstadt’s resistance to Obamacare in the first place? He says that he “leans” Republican and essentially listened to what the GOP had to say about Obamacare, and not so much to what the Democrats had to say. As for his media diet, Anstadt says he goes online for some of his news, but when it comes to television, “Fox News, of course, and that’s basically what I watch on TV,” in addition to local news, he says. “I like some of those radicals” on Fox News, he says. “I like O’Reilly.”

Asked if Fox News had molded his view of Obamacare, Angstadt responded, “Yeah, yeah — they get people fired up. You know what, I really do have a different outlook on it. It’s really wrong that people are making it into a political thing. To me, it is a life-and-death thing.” Of Obamacare’s namesake, Angstadt says, “I didn’t care for Obama. I can’t say nothing bad about him now because it was his plan that probably saved my life.”
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Keep your hands and feet inside the bubble at all times.
 
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Jaskalas

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Fox News will take a big hit if they messed with Shep. I miss his evening show.
 

Newell Steamer

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Asked if Fox News had molded his view of Obamacare, Angstadt responded, “Yeah, yeah — they get people fired up. You know what, I really do have a different outlook on it. It’s really wrong that people are making it into a political thing. To me, it is a life-and-death thing.” Of Obamacare’s namesake, Angstadt says, “I didn’t care for Obama. I can’t say nothing bad about him now because it was his plan that probably saved my life.”

Fox is killing it's own viewers - makes perfect sense.
 

z1ggy

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I'm not surprised really. Think of all the pissed off rednecks and old people!!!!
 

Greenman

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Stupid.
Stupid that anyone on earth cares who the fellow has sex with.
Stupid that Fox wants him to keep quiet about it.
Stupid that the fellow thinks he needs to announce his sexual proclivities.

Off topic: What is the point of "coming out"? I understand that it used to be a moral stand, an announcement that you wouldn't be judged for your sexual preference, but today it has no more meaning than announcing that you don't believe that fifth dentist and you're switching to crest anyway.
 

Subyman

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Can't wait to tell my grandma shep is gay. Or maybe I'll keep it to myself and every time she says how great of a man Shep is, I can smile inside knowing she would hate him if only she knew...
 

JManInPhoenix

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I watch relatively little cable news on tv - maybe an hour total every week between CNN, Fox & MSNBC. Shepard Smith & Megan Kelly are about the only two news people I watch on fox.
 

Newell Steamer

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Off topic: What is the point of "coming out"? I understand that it used to be a moral stand, an announcement that you wouldn't be judged for your sexual preference, but today it has no more meaning than announcing that you don't believe that fifth dentist and you're switching to crest anyway.

Because stating you have interest in the same sex still gets you raised eye brows,.. or murdered.

Celebs like this help move us to the meaningless society you noted; we aren't there yet.
 

crashtestdummy

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Stupid.
Stupid that anyone on earth cares who the fellow has sex with.
Stupid that Fox wants him to keep quiet about it.
Stupid that the fellow thinks he needs to announce his sexual proclivities.

Off topic: What is the point of "coming out"? I understand that it used to be a moral stand, an announcement that you wouldn't be judged for your sexual preference, but today it has no more meaning than announcing that you don't believe that fifth dentist and you're switching to crest anyway.

You perhaps might have a case if Fox didn't want him to keep quiet on it. The mere fact that anyone would oppose him over this means that coming out still has meaning.

For what it's worth, I'm sure he wouldn't mind at all if Fox asked that he only "come out" the way that most straight public figures "come out". That is, show up at some public event with your significant other, or casually mention his boyfriend in on-air small talk. AFAIK, he's never done felt able to do either.
 

MtnMan

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People still watch Faux Propaganda video tabloid. That's disturbing
 

hal2kilo

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The only anchor of that network that seemed to have any integrity towards the profession of journalism. I guess if someone pays you somewhere in the neighborhood of .5 mil to 1.5 mil a year, you can shuck your principles out the door.
 
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kia75

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Stupid.
Stupid that anyone on earth cares who the fellow has sex with.
Stupid that Fox wants him to keep quiet about it.
Stupid that the fellow thinks he needs to announce his sexual proclivities.

Off topic: What is the point of "coming out"? I understand that it used to be a moral stand, an announcement that you wouldn't be judged for your sexual preference, but today it has no more meaning than announcing that you don't believe that fifth dentist and you're switching to crest anyway.

A big point about coming out is to normalize behavior. When you've never known a single gay person it's easy to believe that all gay people are sickos, weirdos, deviants, and pedophiles trying to have sex with everybody. When you realize that your dentist is gay and he's a cool person, that your uncle is gay and and a good guy, that your teacher is gay and he's always acted appropriately around you then the fear-mongering that gay people will lead to the downfall of society seems silly.
 
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Honestly I am very gay friendly and I don't think there is any need for a news caster to mention if they are gay or straight. Its not relevant to the news. Now its a different discussion if they are told not to be seen on dates or out in public with their spouse.
 

werepossum

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The only anchor of that network that seemed to have any integrity towards the profession of journalism. I guess if someone pays you somewhere in the neighborhood of .5 mil to 1.5 mil a year, you can shuck your principles out the door.
Who - in yet another of those amazing coincidences - also happens to be the only liberal anchor.

From the OP's "article":

Shine tells TVNewser that he did not attend the picnic, but otherwise did not dispute Gawker’s account of his reaction. The sentence has been updated to reflect that Shine negatively reacted after learning that Smith brought his boyfriend to the Independence Day picnic.
Of course, some great Gawker reportage about Shine's evil reaction to Shep showing up with his gay lover at a picnic can't be wasted just because Shine wasn't actually at the picnic. Cue Dan Rather's "factually false but morally accurate" excuse.
 

Fern

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The only anchor of that network that seemed to have any integrity towards the profession of journalism. I guess if someone pays you somewhere in the neighborhood of .5 mil to 1.5 mil a year, you can shuck your principles out the door.

You forgot Bret Baier.

But then again, those are the only "news anchors" on Fox News. The rest are editorial 'talking head' celebrities that host opinion shows.

It still amazes me that people can't tell the difference between 'news' and editorial type shows.

BTW: MSNBC has no 'news' shows. It's all editorial or prison crap.

Fern
 
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You forgot Bret Baier.

But then again, those are the only "news anchors" on Fox News. The rest are editorial 'talking head' celebrities that host opinion shows.

It still amazes me that people can't tell the difference between 'news' and editorial type shows.

BTW: MSNBC has no 'news' shows. It's all editorial or prison crap.

Fern

Yet many leftists still consider it news. It is just propaganda and the fact they hire race baiters is disturbing.