Fox News fails "Manhood Test" - Sad State of American Masculinity

[UberNeuman]

ah, the new Fox sitcom.... Two Half Men.

 

[trenchfoot]

My Dad was everything I thought a man should be, and I still think he was just that: Protector and Provider par excellence.

 

[soundforbjt]

ah, the new Fox sitcom.... Two Half Men.

Starring: Elisabeth Hasselbeck as Berta...

Steve Doocy as Alan...

And Brian Kilmeade as Jake...

 

[UberNeuman]

Starring: Elisabeth Hasselbeck as Berta...

Steve Doocy as Alan...

And Brian Kilmeade as Jake...

Tonight's whacky episode: Berta gets a forced ultrasound by Dr. Rick Santorum.

 

[justoh]

People claiming to be unable to change a tyre/tire probably have never tried (or are handicapped in some way and lack the strength/mobility to do it). A tie is much more challenging. Neither have anything to do with manhood though, surely.

 

[irishScott]

Tying a tie I'm on the fence, I usually just keep my ties tied unless they need ironing or cleaning, so my need to tie one is rare. I've actually got a nice app that shows step-by-step how to tie several different knots, came in handy at a wedding a few weeks ago.

As for changing a tire, that's something everyone should know regardless of gender. It's really not that difficult, there's also usually instructions in the owners' manual, so there's very little excuse for getting it wrong.

 

[TheSlamma]

I'm okay with this, it creates more blue collar trade and handyman jobs when more and more of the population can't fix anything anymore.

 

[Orignal Earl]

How to repair a leaky copper water line.
Apply neck tie

 

[soundforbjt]

Tonight's whacky episode: Berta gets a forced ultrasound by Dr. Rick Santorum.

Tune in next week as Alan & Jake try to change a tire for a pretty, stranded motorist and hilarity ensues.

 

[dank69]

Manliness is confidence in the face of risk. That's why men are more likely to be leaders: they're generally more willing to make decisions when all the facts aren't available. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not.

This post is pretty psychotic.

 

[Subyman]

Holy crap, you guys can't even define what a man is.

It certainly isn't in necktie capabilities.

Most "manly" tests are juvenile. A man can be defined by how he supports, treats, and protects those in his family and community. Anything else is relatively unimportant. You can learn to tie a necktie and change a tire in a day, you can't learn to be a great man that easily.

 

[smackababy]

It certainly isn't in necktie capabilities.

Most "manly" tests are juvenile. A man can be defined by how he supports, treats, and protects those in his family and community. Anything else is relatively unimportant. You can learn to tie a necktie and change a tire in a day, you can't learn to be a great man that easily.

Nope. A man is merely someone above the age of adolescence who identifies as a member of the male gender.

 

[Moonbeam]

I have to say that I never much thought about what a man is which leads me to speculate about the motivation behind the question. Perhaps the pursuit of such an answer implies a certain insecurity regarding how one measures up to some cultural norm the attainment of which transfers to one the hope one has developed past some insecurity. And since humanity is upside down to reality, one would likely expect that any definitions of manhood that are popular would in fact be a state of mental illness. A man, for example is a cowboy who silently suffers, who conceals his pain and rides on into the sunset and the whole emotionally cut off notion embodied in the word macho, and certainly not the kind of advise that some source of real knowledge like the Bible might suggest, that except as a little child you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

So if I had to ask myself what it is to be a man, I hear these world in my head that I heard somewhere, I consider him a man only, who can honor the wolf and the sheep entrusted in his keeping. That to my mind implies a reference to the holy trinity, the trine principle at the core of existence, the holy affirming, the holy denying, and the holy reconciling, as suggested in alchemical transformation.

The principle, I think, is represented in the story of the man on a journey with a cargo of a wolf a sheep and a cabbage, who has to cross a river that has no bridge, and who can carry only one of the three at a time.

 

[Subyman]

Nope. A man is merely someone above the age of adolescence who identifies as a member of the male gender.

Captain obvious

 

[Atreus21]

This post is pretty psychotic.

How.

 

[emperus]

The joke was initially believing that either of those two guys were men..

 

[feralkid]

Nope. A man is merely someone above the age of adolescence who identifies as a member of the male gender.

That, and a set of testicles.

 

[smackababy]

That, and a set of testicles.

Nope. Testicles are not a requirement.

 

[Atreus21]

Nope. Testicles are not a requirement.

I identify as a member of the dolphin species, personally.

Whether or not I'm a dolphin is really irrelevant.

 

[smackababy]

I identify as a member of the dolphin species, personally.

Whether or not I'm a dolphin is really irrelevant.

Good thing species and gender are the same thing. Man, you sure got me good with that "argument"... Got another great one?

 

[dank69]

How.

Well for starters it implies that women aren't often confident in the face of risk. Add on top equating leadership with a propensity for making decisions when facts aren't available and you have a pretty fucked up post. Just sayin'.

 

[Atreus21]

Well for starters it implies that women aren't often confident in the face of risk.

Not to say they can't be. Just saying that they generally aren't as much. Men are generally less risk-averse than women. Loads of data about occupations back that up.

Add on top equating leadership with a propensity for making decisions when facts aren't available and you have a pretty fucked up post. Just sayin'.

I don't see what's so fucked up about that. That's what leaders have to do. Decisions made with all the facts are easy, and a leader-type personality isn't required.

 

[shortylickens]

Holy crap, you guys can't even define what a man is.

one X, one Y.

 

[DrPizza]

I don't consider myself one of those "here's what a real man is" types, and I can comfortably do both of those things. I don't think they're a good measure of "manliness," but they're not bad skills to possess. It doesn't hurt that they are both super-easy to learn.

People claiming to be unable to change a tyre/tire probably have never tried (or are handicapped in some way and lack the strength/mobility to do it). A tie is much more challenging. Neither have anything to do with manhood though, surely.

Perhaps instead of the "man" label, you could use the "good father" label. A good father would teach his son or daughter how to change a tire, how to use the dipstick to check the oil, etc. It's pretty pathetic that it's become more and more acceptable to be completely ignorant of the most basic skills related to owning an auto.

I cannot comprehend how people are satisfied with their own lack of basic knowledge which leads them to sit on the side of the road for half an hour while they wait for triple-A to come to the rescue for a flat tire.

 

[feralkid]

Nope. Testicles are not a requirement.

Not in your species, perhaps.



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