Fox News labels Republican Mike Lee a traitor after his honest assessment of the Iran briefing

HomerJS

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This is what happens when you dare disagree with Dear Leader. State TV...cough...cough Fox News...cough labels you a traitor to the country.

Lee's assessment

Now let the beatings begin

BTW - In the briefing Trump administration told Senators they should not debate any of this, just cow-tow to Trump. Lou Dobbs wasn't the only one to trash Mike Lee. Laura Ingraham sang from the same score. That network has been and continues to be a scourge on this country
 

[DHT]Osiris

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This is what happens when you dare disagree with Dear Leader. State TV...cough...cough Fox News...cough labels you a traitor to the country.

Lee's assessment

Now let the beatings begin

BTW - In the briefing Trump administration told Senators they should not debate any of this, just cow-tow to Trump. Lou Dobbs wasn't the only one to trash Mike Lee. Laura Ingraham sang from the same score. That network has been and continues to be a scourge on this country
Honestly this is a good thing, let the cancer eat itself for a while. I'd love the GOP to start turning on each other, excise the Trump supporters, isolate Fox to some Brietbart level of pseudo-survival, and go back to being somewhat relevant.
 

fskimospy

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Earlier this week Lou Dobbs also had this to say, in reference to a majority of people supporting impeachment:

It is a shame that this country which has — is benefitting so much from this president’s leadership does not understand their obligations to the leader who is making it possible for all of us.

Obligations to the leader? We have zero obligations to him. He has obligations to us, not the other way around. Lou Dobbs at this point is acting like a cult member.
 

HomerJS

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Earlier this week Lou Dobbs also had this to say, in reference to a majority of people supporting impeachment:



Obligations to the leader? We have zero obligations to him. He has obligations to us, not the other way around. Lou Dobbs at this point is acting like a cult member.
Obligations to the leader????

What has this country become, fucking North Korea?? Russia?? All the countries Trump admires
 

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Earlier this week Lou Dobbs also had this to say, in reference to a majority of people supporting impeachment:



Obligations to the leader? We have zero obligations to him. He has obligations to us, not the other way around. Lou Dobbs at this point is acting like a cult member.

North Korean propaganda and much Fox News programming are now almost indistinguishable except for the object of their praise.
 

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This is what people who know they are right look like. Insanity is not wanting to face and see your insanity because of self hate. To truly know is to feel, therefore, for the sick of the world, truth is denial, ego rather than humility. Humility is the the state we fear most because we were made to conform by shame. Shame is the first tool of control. Threaten whatever egotistical identification with the good people substitute for real self respect, ones good name as a cult member in this case, Dobbs on Lee in this case, intimidate and scorn. It is fear of that that is our prison and why we have so little self respect. We were all broken this way. We live but we feel something is missing. It is the wholeness that we once had.

"Now don't you dare ever seek to have that again."
 
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fskimospy

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We have great intel we can't show anybody including Congress members who have security clearance and an oversight obligation over intel. Just trust us.

Uh huh.


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This is basically the Trump administration position on this:

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I don't blame him - The speech was terrible. The reasoning in the speech, the uncouth swipe at Obama, the expressions on the guys in the background, the strange emphasis on the characteristics of our missiles, the few slurred words, the confusion of threatening Iran and then (in the next breath!) saying eliminating ISIS is good for them, suggesting maybe we should keep ISIS around (wtf?), just the general Trump clusterfuck word salad was present and even some Republicans are tired of it, especially when the speech has to do with possibly starting a fucking war.

In that speech Trump appeared very out of breath, having to breath heavy while talking. Add to this his staff (generals and the VP) came in first then seemed to look around wondering where Trump was, like Trump was with them when they started but somehow got lost along the way. I know he sounds subdued like that because he was reading a teleprompter and not extemporizing as he usually does. All his "moderate and rational" speeches seem to have been written by others and as such, they give him no joy. Trump has always been a sniffer. I thought maybe it was a nervous habit, but he was genuinely out of breath in that speech.

Also who the fuck has been doing his makeup. It's been extra bad lately. Did he get the wrong color? Is he having some skin problem that changed his natural skin color so the makeup doesn't match any more? Or does he have some kind of issue that prevents him from applying better? I mean, he never looked "presentable", but at least he didn't have as obvious blending issues. Man.. he's really hard to look at sometimes. Just looks like a hot pile of garbage. For someone so rich and powerful, you'd think he wouldn't look like...that.
 

fskimospy

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I don't blame him - The speech was terrible. The reasoning in the speech, the uncouth swipe at Obama, the expressions on the guys in the background, the strange emphasis on the characteristics of our missiles, the few slurred words, the confusion of threatening Iran and then (in the next breath!) saying eliminating ISIS is good for them, suggesting maybe we should keep ISIS around (wtf?), just the general Trump clusterfuck word salad was present and even some Republicans are tired of it, especially when the speech has to do with possibly starting a fucking war.

In that speech Trump appeared very out of breath, having to breath heavy while talking. Add to this his staff (generals and the VP) came in first then seemed to look around wondering where Trump was, like Trump was with them when they started but somehow got lost along the way. I know he sounds subdued like that because he was reading a teleprompter and not extemporizing as he usually does. All his "moderate and rational" speeches seem to have been written by others and as such, they give him no joy. Trump has always been a sniffer. I thought maybe it was a nervous habit, but he was genuinely out of breath in that speech.

Also who the fuck has been doing his makeup. It's been extra bad lately. Did he get the wrong color? Is he having some skin problem that changed his natural skin color so the makeup doesn't match any more? Or does he have some kind of issue that prevents him from applying better? I mean, he never looked "presentable", but at least he didn't have as obvious blending issues. Man.. he's really hard to look at sometimes. Just looks like a hot pile of garbage. For someone so rich and powerful, you'd think he wouldn't look like...that.

If anyone here had a family member who talked like he did during that speech I feel like at a minimum there would be some sort of discussion to the effect of 'is grandpa okay?'
 

thraashman

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Ah yes, Lou Dobbs the man who also claimed to a guest that Trump has never once lied to the American people since he's been president and that he never talks about himself. The man is just one of the worst assholes in this nation.
 

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At this point, there is zero to salvage from the GOP.

Honestly, disassemble the GOP. Reform as a new conservative party. And, most importantly, ban all current Republicans who hold a political position from holding any political positions going forward, including lobbying. If they want a government job as a garbage man, police officer or military type, sure - go ahead. But writing laws, participating in congress, running for President, etc. nope.

They are not acting in the interests of the US, in any capacity. They act in the interests of anyone who offers them money or has some sort of blackmail on them. Also, most of them are criminals. It is a party choking on it's own criminal element.

And, election fraud... wow. How did this not get them all arrested?

I mean, just look at the path of destruction the GOP has created; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

This is not the party of Law and Order. This is not the party of morals. And it is certainly not the party of personal responsibility.
 

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Also before the speech, an aide/handler took away the folder at 11 am and came back with a different one 15 minutes later. I'm assuming the original folder contained son Eric's Yogi Bear poster. When KellyAnne realized Donald grabbed the wrong one, there was a zig-zagging relay race across the West Wing between staffers to get the correct folder to Donald in time. Although it hasn't been confirmed

The sniffing - He only does this to this degree when he's clearly reading 'prepared' remarks that he has no idea what the fuck he is about to say and is completely unfamilar with the topic at hand. He doesn't do it quite as bad during his un-scripted bullshit sessions. It isn't really about reading scripted remarks. The sniffles seem to hit when there are events that he's on center stage in situations be clearly isn't comfortable in, which obviously doesn't include his freewheeling sessions where he can make up lies to thousands of supporters who eat up all his bullshit.
 

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Summary:
-Cocaine
-Allergies
-He has a booger
-Cold/sinus
-Adderall
-Anxiety

His pupils are huge as well.

Dude is on something.
 

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Summary:
-Cocaine
-Allergies
-He has a booger
-Cold/sinus
-Adderall
-Anxiety

His pupils are huge as well.

Dude is on something.

Not sure, but didn't FDR's physician gave him cocaine for a cold before his Pearl Harbor speech?
 

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Summary:
-Cocaine
-Allergies
-He has a booger
-Cold/sinus
-Adderall
-Anxiety

His pupils are huge as well.

Dude is on something.

I mean there's also that picture of him in his office with what appears to be a desk drawer piled high with sudafed as well. Like, why would any normal person need box after box of sudafed.
 

hal2kilo

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Earlier this week Lou Dobbs also had this to say, in reference to a majority of people supporting impeachment:



Obligations to the leader? We have zero obligations to him. He has obligations to us, not the other way around. Lou Dobbs at this point is acting like a cult member.
Yea, not exposing sources and methods is what the investigation of the investigation is all about right?
 

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I mean there's also that picture of him in his office with what appears to be a desk drawer piled high with sudafed as well. Like, why would any normal person need box after box of sudafed.
That's Sudafed from England, not the US variety. Someone claimed he crushes it and snorts it like cocaine, that would explain a lot.
 

fskimospy

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That's Sudafed from England, not the US variety. Someone claimed he crushes it and snorts it like cocaine, that would explain a lot.

Yes. I mean there might be some normal explanation for it but it sure seems weird to have that much in your office.