Fox News: Hey, a terrorist lives at this house, here's his address... oh *$*%@#(* someone else lives there now?

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When Blame Knocks on the Wrong Door
Since Fox News wrongly identified a La Habra home as that of a terrorist, its five- member family has faced an angry backlash.

By H.G. Reza, Times Staff Writer


Randy and Ronnell Vorick thought La Habra was about as far away as one could get from terrorism. They were wrong.

For the last 2 1/2 weeks, the lives of the couple and their three children have been plunged into an unsettling routine of drivers shouting profanities, stopping to photograph their house and ? most recently ? spray-painting a slogan on their property.

Their house, a suburban fixer-upper the Voricks bought three years ago, was wrongly identified in a cable news broadcast as the home of a terrorist.

"I'm scared to go to work and leave my kids home. I call them every 30 minutes to make sure they're OK," Randy Vorick said.

"I keep telling myself this can't be happening to me. This can't be happening to my family. But it is. I want our lives to be normal again," he said.

In what Fox News officials concede was a mistake, John Loftus, a former U.S. prosecutor, gave out the address Aug. 7, saying it was the home of a Middle Eastern man, Iyad K. Hilal, who was the leader of a terrorist group with ties to those responsible for the July 7 bombings in London.

Hilal, whom Loftus identified by name during the broadcast, moved out of the house about three years ago. But the consequences were immediate for the Voricks.

Satellite photos of the house and directions to the residence were posted online. The Voricks told police, who arranged for the content to be taken down. Someone even removed the street sign where the Voricks live to provide some protection.

Still, it has not been easy.

A driver yelled a profanity at the family and called them terrorists as they barbecued on their patio Aug. 14. Some drivers have stopped and photographed the house, Randy Vorick said.

Last weekend, someone spray-painted "Terrist" on their home. Police, who have regularly patrolled their house since the day after the broadcast, now station a squad car across the street.

Randy, a restaurant manager, and Ronnell, a manager at a staffing agency, have been married 19 years and met as teenagers when they worked at a local McDonald's.

They grew up in La Habra and bought the house three years ago after Hilal moved out so they could be close to Ronnell Vorick's parents.

La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said the department was "giving special attention to the family to make sure they're safe," but declined to elaborate.

"This thing broke on a Sunday, when we started receiving inquiries from the public about terrorists," he said.

The Voricks said they had made several unsuccessful attempts to contact Fox News and Loftus by telephone and e-mail. They want a public apology and correction.

Both have issued apologies ? Fox in a one-line statement to the Los Angeles Times and Loftus in an e-mail to the family ? after being contacted by the newspaper. The Voricks say they have yet to see or hear a correction.

"John Loftus has been reprimanded for his careless error, and we sincerely apologize to the family," said Fox spokeswoman Irena Brigante.

Loftus also apologized and told The Times last week that "mistakes happen."

"I'm terribly sorry about that. I had no idea. That was the best information we had at the time," he said.

Loftus said he gave out the address to help local police, and insisted that Hilal, a Garden Grove grocery store owner, was a terrorist.

"I thought it might help police in that area now that we have positively identified a terrorist living in [Orange County]," he said.

Cathy Viray, an FBI spokeswoman in Los Angeles, said agents were looking into Loftus' terrorist allegations but stopped short of calling it an investigation.

The Voricks' nightmare began Aug. 7 when they were returning from SeaWorld in San Diego with their daughters, 17 and 5, and son, 14.

"I was driving home and my neighbor called saying that some guy on Fox said a terrorist lives at my house and gave out the address," Randy Vorick said.

The next day, the couple left for a four-day cruise to Santa Catalina Island and Ensenada, leaving their children in the care of a house-sitter and Randy Vorick's brother, all unaware of the growing fallout from Fox's report.

When they returned Aug. 12, Randy Vorick said he had received several e-mails and messages on his cellphone from friends who told him that Loftus had been interviewed on KFI-AM (640) radio and repeated his allegation about a terrorist living in La Habra. The radio station did not broadcast his address.

In addition, the house-sitter said police had stopped by Aug. 8 to check on their safety and were keeping an eye on the house. Randy Vorick said he had e-mailed Fox and Loftus, asking for a public retraction and apology.

He said the apologies that came were too little, too late.

On Monday night, the day after someone spray-painted their house, the Voricks were up all night looking at the street and the cars that drove by.

"I just want a good night's sleep," Randy Vorick said. "I don't know when I'm going to have it."

First Fox News shows a terrorist video on HOW TO MAKE A BOMB and now this? GJ fox news.

I think they should change their slogan to: "Fox News: Your biggest threat to freedom and homeland security"

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EatSpam

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Haha... terrist. Poor family, but I guess if Faux didn't report that, the terrists would win, eh? I hope the family sues Fox for enough money to move to a different neighborhood.
 

sandorski

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Morons! Fox News thought they knew where a Terrorist was and somehow that Terrorist was not picked up by the Government? What exactly did they think this would accomplish?

Morons! The idiots who watched this on Fox and couldn't put 2 + 2 together to figure it out for themselves! These people are little more than the Brown Shirts who in their brainless zeal took action against their supposed "enemies".

Fox better be cutting a cheque in the $millions, not fluffing it off as a simple error.
 

5LiterMustang

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yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!
 

ShadesOfGrey

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"How inconvenent there are other people in the world. They constantly do things to remind of how bad I feel." - moonbeam
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!

Hey, I know--let's call in an anonymous tip with YOUR address and see how YOU like it when the neighbors come by with pitchforks! :roll:

 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Morons! Fox News thought they knew where a Terrorist was and somehow that Terrorist was not picked up by the Government? What exactly did they think this would accomplish?

Morons! The idiots who watched this on Fox and couldn't put 2 + 2 together to figure it out for themselves! These people are little more than the Brown Shirts who in their brainless zeal took action against their supposed "enemies".

Fox better be cutting a cheque in the $millions, not fluffing it off as a simple error.

"Well you see, we just said that there COULD be a potential terrorist there, we NEVER said that there DEFINITELY was a terrorist there. Therefore, we accept no responsibilty to the actions of a few rogue persons not affiliated with FOXNews (R)"

Watch them pull a "PatRobertson" and sweep any responsibility right under the (ever lumpier) rug.
 

5LiterMustang

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Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!

Hey, I know--let's call in an anonymous tip with YOUR address and see how YOU like it when the neighbors come by with pitchforks! :roll:

i never said it didn't suck or it was right, I was just makin ga point to the folks bashin foxnews.
 

raildogg

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they pick on fox news because they perceive it as being conservative. its based on perception

they perceive the NY times to be liberal, and thus on their side. so they never seem to bash it

even though the NY times has some serious issues going on, remember that fraudulent reporter?

anyway, try to be fair, guys
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: raildogg

anyway, try to be fair, guys

So says hannity jr. :roll:

Fauxnews should pay you for the time you spend parroting them and apologising in here.

 

ChaoZ

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"I thought it might help police in that area now that we have positively identified a terrorist living in [Orange County]," he said.

And he simply couldn't just pick up the phone and call them instead?
Oh yea, why didn't they sue?
 

shimsham

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how reckless and stupid is that? even if the guy was still living there, you dont give out his addy on national tv so a lynch mob can descend on them. good way to get an idiot killed when the "terrist" starts firing.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: raildogg
they pick on fox news because they perceive it as being conservative. its based on perception
Most reputable people pick on Fox b/c it's not. Faux News basically carries Bush administration water. I don't know if others made this mistake but I passed a TV in the hospital today with this headline (A New Era). It was a Faux News report talking about the Iraqi Constitution . . . that didn't exist.

they perceive the NY times to be liberal, and thus on their side. so they never seem to bash it
Umm, it suxed pretty bad in the run up to Bush War 2003.

even though the NY times has some serious issues going on, remember that fraudulent reporter?
I guess you mean Judy Miller? Granted, some would argue that being a pigeon for the Bush administration isn't necessarily fraudluent . . . stupid, self-serving, and misleading . . . but not necessarily fraudulent.

 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: shimsham
how reckless and stupid is that? even if the guy was still living there, you dont give out his addy on national tv so a lynch mob can descend on them. good way to get an idiot killed when the "terrist" starts firing.

:thumbsup:

What they did is BEYOND irresponsible (though given who we're talking about, I'd expect it was deliberate)
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: raildogg
they pick on fox news because they perceive it as being conservative. its based on perception

they perceive the NY times to be liberal, and thus on their side. so they never seem to bash it

even though the NY times has some serious issues going on, remember that fraudulent reporter?

anyway, try to be fair, guys

I'm curious, did ANYBODY in this thread (other than you guys) say ANYTHING about other media outlets? I think most of them suck donkey balls, but this particular thread is about Fox News. Are you saying every time a media outlet is the topic of conversation, we need some sort of disclaimer saying that we think all other media outlets are bad too?

Seriously, it's like you guys are 12 years old with the "they do it too!" defense. Don't you think what Fox News did here was wrong and a stupid idea, independent of what other news orgs might or might not have done?
 

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
this speaks volumes about fox's viewers.

Don't you think the same thing would have happened if any other news reporting agency had done the same thing?

I find it interesting that Fox News allowed the address of this family to be displayed, it was very irresponsible of them to do it and they should be fined greatly.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!
Stop apologizing, it makes you look desperate.
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: Laughalot

I find it interesting that Fox News allowed the address of this family to be displayed, it was very irresponsible of them to do it and they should be fined greatly.

An obvious ratings stunt. They were hoping they were right and would get a huge ratings boost from it (when a "terrorist" was captured thanks to their help). Now they all they do is go "OOPS" and pretend like it never happened in the first place.
 

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Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: Laughalot

I find it interesting that Fox News allowed the address of this family to be displayed, it was very irresponsible of them to do it and they should be fined greatly.

An obvious ratings stunt. They were hoping they were right and would get a huge ratings boost from it (when a "terrorist" was captured thanks to their help). Now they all they do is go "OOPS" and pretend like it never happened in the first place.

It sure may be a ratings stunt, but I think this one is going to bite them back harder than anything gained. Just imagine what would have happened if the person mentioned would have still been living there.
 
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!
Stop apologizing, it makes you look desperate.
Yeah, Stop it. It makes you almost look as bad as those in denial who were making apologies for Rathergate. ;)

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!
Stop apologizing, it makes you look desperate.
Yeah, Stop it. It makes you almost look as bad as those in denial who were making apologies for Rathergate. ;)
I assume you're *joking* considering I'm not the one apologizing here. :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang
yup because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, the NY Times, The LA Times, the washington times, the washington post and EVERY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUTRY ARE PERFECT!
Stop apologizing, it makes you look desperate.
Yeah, Stop it. It makes you almost look as bad as those in denial who were making apologies for Rathergate. ;)
I assume you're *joking* considering I'm not the one apologizing here. :laugh:
You're not the only one laughing here either. ;) :laugh:
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
You're not the only one laughing here either. ;) :laugh:
OK, now you're just being cryptic. Are you saying *I* look almost as bad as those apologizing for Rathergate?!?